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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Anaz on July 01, 2003, 02:43:05 pm
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Well...I've recently got through my truespace headaches, and decided to just model in d3d mode...but that's not the point...
The point is, I've modeled a nifty (ish) new corporate civillian ship, a corporation ship, probably like a larger yacht to draw parallels from real life, and it sorely needs detail...I've got the basic shape worked out, and it's around 200 polys...
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/corporate_vessel_1.jpg)
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hey, that's pretty cool. Need more views though, I can't tell if the hull in the middle stays the height, or if it lowers. and get a bottom/back side view too :nod:
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indeed, nice
now, more views, and perhaps some greebles. see styxx thread in the art forum for idea's.
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k, here's a screen cap, some of the greebles are missing because I had to re-build the damn thing after TS crashed (grrr...)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/coporate_vessel_1-2.jpg)
EDIT: img->lvlshot
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Try doing something with the nose, like the sharp end of a Fenris. And try putting some gubbinz on the engine end of it, it looks like there's a large ammount of plain, um, plane.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Try doing something with the nose, like the sharp end of a Fenris. And try putting some gubbinz on the engine end of it, it looks like there's a large ammount of plain, um, plane.
gubbinz?
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Originally posted by Analazon
gubbinz?
Gubbinz = stuff
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*guesses that gubbinz = greebles *
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Gubbins is the greatest word ever to grace the English language.
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the design is nice, it would fit perfectly in my mod (if i knew how to TS lol....), but i got a plethora of textures that would make your ship look civvy enough. if interested PM/IM me.
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Cool. :yes:
As has been said, it needs some details. What about some little stubby fin-type thingies on the sides at the back, to break up that big flat vertical face. A sensor array on the front would be cool, a couple of irregular spiky things like on the bottom of the Orion, or like the front of the Marine cruiser (the Sulaco) from Aliens. That'd look cool as well.
Is it going to have a shuttlebay, and do you plan to release it or is it held back for a specific project? My campaign could use a ship like this, it's pretty much perfect for what I was planning....
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hmm...stubby fin things? elaborate a bit...I don't quite understand what you mean there.
I'm adding some antenaii (or however you spell it) and a few little levels here & there...the middle section inside needs a bit more, but I'm not sure what. I'll try to end it like the front of the fenris, but then people will go "hey, that looks like the front end of a fenris", and I'm not sure I want that :p
Shuttlebay: mebby...now that I think about it, that'd make a nice thing to take up a bit of space on the side or the bottom...:drevil:
EDIT: well, since it is about 1 AM, I should probably pack it in...status updates:
top/side, with new antenae...still need something to go on the sides...
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/corporate_frigate-2.jpg)
and a (dark) bottom image showing some of the shuttle bay (which I'm not completely happy with, but I could use a bit of inspiration...)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/corporate_frigate-3.jpg)
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Yeah pretty cool can we have the model for DOTA ?
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:yes:
nice
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Is this to be a passenger or cargo ship?
If it's a passenger ship you could put some observation decks on it, or some observation domes, ala Coral Vanda
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Is this to be a passenger or cargo ship?
If it's a passenger ship you could put some observation decks on it, or some observation domes, ala Coral Vanda
That would make a great cruiser for my mod. only prob is that there are going to be none of the FS "flat turrets" on my ships only rotateing ones. Anyone here know where I could find a how too on FS ship making for Mya 3D?
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Anaz: Models comming along. :yes: I like the front dealies and all the other stuff.
As for the fighter bay, well it'd basically only hold like a wing of shuttles at the most, right? Well you could put little claws around the fighterbay, or make it look like a star destroyer sort of thing, maybe?
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Gubbins is the greatest word ever to grace the English language.
Don't let Sesq hear you say that...
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Don't let Sesq hear you say that...
Why? Hates it, does he?
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no, he'll get jealous. He's touchy about those kind of things...
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:wtf:
You never seen his sig, Petrarch?
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Probably, I'll hunt it down.
Hmm, I see what you mean.
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That thing looks startlingly similar to the Adropov (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/the158th/dev/narol/stukov-01.jpg) or the Kiev (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/the158th/dev/narol/kiev2.jpg) from the 158th.
If it weren't for the fact that the file is gone from my hard drive, I'd say that mesh was one of the WIP models for the Kiev.
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Originally posted by mikhael
That thing looks startlingly similar to the Adropov (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/the158th/dev/narol/stukov-01.jpg) or the Kiev (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/the158th/dev/narol/kiev2.jpg) from the 158th.
If it weren't for the fact that the file is gone from my hard drive, I'd say that mesh was one of the WIP models for the Kiev.
I'd seen the Kiev, but not the Adropov before...the resemblance IS uncanny...
looking at the Adropov a bit...I think I may re-work the engine(s) a bit...
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Originally posted by mikhael
Not repeated for sanity' sake
heh, you beat me to it, and its Andropov; so :p there
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Wowsers - I really like it, dude. And it does look uncannily like the Andropov... ;)
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alright...I WILL PERFECT THIS DESIGN!
New top (not sure if anything's changed there...)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/corporate_vessel_1-3.jpg)
New bottom, scrapped the shuttle bay, just went for a dock point
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/corporate_vessel_1-4.jpg)
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Originally posted by Analazon
hmm...stubby fin things? elaborate a bit...I don't quite understand what you mean there.
I mean.....stubby fin thingies!
Ummm..... *thinks how to describe it*
Ah! The bridge superstructure - take that, and copy it to the side of the hull, on the big flat face at the back. Mess with the shape a bit, making it thinner. Make the leading edge perpendicular to the hull, but have the trailing edge sweep forward at a fairly sharp angle.
Hmm, that's not very clear, is it?
Draw a square. Then draw a straight line from one corner to the middle of one of the opposite sides. Take away the resultant right-angled triangle, and you're left with the sort of shape I'm trying to describe. Stick that on the side, with the angled edge at the back. This leaves you with a Stubby Fin Thingy™.
:mad: This isn't very good, is it?
Ah hell. You're a smart guy, you'll figure it out...:nervous:
EDIT: Oops. Spent too long trying to describe what I was thinking. I like those engines! Shame about the shuttlebay though - what about putting it a bit further forward, or opening out of the front of that dockpoint structure?
/EDIT
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:yes:
That looks perfect to me, I can't see how you can improve on it.
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At first, it reminded me of the NAGGEROK, from Homeworld:Cataclysm.
Nice model!:yes:
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Originally posted by Raptor
At first, it reminded me of the NAGGEROK, from Homeworld:Cataclysm.
Nice model!:yes:
ahh! Another person telling me it reminded me of a ship I've never seen before!!!
Pyro, what I wasn't sure about was where you wanted me to put them...I've got the general concept of stubby fins ;)
As for the shuttlebay...this thing isn't that big...sheesh, that'd put it at about destroyer size...
and Petrarch, thanks :D
now to go bug deep_eyes about textures...
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Originally posted by Raptor
At first, it reminded me of the NAGGEROK, from Homeworld:Cataclysm.
I suppose it does. A bit.
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can anyone put up a picture of said NAGGEROK, as I seem to be unable to find one?
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Originally posted by Raptor
At first, it reminded me of the NAGGEROK, from Homeworld:Cataclysm.
And my theory about everything resembling something from Homeworld for someone is once more proved correct :D
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Just proves how universal Relic made their ships.
I'll look for a shot of the Naggarok.
EDIT: WHAM!
(http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/beast/naggarok1.gif)
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You need to alter the main hull a little more so it doesn't look so plain and installation-like.
Otherwise, it's neato.
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Just proves how universal Relic made their ships.
Or how willing people are to squint when they look at homeworld :) Quite often (as appears to be the case this time)the ship has only a passing resemblance to the one it's being compared to.
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That's true, but still, even a passing resemblance is a good sign.
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um...bump...
yeah, I've started texturing this beast (well, mostly textured it, then forgot about it for 3 weeks... :nervous: ). Anyhow, here's the results. Thanks to deep_eyes for the textures and reminding me that I did texture the ship :D
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/corporate_vessel_1-textured1.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/corporate_vessel_1-textured2.jpg)
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F*** me, that's good! :eek:
I want this now - get it finished quick!
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You want everything... :p
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And I hope you don't mind an artist's reconception of the design? ;)
(http://quantium40.port5.com/images/corporate_vessel_1_mk2.jpg)
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
You want everything... :p
True. :nod: (I can't do anything for ****, so I need to scrounge off people with talent!)
BTW, Analazon: how big is this thing again? I'm guessing sorta large cruiser-size...
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Kewl to the textures, and another kewl for that sketch! ;)
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boink! Re-doing the textures as per suggestions on #nodewar on sorcerynet ( :thepimp: )
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/analazon/corporate_vessel_1-textured3.jpg)
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:yes: to the solar panel retexes
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I was showing this (awesome) ship to someone... and they said that "it looks like a metal penis with 6 fingers about to grab around it, and it's cumming blue" ....... :wtf: + :lol: = :rolleyes: :lol:
edit: that ship should be a military ship... its cool enough to be one. Those blue solar panel bits could provide AWACS support...
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mmmm
if it's civvy some more windows are needed, don't like the blue panels (make a custome texture with the borders), don't like the window texture of the bridge in the middle, the back is too monothone. nice design btw
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Charmande: I will never look at the ship the same way again. Smack that friend of yours for poisioning my mind :p
Karma: Solar panel textures: I'd love to, but I can't make textures worth ****. I also couldn't think of any other place to put windows as (IMO) they look very bad on sharp angles, and most of the other space is taken up by sharp angles. I may replace the texture on the "bridge" with some windows. Also, there is a string of windows running down the side of the central area. And monothone? Is that a spelling error, or have I missed something?
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even if you can't draw new maps, making patchworks can be done by evryone, so what's the problem?
find a map -fs2 or internet- you can use to make the borders and maybe some lines to make a grid, open paintbrush, photoshop or whatever and do it. The point is how you imagine it, and then invent a way to do it.
Windows can easily be placed on the nose and the rear angle, just modify your texture (again, a patchwork will work fine if you can't draw by yourself) and if you have problems with uvmapping use Lithunwrap
and with monothone I just mean that it simply is a very basic texture just repeated to cover oll the polys, some texture variations, mech elements, other stuff, will improove a lot the whole thing
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Originally posted by KARMA
..and with monothone I just mean that it simply is a very basic texture just repeated to cover oll the polys...
Monotone, not monothone. :)
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doh':)
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Oooo! preaty!:nod:
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Very cool! :yes:
But what gun and turrets will it have? Slash beams?
Maybe shielding (being a civilien ship). :p
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I don't think he was going to arm it, it being a civilian ship and all...
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It shouldn't have any serious firepower - at most, a couple of crappy little point-defence turrets. Say they're for shooting down asteroids or scaring off pirates or something.