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Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Solid Snake on July 03, 2003, 01:28:07 pm
um yea so deep_eyes told me to get some opinions here so here is my version...  its not in pof, but if someone wants to convert it from ms3d that would be fine with me. 1316 polys. 2 512x512 texture maps.  the texture probably need some tweeking...

(http://www.geocities.com/rakshasa_snake/terranbc_1.txt)

(http://www.geocities.com/rakshasa_snake/terranbc_2.txt)

(http://www.geocities.com/rakshasa_snake/terranbc_3.txt)
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Knight Templar on July 03, 2003, 01:51:22 pm
Woa, i would convert it if I knew how. :yes:
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: diamondgeezer on July 03, 2003, 02:14:12 pm
I'm no StarCraftsman, but that's one hella nice (and scary) looking boat
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: KARMA on July 03, 2003, 02:44:34 pm
you are missing the yamato cannon, but nice work, with some little improovable points
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: karajorma on July 03, 2003, 03:10:35 pm
That's pretty damn good :)
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: aldo_14 on July 03, 2003, 03:58:54 pm
Looks very nice, but the textures need more detail IMO...at the mo it just looks like a set of lines with embossing applied.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Nico on July 03, 2003, 04:01:32 pm
1316 polys? I suspect intersecting polys, no?
ANyway, looks darn cool, plus about the Yamato gun, well, battlecruisers don't come with it , they're just an option ;)
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: TopAce on July 03, 2003, 04:33:02 pm
What's the problem with the textures? They're fine. The Yamato is otherwise coming from a large hole on the nose of the ship. I guess it has not only 2 turrets + the Yamato like in Starcraft. How long is it? It's a cruiser size(BattleCRUISER, not?) or a destroyer(BattleDESTROYER would be a ship which destroys the battle :))?

I think the Yamato could be done with minimal knowledge of TBL data editing(which a modelmaker must have). Or you can just give it a BFGreen instead of it.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Nico on July 03, 2003, 04:36:38 pm
the actual size, I've never read it anywhere, but battleships are gigantic: in some cutscene, you see one next to a protoss carrier, they're about the same size. And on some Protoss loading screen, you see a carrier over a very big protoss base, and the carrier is still bigger.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: TopAce on July 03, 2003, 04:38:55 pm
Yeah, I saw the Gantrithor(Tassadar's Carrier) as it went into the overmind, and Mutalisks could fly into it. As this is not a forum of StarCraft, I would say only this.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: KARMA on July 03, 2003, 04:47:38 pm
i remember a scene with a small terran ship destroyed by a giant ship (protoss carrier?can't remember), and there was probably another with duke's battlecruiser being hitted, from those scenes it should be possible to argue the approximate size...
and...
what's the fun with a terran battlecruiser w/o yamato cannon?:D
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: TopAce on July 03, 2003, 04:53:05 pm
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Originally posted by KARMA
..what's the fun with a terran battlecruiser w/o yamato cannon?:D


Nothing, at most that you don't have to fear to fly right directly into the blast, and it won't target you.

Really! If somebody considered doing a Yamato gun either by table editing either by replacing with a simple beam, wouldn't it be a stupid think that it could target fighters like in the Starcraft game? I think yes, it is an anti-large things gun.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: TrashMan on July 03, 2003, 05:25:07 pm
You do get around Solid Snake, don't you?
Haven't I seen you at the Armada Fleet Command forums?
ST:Armada2 to be exact?:D
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Solid Snake on July 03, 2003, 05:51:00 pm
according to the cgi renders ive based that off i havent seen any signs the yamato gun is accually seen.  the weapon must be stuck inbetween the nose slot.

yea i do get around.  im usually floating around sgn.  lightbringer trashMan? are u Lord Anubis?  he calls himself that.

intersecting polys huh?  such tactics are necessary so achieve a low poly count.  i woudl have prefered to not have done that, but otherwise i coudl add another 400 polys on. but i dont want that.

ah.. yea the texture is 100% handrawn. so... i dont know what to tell ya.

thanks for the replies. :D
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: KARMA on July 03, 2003, 06:16:59 pm
intersections usually generate a lot of z-buffer errors, and in freespace they are expecially weird.
i'm sorry but if you want it in freespace you will proably have to redo the mesh.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Solid Snake on July 03, 2003, 08:03:54 pm
wasent originaly for freespace so no biggy.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Knight Templar on July 03, 2003, 11:23:11 pm
*wonders what happened to the Armada - Freespace mod*
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Solid Snake on July 03, 2003, 11:44:49 pm
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
*wonders what happened to the Armada - Freespace mod*


sgn's Stalker took over that.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: J.F.K. on July 04, 2003, 04:11:10 am
W00t, I love StarCraft, and that model's pretty fine! Feels like it needs a few more highlights on the textures, it all looks kinda monotone right now.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: KARMA on July 04, 2003, 05:14:40 am
the model can be loaded in fs2, it simply will look bad, with weird clippings around the intersections
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Post by: TopAce on July 04, 2003, 05:34:52 am
One thing that can make this battlecruiser bad looking is small turrets on its surface. We get used to its in-game looking much.
I have basic knowledge of SC engine, a unit can only fire from one point, with different weapon types, it is the most visible at the Battlecruiser, it fires all of its three guns from one point on the nose ....
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: TrashMan on July 04, 2003, 07:28:06 am
No, I'm not Lord Anubis...

On any forums I'm TrashMan..
And if that name's taken, then I'm either Lord Ellderon or Phoenix...
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: Skaarj on July 07, 2003, 02:22:30 pm
Great model, some one pls get that in FS2, Starcraft has to be my all time fav RTS game although WC3 frozen throne is no1 amazing cutscenes, but that is the best model i've seen for the battlecruiser:nod:
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Post by: Thorn on July 08, 2003, 01:40:08 pm
Thats what I've been meaning to model with Lightwave (broadcast quality type model, not FS quality) nice mesh though... I think the textures could use some work too...
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: beatspete on July 08, 2003, 04:20:04 pm
= teh sweetness.

I think it needs some windows/lights at the front.  IIRC then you can see them in the intro for brood war.

The Yamoto could be tabled as a giant Terran Turret. It traveled as a fast pulse, not a linear beam.  Though it did have a warm up time - i dont know how to achieve that. The Lucifer's arm like turrets, on the top and bottom, would be most like the guns pictured for the BC in the little weapons display at the bottom of the starcraft interface.

As for scale in freespace? Well the Dragoons were ~8 times the size of a man.  The Nexus was about 4 times the size of the dragoons - on the game display.  Before a briefing, you see a Protoss carrier above a protoss village - about 20 - 25 times longer than the nexus. So about 1km long? Frigate sized.
Title: StarCraft Battlecruiser
Post by: TopAce on July 08, 2003, 04:49:41 pm
1 km appears differently in space and in the Atmosphere. Hard thing. I estimate a Battlecrtuiser at about 1.5 and 2 kilometers. Like a destroyer. In SPACE!