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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on July 09, 2003, 08:42:45 am
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http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/sandwich/lab.avi
'Nuff said. :D
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Was that the FS1 shield test? Nice going!
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we've covered this already i believe, the converter
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Very good work Sandwich. Are you planning to convert the whole FS2 set for HotU?
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Originally posted by Stealth
we've covered this already i believe, the converter
What converter? :D
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YES!!!
excuse my happyness, but i am sick and tired of using these ripped versions of FS and FS2.
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I have but one word.
HALLFIGHT.
:D
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
I have but one word.
HALLFIGHT.
:D
Soon, my pretties. As soon as I can free up some HDD space... that 24mb MVE took up over 500Mb as an AVI before I compressed it with DivX. ;)
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Well, I just "magically" got about 100 gigs of free space.
*grumble*
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:eek: :eek:
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Looks cool :cool:
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Woah.
So... the MVE format has been cracked, then?
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Woah.
So... the MVE format has been cracked, then?
Yeah... or at least, the FS1 MVE format has. I haven't tested it on FS2 MVE's - don't know if they're different - but I'll be able to test it in about 36 hours, after I get my FS2 CDs back. :)
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Nice! Now to put them up with a SCP build on HOTU. :D
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sweet.........we could sell tickets;)
how can i do this myself? do i need a converter?
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Excellent... :yes:
I think I remember reading somewhere that the FS and Descent games all use the same MVE format, so it probably should work with FS2 as well.
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[counts hours spend downloading, recording, compressing, and editing movies]
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SMASH!
Alls I can say, this better turn out the version I tried that ran like crap on FS2 movies.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
[counts hours spend downloading, recording, compressing, and editing movies]
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SMASH!
Alls I can say, this better turn out the version I tried that ran like crap on FS2 movies.
Yeah, I know dude - I feel your pain. I almost (not quite, but almost) feel guilty. ;)
And I used the special Freespace build of the MVE2AVI converter.
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Hallfight.avi (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/hallfight.avi):devil:
Warning... 22Mb ;) And don't complain, it's better than the 1.52 Gb it started off as. :nod:
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I wonder what will happen then if I flip the MVE directive in the FS1/FS2 Linux Makefile to "true" and recompiled...
*runs off to test*
(Good thing I made my /home partition 80Gb...)
Update: Both FS1 and FS2 compile alright but placing the movies in the same directory as the .vp files etc doesn't do anything. I'm not quite sure what that means yet...
How far removed is the MVE format in FS from that used in Descent 2?
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didn't we already find a good MVE to AVI converter?
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Stealth: no. There was an MVE2AVI program people knew about, but it only worked on other kinds of Interplay MVEs, not FS ones.
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you guys are gods and i praise you
*worships sandwich's feet*
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Originally posted by Sheepy
*worships sandwich's feet*
What did they do?
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and besides, i'd bet they'd smell:p
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but they taste nice :D
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD
Update: Both FS1 and FS2 compile alright but placing the movies in the same directory as the .vp files etc doesn't do anything. I'm not quite sure what that means yet...
It means the MVE codec was stripped from the released source code.
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Hallfight.avi (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/hallfight.avi):devil:
Warning... 22Mb ;) And don't complain, it's better than the 1.52 Gb it started off as. :nod:
HOLY **** i want more of these COOL movies !!!
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
It means the MVE codec was stripped from the released source code.
I thought about that but I wouldn't have expected the code to compile properly in that situation if the code just wasn't there. It could be that there's some code masking where the MVE code should be and allowing it to compile regardless but then that would defeat the purpose of having the MVE directive in the Makefile. The other alternative is that the code (or something like it, like the MVE code used in D2X, whose movies work perfectly in Linux, even with subtitles, being hacked that extra mile to work with FS movies) is there and it's compiling but I'm doing something wrong in the placement of the actual movie files and as a result they're not working. I admit, the former is the most likely but I don't understand why they'd add an MVE directive for something that doesn't work and is probably never going to work.
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If your taking request, could some one do the intro to FS1 cause i am yet to see it :(
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Originally posted by FreeTerran
HOLY **** i want more of these COOL movies !!!
Did you never play Freespace 1?
And Admiral LSD, I'm not even pretending to understand what you posted - it's faar too late for that - but I just want to clarify that the MVE codec/format is the touchy thing with Interplay, not the FS1/2 movies themselves. So as long as no one gets any bright ideas about including MVE2AVI in the SCP, we should be fine converting the movies to AVI and playing them in-game with calls to AVI playing functions. :)
EDIT: Sheepy, I'll get right on it. :)
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thank yous :D infact i have never seen any of the movies (save the 2 here) so if you would be so kind *wink wink nudge nudge* :D
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Ooh! I know! Why don't we include MVE2AVI in the SCP?
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Sounds like a bright idea that!
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Originally posted by Sandwich
the MVE codec/format is the touchy thing with Interplay, not the FS1/2 movies themselves
It's the same for Descent 2 though, isn't it? Any third party program that decodes the D2 movies would be just as illegal as MVE2AVI, MVEEXTRACT etc then, right?
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Originally posted by Sheepy
If your taking request, could some one do the intro to FS1 cause i am yet to see it :(
I'll see about doing it. :)
Originally posted by Admiral LSD
It's the same for Descent 2 though, isn't it? Any third party program that decodes the D2 movies would be just as illegal as MVE2AVI, MVEEXTRACT etc then, right?
Then why do I have both of those? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Then why do I have both of those? :rolleyes:
Because you aquired them under the counter from people/places that still had them. Interplay issued Descent Network with a "cease and desist" letter and they haven't carried it since AFAIK.
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Yeah... but there was a russian site... (the one with the pic of the golgotha as it's background) that had mveextract up until a few somethings ago.
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Interplay has lost all creditability :nod: so why should they be insistent on anything related to the games at all whether they hold rights or not - Volition on the other hand is different and I think they are the only ones who have a say..anyhow interplay to caught up in fixing themselves ...:lol:
great work on the avis :yes: :D
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for thouse of you, who have not played FS1 (seen the cutsceenes) have a new set of undies redy for yoiu, for you shall **** thine pants
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Originally posted by Max
so why should they be insistent on anything related to the games at all whether they hold rights or not
Umm... let me take a wild guess here and say because they can complain to Gamespy about us being a warez site and shut our asses down? Yeah, that seems to fit. Unless you're planning on hosting a few gigs of files and enough bandwidth to support the incursion of thousands of parasites a day, I really don't recommend you consider anything to honk off Gamespy too greatly. It's fun when you're not a dependent (like me), but they've got short tempers (which I can attest to) and are rather vital to the community's proper operation (which the admins can, if they ever bother to show up).
As it is, we don't do ****, promote a game so old even in the most perverse suit's mind there's no way for them to sell it or anything, and take up an obscene amount of space. No point in HLP making a worse tenant of itself than it already is. Independent satellites and private operations running under the radar on the forums, on the other hand... bwahaha.
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Ok, let's do this. someone put these in chronological order:
Intro
Ancients 1
Lab
Ancients 2
Command Breifing
Ancients 3
Hallfight
Ancients 4
Ancients 5
EndGame
We release them in chronological order. I'm doing Intro this moment, so wait for it. Try to release them at a good balance of quality and filesize - usually around a 700-900 bitrate in DivX 5.0x is fine; I'm trying our 2-pass encoding ATM to see how it looks. Will post more in a sec.
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Ok, the quality/size balance at 2-pass is IMHO the best, 950 bitrate. I got a ~19Mb file from Intro. Uploading now.
Will be finished in 45 minutes from this post time. If you try and download before that time, you're an idiot. ;)
http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/sandwich/intro.avi
EDIT: Psst - it's finished! ;)
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Once again i love you Mr. Edible Man, In a manly kind of friend way ….. Grrrrrrr! :nervous: ;)
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ok, i'll just say "thank you very much" and leave the rest to that piece of wool there...........
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD
Update: Both FS1 and FS2 compile alright but placing the movies in the same directory as the .vp files etc doesn't do anything. I'm not quite sure what that means yet...
I think it mean you need to change the movie.tbl (99% sure that's that it's called) it has the listings of all the movies in the game. Then you may need to change the missions too.
[EDIT]POST 1002!
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok, the quality/size balance at 2-pass is IMHO the best, 950 bitrate. I got a ~19Mb file from Intro. Uploading now.
Will be finished in 45 minutes from this post time. If you try and download before that time, you're an idiot. ;)
http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/sandwich/intro.avi
EDIT: Psst - it's finished! ;)
now there's an idea.. anyone ever thought to reskin an apollo, like Lt ash's?
and nice job man...
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Ok, the quality/size balance at 2-pass is IMHO the best, 950 bitrate. I got a ~19Mb file from Intro. Uploading now.
Will be finished in 45 minutes from this post time. If you try and download before that time, you're an idiot. ;)
http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/sandwich/intro.avi
EDIT: Psst - it's finished! ;)
*phew* I'm glad you did it... When I tried to convert from the 1.8G one down, it would freeze video when Lucy is shown exitting subspace from above... *hopes he didn't ruin the cutscene for anyone*
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Did you never play Freespace 1?
Nope :( i only have fs2
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Originally posted by FreeTerran
Nope :( i only have fs2
Well, IIRC you can d/l the port and play the fs1 and silent threat campaign on fs2 ;)
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Yes but there are not the cutsences included :sigh:
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Originally posted by FreeTerran
Yes but there are not the cutsences included :sigh:
Well, you can always play them after you finish certain missions once they are converted. Someone just needs to list when they play ;)
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Well thx for help Tiara
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I thought SCP might of had some support for playing the exes generated by the MVE extractor, actually.... I remeber mentioning it to a coder on the SCP (name removed to prevent him being bugged about it), and it worked fine - the only issue was the legality of including it in the code.
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Screw Jesus! Sandwich's the real god!
*has never seen FS1 movies*
*is dying of happiness*
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my new fs2 open build now plays intro.avi instead of intro.mve. so just put both in the fs2 dir and play away.
be sure to set the -dshowvid command line flag
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Originally posted by Stunaep
Screw Jesus! Sandwich's the real god!
*ahem* :doubt: :no: :blah:
Diety confusion aside, can someone post a list of all the MVEs in FS1, in order? Thanks.
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Stupid Codecs......
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Originally posted by Stunaep
Screw Jesus! Sandwich's the real god!
Truly the wrong thing to say. Especially to Sandwich...
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Truly the wrong thing to say. Especially to Sandwich...
I agree.
*"borrow's" Tiara's axe*
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Sorry. I got carried away. SHouldn\t really have said that.
*goes back to watching Hallfight for the upteenth time*
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This is amazing. Keep making these steps, guys; continue opening FreeSpace up.
Originally posted by Sandwich
*ahem* :doubt: :no: :blah:
Diety confusion aside, can someone post a list of all the MVEs in FS1, in order? Thanks.
Do you mean deity? In that case, I agree. :nod:
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Originally posted by J.F.K.
This is amazing. Keep making these steps, guys; continue opening FreeSpace up.
Do you mean deity? In that case, I agree. :nod:
Oops... ;)
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Oops... ;)
Now that's something you don't see everyday.
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sooo uh......
what do i need if i want to do this myself eh?
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yes... I cant download this things (no way to get em home) and I have space to burn....
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Originally posted by Sandwich
*ahem* :doubt: :no: :blah:
Diety confusion aside, can someone post a list of all the MVEs in FS1, in order? Thanks.
here ya go old friend
intro
ancients1
lab
commandbrief
ancients2
ancients3
hallfight
ancients4
ancients5
endgame
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Originally posted by Roy fokker
here ya go old friend
intro
ancients1
lab
commandbrief
ancients2
ancients3
hallfight
ancients4
ancients5
endgame
Thanks, dude. :) Now to get back home. ;)
And I used the Freespace version of MVE2AVI (I'm not giving out the link on purpose, just to be safe), VirtualDub, DivX 5.0x codec, and plenty of HDD space.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Thanks, dude. :) Now to get back home. ;)
And I used the Freespace version of MVE2AVI (I'm not giving out the link on purpose, just to be safe), VirtualDub, DivX 5.0x codec, and plenty of HDD space.
I don't see the logic in not giving it out..You are going to convert the vids and put them up for download right? So then whats the point of not giving out the actual converter? Theres nothing more to convert once all the movies are publicly available
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I'll consult with the rest of the staff if they think it might pose a problem, but trust me, it's really, REALLY easy to find using Google. *ahem* :D
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Ah; you found the same one I did, then. In that case, I don't think it will work for FS2 files, sadly...
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Ah; you found the same one I did, then. In that case, I don't think it will work for FS2 files, sadly...
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: What are you on??
EDIT: Oh, wait - do you mean it worked for FS1 files, but not FS2?
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Ah; you found the same one I did, then. In that case, I don't think it will work for FS2 files, sadly...
It worked for me. Now I have a 1.72GB avi of the colossus movie.
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Doesn't FS1 have a cutscene where, if you fail the final mission, you get to watch Earth being annihalated? I'd like to see that.
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I dunno, I've never lost the last mission :nervous:
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A monkey could win the last mission.
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it was suposed to, but it never got made
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Damnit, I was hoping I'd get to see the Earth go boom.:(
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Sandwich: The standard procedure goes something like: read, then post. The movie capture wasn't my first idea on how to do the conv.
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Originally posted by Bobboau
it was suposed to, but it never got made
Yeah... they took the experience and made both FS2 endings almost identical.
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I just found it, I'll give my FS2 discs a try.
Don't expect me to upload anything, 'cause I'm on ISDN...
Well, maybe if I manage to put together smg. with very good quality.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Sandwich: The standard procedure goes something like: read, then post. The movie capture wasn't my first idea on how to do the conv.
I know that, but I also know that the plain-jane MVE2AVI util is linked on a lot of sites, while the MVE2AVI Freespace build can only be found on this one site. Ergo, you apparently tried the non-FS build, since the colossus movie converted for Spicious. :D
Read then post my arse. :p
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Read then post my arse. :p
Ok, thats just wrong...
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:blah:
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I just now tried this thingy on the FS2 intro cutscene - and it worked - or at least I think so, but it's 4 gigs big. :eek2:
Just how, exactly might I go about compressing this with the DivX or Xvid codec? :confused:
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Heheheh...
Actually, you need another proggy. Sandwich told me about Virtualdub. Try that. (I don't have link, search, and ye shall find)
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yeah, virtualdub works wonders.
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Ok, now I have a 14.5MB version of the Colossus movie. I'm making a start on the intro. Anyone willing to host them?
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uhm, yeah, well, use my swooh account for now, but ask stealth for your own.
or an0n, could i use your server?
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I think I'm getting somewhere. :yes:
I'll see if I can post this on one of my website servers when I'm done.
Edit: I got the FS2 intro into a ~90 MB .avi (which started at 4 gigs) using the latest DivX codec. The only thing I find wrong with it is that there is some high-pitched beeping at the very beginning of the video, but other than that it looks ok.
Might I add, this site (http://gknot.doom9.org/) was instrumental in providing the utilities for the compressing process. Definately worth a visit. :nod:
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Originally posted by Joey_21
Edit: I got the FS2 intro into a ~90 MB .avi (which started at 4 gigs) using the latest DivX codec. The only thing I find wrong with it is that there is some high-pitched beeping at the very beginning of the video, but other than that it looks ok.
I had the same problem with the intro. I did manage to get it down to 34.5MB using DivX and mp3.
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I have ENDPART1.mve around 19,6 Mbytes and the performance is still satisfactory.
DivX RuleZ.:D
BTW welcome everybody to the world of video encoding - in other words: Welcome to "When the hell is this gona finish? I'm frying my own brains if this is not gona fix that near frame xxxx."
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Originally posted by Spicious
I had the same problem with the intro. I did manage to get it down to 34.5MB using DivX and mp3.
Hmm, how do you get Virtual Dub to use mp3 instead of whatever it's currently using?
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Originally posted by Joey_21
Hmm, how do you get Virtual Dub to use mp3 instead of whatever it's currently using?
it's in one of the menus, you can select the sound codec.
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Got it :yes: The total video is now 37.6 MB. It'll take about an hour and 30 minutes before I can have it fully uploaded because the server I'm using is being slow today. :doubt:
On the upside, I got rid of that annoying beep at the beginning by making some edits in goldwave. :)
Edit: Now that I've got the hang of this, I just converted the endgame for FS1. It doesn't take very long at all. I got it down to 17.3 MB. I'm still uploading the other one so I'll get this one up as soon as I can.
Edit2: FS1 Command Briefing cutscene converted. And Bosch's last cutscene. :D
Just my luck - the server I was uploading to doesn't allow large files. :doubt:
Anybody else have any suggestions to keep these hosted?
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Have you not an swooh.com account ?
if not so look here
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,16047.0.html
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Originally posted by Venom
it's in one of the menus, you can select the sound codec.
Most of us probably won't have an MP3 compressor available (the Fraunhofer MP3 codec that comes with Windows is decode-only). I recommend the LAME ACM codec. It's basically just the LAME (http://lame.sourceforge.net/) MP3 codec, implemented as an Audio Compression Manager component.
Get it here:
http://www.softnews.ro/public/cat/11/1/2/11-1-2-70.shtml
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Recap of the ones I've successfully converted:
bastion.mve - the bastion collapses the epsilon pegasi node - FS2 - 6.47 MB (http://www.nodewar.com/bastion.avi)
commandbrief.mve - admiral wolfe briefs pilots about the shivans - FS1 - 7.72 MB (http://www.nodewar.com/commandbrief.avi)
endgame.mve - final cutscene in FS1 - 17.3 MB (http://www.nodewar.com/endgame.avi)
intro.mve - intro for FS2 - 37.6 MB (http://www.nodewar.com/fs2_intro.avi)
mono2.mve - bosch's second cutscene - FS2 - 10.7 MB (http://www.nodewar.com/mono2.avi)
mono4.mve - bosch's fourth cutscene - FS2 - 10.7 MB (http://www.nodewar.com/mono4.avi)
w00t! Videos hosted on nodewar.com!
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Joey_21 Did you use a 2 pass encoding?
For me that was the best and easiest method to shrink the files.
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joey, the cutscenes look very good, but the sound in the endgame of FS1 is garbled.
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Originally posted by Flaser
Joey_21 Did you use a 2 pass encoding?
For me that was the best and easiest method to shrink the files.
Didn't need to... don't you think they're quite compressed enough? :p
Originally posted by kasperl
joey, the cutscenes look very good, but the sound in the endgame of FS1 is garbled.
That's very weird. It doesn't happen when I listen. Are you sure you're not listening through some bad speakers or you have too much bass boost through your player? :confused:
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no, i am sure it's the scene, because in the end, it clears up for the last 2 sentences.
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Originally posted by kasperl
no, i am sure it's the scene, because in the end, it clears up for the last 2 sentences.
Nothing's wrong with it that I can tell unless somebody else can give a second opinion...
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Joey_21, the multipass encoding has nothing to do with recompressing the file.
The DivX codecs - 5.0.3 and above allow an easy to use method for multipassing any video.
What it exactly does, is emulating the coding of the video for the first try. This creates an unreadable avi file.
The good thing is that it also creates a log file that contains a lot of data about the video file you're trying to encode.
So for the second or any later pass, you can use this log file, or its updated version to shrink the file as small as possible without loosing any quality, cause for each pass the codec tries to better understand the video.
What do I mean under understanding? The codec is very much like VBR encoding an mp3 file - it tries to use the bitrate that fits best the ammount of data present at the moment.
The difference is that this time the codec doesn't try this by guessing what the file going to look like, instead in evaluates the entire file.
What's up to you know is setting the basic encoding bitrate I guess good results are between 750-1500.
Later you can set a manual slider to tell the codec what you think of the video's transitions.
As for the sound problem, my guess is that you've allowed your Windows Media Player to do an update kasperl.
NEVER EVER LET MEDIA PLAYER WANDER THE NET!
What happened is that it downloaded Microsoft's ADVANCED MP3 CODEC: ergo, you can't play any mp3 properly with higher bitrates.
Search for a Professional codec on the net - that should solve your problem.
To check your codec go into Windows' multimedia and check the Hardware Tab, inside that audio codecs.
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i used winamp, and IE or quicktime or someting, and i never, ever alow wmp to do anything at all.
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Wow - glad to see all the work being put into this, guys. :yes:
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I have the entire 3'rd FS CD movies converted.
I'm trying to convert the Intro now.
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*dumps avi's on SVCD and goes to watch cutscenes on huge flatscreen tv*
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this is all very old news. Although I added a divx movie into a campaign and nothing happened. yes i used the -dshowvid option. this I am interested in knowing. How do we get it to work.
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I can't get Endgame to work
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You have to add the already mentioned parameter when running the 3.5 file, furtheremore, the file should be in your Freespace folder, and the campaign file should reference to it as well.
It did work in LM3.
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tried that previously
the divx in the directory. put in the campaign file the file name with the campaign editor. and used one of the builds I think it was 3.4 or 3.5 with the -dshowid option. I forget which. when I get back from school I will try again.
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Sandwich: I dunno. I'm pretty sure it was the FS one, but a lot of things don't work on this computer. Still, I'd like to give it another try.
So... does someone wanna take over the conversion project, or just send me the program?;)
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Sandwich: I dunno. I'm pretty sure it was the FS one, but a lot of things don't work on this computer. Still, I'd like to give it another try.
So... does someone wanna take over the conversion project, or just send me the program?;)
Stryke, for several reasons no one should be or would be able to do that.
On the other hand just do a search with Google.
You'll find it real fast.
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um.... so how're the FS1 movies coming?
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Flaser: Do NOT make me repeat my past half-dozen posts. If you've got something I haven't yet found on Google, after multiple searches of varying specificity, than it'll do. Otherwise, it's a waste of time for me to look, because I've already downloaded it and it doesn't ****ing work on this machine. In which case someone else will have to take up the job.
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Originally posted by Stunaep
um.... so how're the FS1 movies coming?
I'll be back home in a week plus change, and will get to them then, if no-one else has.
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Originally posted by Sheepy
you guys are gods and i praise you
*worships sandwich's feet*
(i knoe im a lil late on this)
u worship sanwich's BUN!?!
:p
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.......eh?
[edit]oh and any progress on them FS1 movies anyone? :D[/edit]
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:wtf:
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Originally posted by Sheepy
.......eh?
[edit]oh and any progress on them FS1 movies anyone? :D[/edit]
Actually, I'm glad this was bumped - I had forgotten to complete things. ;)
I'll get to the FS1 movies over the weekend; what's been done with the FS2 movies, anything?
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Someone not a million miles distant from this post converted all the FS2 movies and uploaded them to Fractux's server :D
Feel free to try converting the intro though. The one I converted had a couple of audio glitches at the start and end.
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Originally posted by karajorma
Feel free to try converting the intro though. The one I converted had a couple of audio glitches at the start and end.
FS1 or 2 intro?
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FS2. I know someone has already converted the FS1 intro cause I downloaded it :D
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*jumps up and down*
Wohoo!!! Cutsceenes!!! Yeeeey!
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Originally posted by karajorma
FS2. I know someone has already converted the FS1 intro cause I downloaded it :D
I'll have to see about getting my brother to try it - he has a few dozen GB free. :)
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Fair enough. :) You'll need 4.2 gigs free for the Intro. If you get the same glitch as I did you get an audio spike (don't know the correct term) at the start and a little noise right at the end.
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Oh YES! Damn, it's nice to see the Hallway Battle again... Pity about the jerky audio, but that's probably down to two things: converting the video with programs running in the background, and a 1.5Gb file size.
Doesn't Windows XP have a built-in tool for compressing video files? I can't find it anywhere...
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Look for Virtual Dub.
It isn't in windows, but it's out to solve your video conversion problems, moreover it's free.
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Originally posted by Descenterace
Oh YES! Damn, it's nice to see the Hallway Battle again... Pity about the jerky audio, but that's probably down to two things: converting the video with programs running in the background, and a 1.5Gb file size.
Doesn't Windows XP have a built-in tool for compressing video files? I can't find it anywhere...
:wtf: I converted the hallfight anim, and there was no jerky audio. Are you using the one that was DLed from the link on here? Or are you doing your own version?
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Dug out my FS CDs and did the conversion myself. Thing is, I had my internet connection, Trillian, and four IE6 instances running in the background. The video ran fine during the conversion, but when I played back the 1.5Gb AVI, the image and audio was jerky at some points.
Is there a tool to convert Descent 2's MVL files? PM23 doesn't work, and neigther does FSP.
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Originally posted by Descenterace
Dug out my FS CDs and did the conversion myself. Thing is, I had my internet connection, Trillian, and four IE6 instances running in the background. The video ran fine during the conversion, but when I played back the 1.5Gb AVI, the image and audio was jerky at some points.
Is there a tool to convert Descent 2's MVL files? PM23 doesn't work, and neigther does FSP.
Ahhh... you can't really run those humongous videos smoothly with any of today's computers, I'd guess... not unless it was a super-top-of-the-line rig, anyway. Or maybe not. Anyway, I can't run the big AVI's smoothly, I need to reencode them down with Divx (v5) and MP3 audio before I can play them as AVI's. I use VirtualDub. And IIRC< I posted the settings that got me the best size/quality ratio somewhere towards the beginning of the thread...
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Can anyone convert the MVE's on the ST cd's? I never seen them before, and i can't find ST here anymore.
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Good idea.
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Originally posted by Darkage
Can anyone convert the MVE's on the ST cd's? I never seen them before, and i can't find ST here anymore.
I thought all the movies on Silent Threat were already avi files? I guess I need to look at FS1 a little more often :D
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I asume they are MVE's but i can't say because i don't have ST:D
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I knew my video playing code in fs2_open would come in handy.
Im currently trying to checkin a fix that will let you use it with DX8 again.
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If you rename your avi,mpg, divx whatever to be mve and put it in the root of freespace then this exe
http://mysite.freeserve.com/thomaswhittaker/c_code/freespace/fs2_open_r.rar
should detect what it really is and play it. The intro wont play when you go in for some reason but it seems to work nicely in the techroom and hopefully between levels.
Im currently trying to check this code in but I've not got write access at the moment. :sigh:
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Huh? I've been using one of Phreaks builds for a while now and it used to play intro.avi every time I started the game. Maybe it doesn't play cause you renamed the file?
Instead of renaming the files maybe if you leave them as .avi and play the campaign using
this (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/Downloads/FS2_Open-WithMovies.zip) edited version of the campaign file the intro will work?
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Someones been fiddling with the code.
Not my fault. I dont even have write acess :(
My point is I have a fix for DX8 so it works in that as well as OGL.
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ok i know this is a major bump, but im still waiting on some movies :D also could someone look into the ST ones too, i really want to see them :(
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ST doesn't HAVE any cutscenes, does it?
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There are the movies on the CD. I desperately want to see the Headz video.
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As has been mentioned somewhere else, it's already in .avi I believe. The .mve cutscenes are just the ones that show up in-game.
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Sorry guys, but I desperately need to burn some CD's. I'll try to get the FS1 movies done as soon as I clear up some free room on my HDD.
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I have the headz video here, RARed up (self-extracting): 16.2mb. Anyone got some webspace?
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ask an0n at Nodewar (http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum) he will prob give you ftp access :D
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Okay, I'm there. :)
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Oy, anyone ever do the FS2 endgame ones? If I did my numbers right that's the only one that's really vital to gameplay that isn't up here, and it comes to me that I really should be arsed to finish off that SCP package and drop it off at HOTU sometime. The Colossus one would be dandy to have as well, of course, but if it's a pain in the arse to upload these that can be left out.
Also, no, I don't want a lot of posts saying "I agree but am going to do ****-all about it". I know you have the ability to type and hit the "Submit" button, it's very nice. It's also not what I want, and after posting only two threads in recent memory here I'm already sick of people doing lots of talk and not much else- if you can actually do something, have already done so, or want to but need some form of help, post away. Everyone else, just shut up, or maybe take the time you would to post to get the files where I can reach 'em. No cheerleading. It occurs to me that since Interplay is out of the picture someone could also just send me the link to the place, seeing as I still haven't found what y'all were talking about, but either way is fine by me.
Nice thread-revival warning system, by the way. And if Joey's still around, thanks for doing all the ****work on those other ones so I didn't have to.:D
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You need a ton of free HDD space to do thse two, as they are the largest. Lemme find that link for ya.
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Ahh, forget that - the site seems to be dead. I'll attach the file.
Darn attachment extension limitations - it's now a zipped rar. :rolleyes:
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You're an admin - can't you add rar to the list of allowed extensions?
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your an admin, do we do warez now?
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I converted them all Stryke. They should be up on Fractux's FTP. If you're putting together a new build of the HOTU PM and I can send them to you over ICQ.
I may redo one of them though cause the DIVX compression seems a little high for the monologue where Bosch is in the nebula.
EDIT : Bah. I've got lots of free space on my Swooh account. I'll upload the end movies (I might as well include bastion while I'm at it) and the colossus one. The intro and the monologues are another 80MB and I don't have space for them all on Swooh but I can still transfer those over some other way later.
I'll post again when they are up.
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Kas: Last I checked the FreeSpace license is in corporate limbo. Interplay do' care no mo'. Hence, still illegal, but no more so than, say, 80% of the activity that goes on online, including stuff here like using FreeSpace textures on non-FS-mod models and not crediting the companies. "Warez" would be the wrong term for this anyway, it's more of a cracking tool.
Kara: Probably a lot simpler if I just did 'em here myself. One thing, it'll take a bit less time and effort for me to compress 'em than download 'em. And I don't get to use my video editors enough as it is. And I think I'm awake at considerably different hours than you are. Thanks, though.
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You'll need a fair bit of space free. The intro took up 4.2Gig of uncompressed space when I converted it. The end movies were about half of that.
IF you do have the time and space try converting the intro movies. I got a big audio glitch at the beginning and end and I'd like to see if the same happens to you.
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Well, I already downloaded Joey's intro, and it's an acceptable size, so that one should'nt be a problem. And I can spare a few gigs for long enough to compress and get 'em on CD.
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Terribly sorry to revive this thread,I'm a n00b to this site and sadly aware of it.
My problem/Question is that the Hallfight avi is coming up as telefragged, (I'm refering to the one in the first 3 pages)
Do you have anyidea why this is, and If it is explained further in, I'm sorry.I'll re-read it again.
Thanks:)
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Holy cow. My ol' thread. :o
Uhm, I think Telefragged went down with VolitionWatch. There are undoubtably people who still have copies of that video, however. What format are you looking for, AVI? MVE?
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:welcome:
The movies are on Fractux' FTP. Check out the SCP(when the forum comes back (:wink: at Sandy).
There are flamethrowers under the seats, but they are only half full, and the igniters are shot so you'll have to bludgeon with them. Be careful if you find yourself in the ductwork. If you see a dark shape moving toward you put whatever food you have on the duct in front of you, back away and pray that it's just Carl. One last thing, be excellent to each other.:D
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[q]You're an admin - can't you add rar to the list of allowed extensions?[/q]
An old question, a quick answer: it's usually inside the code, not an admin panel.
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I have the mve files,andI have the avi converter, but I can't get it to work. So I guess I'm looking for the Avi files.
Liberator:Sorry, I didn't see the HLPBB before (like I said, I'm very new to this site, and I only recently got my copies of freespace back, So I'm kinda out of the loop)
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Originally posted by vyper
[q]You're an admin - can't you add rar to the list of allowed extensions?[/q]
An old question, a quick answer: it's usually inside the code, not an admin panel.
That post was awhile back. You can attach RARs to posts.
I'm surprised the "You're an admin" didn't tip you off. :p
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I know it's been asked, but I'll ask it again - is it possible now to integrate the fs1 movies, in whatever format, to the fs1 port, assuming you have the original files? And, if so, what must be done? Honestly, I liked the fs1 cutscenes better than the fs2 ones.
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Two birds with one stone (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/movies.html) :D
That should answer both Vasudan's request and most of Lukeskywalkie's.
To cover the rest. If you're running FS1Port on FS2_Open just drop those into the FS1Port folder and run with -mod FS1Port (Assuming that the VP files from the FS1 Port are also in the FS1Port folder)
If you're running retail simply copy the cutscenes off the CD into your main Freespace2 folder. This will however block the FS2 intro from being played until you delete intro.mve.
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I'm reviving this thread again, because that link in the above post does not work just like every other link to downloading the avi movies on this site. So tell me, what happened between now and April of 2005 that made that link go down? What happened to every other "Get the avi movies here" link on this site? Have any of them ever worked??
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I think most of the people hosting them have temporarily run out of server bandwidth. I got them a while ago and haven't tried any of the links recently.
We need some more permanent place to upload these things. Does HLP still have access to Fileplanet for stuff like this? (as much as I hate that site)
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We moved the Forum away from Gamespy. Yes they did work before.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/downloads.html
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This old thead again? Kewl. :p
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(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/Franky.jpg)
;)
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I'm reviving this thread again, because that link in the above post does not work just like every other link to downloading the avi movies on this site. So tell me, what happened between now and April of 2005 that made that link go down? What happened to every other "Get the avi movies here" link on this site? Have any of them ever worked??
1) Pretty much all of them worked at one time or another. Kosh's site worked for quite a while but once he left uni they eventually cottoned on to the fact and removed the FS2 ones (but strangely enough failed to notice the FS1 avi files.
2) The current set are down. I'm waiting for DW-Hunter to contact me with details of where to upload them to.
3) I'm more than willing to upload them somewhere else if someone knows of a good place.
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Actually, the Silent Threat hidden cutscenes on your site appear to work Kara, as does the MVE2AVI if people want to do it themselves ;)
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This is the thread that refuses to die.........
Kosh's site worked for quite a while but once he left uni they eventually cottoned on to the fact and removed the FS2 ones (but strangely enough failed to notice the FS1 avi files.
The people at that university are incredibly incompetant. It ALMOST took an act of god to convince the people at the Financial "Aid" Office that someone might actually want to live OUTSIDE of the US for a while. :rolleyes:
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Actually, the Silent Threat hidden cutscenes on your site appear to work Kara, as does the MVE2AVI if people want to do it themselves ;)
Yeah I never got around to removing the link on my page. The one I uploaded had the marine running through the halls mve too though.
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I could put the movies on my webserver if necessary. Bear in mind it runs off a 1MBit ADSL line and I will reserve the right to throttle connections when they interfere with my housemates' gaming and my webcomic browsing.
Got plenty disk space though.
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question, which is the best space/quality codec out there? in that i mean, which one will have the best picture for the least space
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DivX is probably the best known one, which most people already have the codecs for.
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XviD FTW.
It's somewhere around the same quality/compression as DivX, but is open-source and thus free.
At some point in time, I had an experience with DivX and Freespace that resulted in me uninstalling it and me forming some hatred of DivX. :wtf: I don't remember what it was, possibly some kind of spyware or forced-logo crap.
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XviD?
i installed it some time earlier from a CD i got to see a movie, and when i tried to open the said movie again 2 months later it said that the audio decoderrs trial date has expired or somesuch...
so, i'm a bit sceptic about XviD... will try tho, i have bout 6 gigs of fs2 movies sitting on my PC waiting to be converted :p
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That's likely to be quite slow to download but it's better than nothing. Do you already have the movies?
I could put the movies on my webserver if necessary. Bear in mind it runs off a 1MBit ADSL line and I will reserve the right to throttle connections when they interfere with my housemates' gaming and my webcomic browsing.
Got plenty disk space though.
That's likely to be quite slow to download but it's better than nothing. Do you already have the movies?
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Xvid, so we don't run into any copyright crapola. It may not be quite as good as the very latest DivX, but it's more than good enough. :)
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LOL @ karajorma :)
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Funny thing is I have no idea how I managed to get the sentence to repeat itself like that. :D
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That's likely to be quite slow to download but it's better than nothing. Do you already have the movies? I could put the movies on my webserver if necessary. Bear in mind it runs off a 1MBit ADSL line and I will reserve the right to throttle connections when they interfere with my housemates' gaming and my webcomic browsing.
Got plenty disk space though.
That's likely to be quite slow to download but it's better than nothing. Do you already have the movies?
No, but once I know my Windows install is secure against WMFs again I can convert them in a couple of hours.
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question, which is the best space/quality codec out there? in that i mean, which one will have the best picture for the least space
Unlike what was previously said (DivX & Xvid), the best is H.264 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H264). For audio, use AAC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding). How to play? Get CCCP (http://www.cccp-project.net/).
But why the CCCP and not some other codec pack? (http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ#But_why_the_CCCP_and_not_some_other_codec_pack.3F)
And encoding?
x264 (http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html)
AAC (http://www.rarewares.org/aac.html)
Edit: And unlike many of you may think, H.264/x264 does not REQUIRE you to encode HD-quality video which would result in amazing quality but would also require a lot of CPU performance to decode it.
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Yes, but does the FSOpen engine support h.264 playback? And for the love of Pete, don't use AAC! What's wrong with plain MP3 or Ogg Vorbis?
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Yes, but does the FSOpen engine support h.264 playback?
It supports whatever Windows Media Player can play, and with right codecs it can play H.264 too. As H.264 and AAC is adopted by Apple, Mac users should have it easy too. Linux users knows where to get the codecs anyway.
And for the love of Pete, don't use AAC! What's wrong with plain MP3 or Ogg Vorbis?
Nothing wrong with AAC mate, its quite on-par with vorbis. MP3 has licensing problems as much as DivX does.
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MP3 has licensing problems as much as DivX does.
Don't you just love it when corperate greed ruins a good product?
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AAC, however, requires a license be purchased (http://www.vialicensing.com/products/mpeg4aac/standard.html). Ogg Vorbis FTW. :)
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I've toyed with .aac, and in my opinion a high quality .mp3 is better than that piece of Apple crap :p
.ogg on the other hand is a decent, and open, format ;)
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question, which is the best space/quality codec out there? in that i mean, which one will have the best picture for the least space
Unlike what was previously said (DivX & Xvid), the best is H.264 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H264). For audio, use AAC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding). How to play? Get CCCP (http://www.cccp-project.net/).
But why the CCCP and not some other codec pack? (http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ#But_why_the_CCCP_and_not_some_other_codec_pack.3F)
And encoding?
x264 (http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html)
AAC (http://www.rarewares.org/aac.html)
Edit: And unlike many of you may think, H.264/x264 does not REQUIRE you to encode HD-quality video which would result in amazing quality but would also require a lot of CPU performance to decode it.
I don't like to beat a dead horse, but I can give a 5 cents on this one:
Give it some time.
Xvid has been around now for quite a while. x264 is still very new.
Never use codec packs unless you know each and every single item inside and know that you need it.
On a different note:
Anyone ever took a look into Mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html)?
It's the ultimate movie player from the perspective of compability - and it's open source.
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Never use codec packs unless you know each and every single item inside and know that you need it.
Which is exactly why I can only recommend CCCP out of the numerous other codeck packs. If you're in doubt, read the link I posted in the post you quoted.