Hard Light Productions Forums
Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on July 18, 2003, 10:43:11 am
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I frequent many forums, many use vBulletin, many use other scripts, but of all of them, HLP's pages load MUCH faster than any others... why is this? it's not the number of threads or users, so what could it be? i know many of you don't notice this, but on 56K i do, and if i type forums.hardlightproductions.com, in 5 seconds everything's 100% loaded, whereas if i go to another forum i wait like 20-40 seconds sometimes. is there some SQL function i don't know about that does this? :D i've optimized ours, and i still don't notice a difference.
admins? an0n?
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It does not contain random images the size of manhattan everywhere? Thats the main problem with most forums, that their images are enormous.
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i was thinking that, but some forums i go to don't even have the header banner that HLP does, and they have the generic "post new topic" etc. buttons, not custom.
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It's magic.
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It's part of The Plan™:p
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Jeez, always with the People's Liberation Army Navy in here... you guys are obsessed
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I know why its an microsoft experimental server with a P4 overlocked to 10Ghz and a lot of ram with a triple T3 connection :p :p
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Well, I don;t know about anyone else, but it's loading unusually fast for me tonight. I'm not complaining though :)
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I assume you mean the forums, and not nessecarily the mainpages, correct?
Do a traceroute to the dynamic4 server, see if it's perhaps in the Texas area. :)
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they don't really load faster or slower for me. Yesterday it was utter ****e.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
I assume you mean the forums, and not nessecarily the mainpages, correct?
Do a traceroute to the dynamic4 server, see if it's perhaps in the Texas area. :)
no, not the mainpages, only the forums. the forums are, and have always been unusually fast loading for 56K.
i know it's nothing to do with the Texas are (you bastard :D) because other forums on dynamic4 load just as slow as the others, and even swooh's forums, which is like a mile away, loads as slow as the others. it's incredible :D
they don't really load faster or slower for me. Yesterday it was utter ****e.
realize that i'm not talking about loading fast(er) the last day, week, or month... they've ALWAYS loaded fast for me, and when i load other vBulletin forums they take along time!
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that's interesting.
They load the same as all the other vB forums here...
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It's due to my godlike aura of divinity.
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Its probably because GameSpy typically runs a fairly good server and are connected properly to a fairly reliable (relatively speaking) internet backbone. Thats probably why. Forums typically are slow because of the server not having enough juice or the connection not passing info as reliably as its supposed to...OR both :)
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GZip isn't enabled on the forums is it?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
that's interesting.
They load the same as all the other vB forums here...
!? i'm talking about THESE forums, compared to every OTHER vBulletin forums that i've been to. by me saying:
only the forums. the forums are, and have always been unusually fast loading for 56K.
i'm talking about all of HLP's forums. i thought that was pretty obvious. anyway, i'm comparing how extremely fast they load, to how fast other vBulletin (NON-HLP FORUMS) load all over the net.
IceFire: That's what i thought, but other forums on the dynamic4 load as slow as other forums all over the net. :blah: i'm confused ;)
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Originally posted by Stealth
!? i'm talking about THESE forums, compared to every OTHER vBulletin forums that i've been to. by me saying:
i'm talking about all of HLP's forums. i thought that was pretty obvious. anyway, i'm comparing how extremely fast they load, to how fast other vBulletin (NON-HLP FORUMS) load all over the net.
yeeessss... your point being?
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That's interesting... I also find this place pretty fast, but I don't have much to compare it to.
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There's good compression on all the graphics. There's no crappy Filter code to process on the index and showthread php files. Gamespy servers have good connectivity. And there's probably some reason why there's a low server load. Maybe some other popular sites got hacked and went down or something, reducing the number of connections to the server.
Also, running vB 2.2.6, HLP doesn't have alot of the redundant, useless **** that other, newer versions of vB run.
And they've removed the whothread thing from the showthread and index pages, which is a bunch less code to process.
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Originally posted by an0n
There's good compression on all the graphics. There's no crappy Filter code to process on the index and showthread php files. Gamespy servers have good connectivity. And there's probably some reason why there's a low server load. Maybe some other popular sites got hacked and went down or something, reducing the number of connections to the server.
Also, running vB 2.2.6, HLP doesn't have alot of the redundant, useless **** that other, newer versions of vB run.
And they've removed the whothread thing from the showthread and index pages, which is a bunch less code to process.
ahhhh. i see. thanks.
yeeessss... your point being?
They load the same as all the other vB forums here...
uhhh, my point being the whole thread? if you don't understand what we're talking about, then maybe you should go somewhere else :nod: :yes:
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Oh no, it's alright. The only thing I don't quite understand is why you explaining things that you don't even need to.
Then again.... :nervous:
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Oh no, it's alright. The only thing I don't quite understand is why you explaining things that you don't even need to.
Then again.... :nervous:
because
yeeessss... your point being?
^^ you neededsomething explained
and
that's interesting.
They load the same as all the other vB forums here...
^^ you didn't understand what i was saying.
So (everyone) compressing the graphics is all i could really do to speed up forum loading time, right?
:doubt:
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD
GZip isn't enabled on the forums is it?
Dammit. I can't believe I forgot about Gzip.
It's probably set to something stupid like 8.
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Err, here might mean Gamespy Stealth - that's the impression I got anyway.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Err, here might mean Gamespy Stealth - that's the impression I got anyway.
"here" could mean Gamespy, HLP, his house, anything. but even if he was talking about Gamespy, i already said:
because other forums on dynamic4 load just as slow as the [slow-loading ones],
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Anyone ever been to the Megatokyo boards? Those things make my DSL seem like a 28K Baud modem.
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It seems to be about the same as most other servers for me...
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"But you aren't getting it CP. You don't understand. I'm comparing THESE forums to OTHER vB forums. HLP's forums are a lot faster!!! It's amazing, I just... can't beleive it, and I still don't get why!! LOL :lol: ;) "
:blah:
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Originally posted by CP5670
It seems to be about the same as most other servers for me...
but you're running Cable or DSL, right? you wouldn't notice the difference. i on the other hand would, being on 56K :D that's why i was asking
Knight Templar: please don't even start. you can't comprehend what we're talking about (which isn't hard to understand: HLP is faster loading than other vB forums all over the internet, including Gamespy servers) ,so go read about it perhaps
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Okay, that was a poor retort, even for you.
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:sigh:
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Originally posted by an0n
Okay, that was a poor retort, even for you.
well i was trying to say it as quickly and easy for him to understand, i'd been trying to explain to him the whole of the first page of this thread. and he's not very good with computers and stuff, so i've got to make sure i say it simple and short.
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Alright, enough - you guys are starting to sound like my brother and I when we get started. Stop jabbing and picking on every stupid little thing. Now.
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see an0n, that's why i'm not trying to give a good "comeback" or "retort". i said i was not going to argue with Knight Templar anymore. i said i was going to be the better man, and walk away. that's why i'm being nice, and explaining to him although he's being sarcastic and snotty :) :nod:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Alright, enough - you guys are starting to sound like my brother and I when we get started. Stop jabbing and picking on every stupid little thing. Now.
That's...........strange.
Very, very strange.
And am I the only one who sees the irony in the last post?
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Originally posted by an0n
That's...........strange.
Very, very strange.
And am I the only one who sees the irony in the last post?
awww, you guessed it
the truth... the truth is that....
ME AND KNIGHT TEMPLAR ARE BROTHERS
... not :doubt:
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Originally posted by an0n
That's...........strange.
Very, very strange.
And am I the only one who sees the irony in the last post?
Am I the only one to have heard the old axiom "It takes one to know one"? ;)
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Errr. He's not a troll. I am.
Trolls are retarded on purpose. He was just dropped alot as a child.
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Sandwhich: :p :blah:
Stealth: 1) That was Lame. 2) You still think "I don't get it?". Give it up man. Saying I don't get it, which there was hardly evidence of that I even had a question, and then explaining yourself is a really ghey way to try to make yourself feel better. Make fun of my mother's weight or something if you are going to get that low. Trying to patronize me doesn't really make me feel bad, just kinda.. ':wtf:'
and he's not very good with computers and stuff, so i've got to make sure i say it simple and short.
:lol:
Oh, on a side note, the better guy part is coming off as whiney. try something new! :yes:
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As flame-wars go, this is the equivelant of the Nazi invasion of Switzerland.
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The reason is very complex- it has to do with intercontinential fiberoptic lines, the way the bitstream moves on UNIX servers, those nasty little paste-like fish fingers, and my own overwhelmingly magnetic sex appeal.
The same thing is the cause of el Nino, incidentially. Although there the rubber bands are placed slightly differently...
That do ya, Stealth?
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In the interests of not excluding the less technically capable of the forumites from the discussion, I have decided to publish a book on the subject. See below.
Stryke's Post For Dummies:[/u]
*STAB*
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CORRECTION: My sex appeal is technically known as "devastating".
Also: You're just jealous because you didn't know about the fishsticks bit. And the fact that all of you are sitting around pretending to have technical expertise despite the fact that you missed the bit about "We're on an ultra-fast Gamespy server, but get absolutely jack for hits compared to every other Gamespy site, most of which are being overwhelmed even though they were built for ridiculous bandwidth" makes my non-explanation sound pretty valid. Tthbt.
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I beleive me and Stealth were in the middle of something. :D :p
and devasting? You've got about as much sex appeal as Larry King afterprostate surgery....
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Have you seen that man's prostate?;)
Anyway, seeing as you've never met me and still you keep hitting on me, it must be pretty powerful ****. Unfortunately, the looove machine doesn't shift to that gear- sorry man, but if you've got a sister and she didn't get your ugly gene...
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
CORRECTION: My sex appeal is technically known as "devastating".
Devestating to what? A woman's self-esteem?
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I have the pics. Lets just say, they don't do your thighs any credit at all, from what I hear of course.
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Lesbian organizations.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Have you seen that man's prostate?;)
No, but he's felt one.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Lesbian organizations.
Yeah, a flood of applications can really kill a charity organization.
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LK's? Or the petrified one?
And ouch, he didn't deserve that :lol:
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I think we have already assessed that you are merely jealous and that your comments hence have no value. Anyone who's not heinously ugly care to speak? Anyone? Anyone? Oh, that's right, you're all worshipping at my feet or performing other services that involve a similar position. Ah well, can't have everything...
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WHat's an LK?
Anyone who's not heinously ugly care to speak?
Damn! My one weakness.
Curse you Luth....err......Stryke.
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Larry King.
Don't say "yes", he'll tell you the full anecdote. It involves kittens and a plunger.
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Rosie O'Donnel called. She says she wants her funny ba... plunger eh?
;7
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"Funny"?
Odd euphemism for a pancreas. But whatever explodes your pelican, I suppose...
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Rice rice baby? :wtf:
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No no no. I'm the one who posts ":wtf: ", you just make the inexplicable post.
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oh... see, I was offset by the post before mine. Beyween the prostates and whurring noise in the ceiling, It's an0n's fault anyways.
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Dude, you don't store your prostates in the ceiling, they go bad. You put 'em in a nice cool wine cellar. Or, alternately, back in Larry King. Sicko.
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how about duct taped to the side of your leg?
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Knight Templar: whatever... i just got the impression that you didn't get what i was talking about, but that's probably cause you were just being sarcastic. :rolleyes:
regardless, we'd have experienced different speeds of forums loading (of course) since you're on cable (right?) and i'm only on 56K ;)
Stryke, an0n, and Knight Templar: you may continue :)
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
how about duct taped to the side of your leg?
It's gonna hurt trying to peel that off.
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He shaves.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
He shaves.
This gives me an idea :drevil: