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Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 18, 2003, 10:54:57 am
Some of you wanted pics of the progress made so far on the Irken Assault Mod, so here they are. A few textures look messed up on one of the ships, but that's because my graphics card is crapping out on me. (I need a new one desperately.) Hope you enjoy these few shots we've gotten so far...

//www.geocities.com\spike_al99\screens
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Unknown Target on July 18, 2003, 11:18:58 am
LOL! AWESOME! :yes:

Will we get to play as Dib for the Earth forces?
Title: play as Dib?
Post by: Sephiroth on July 18, 2003, 02:33:29 pm
well, if Dib wasn't in it, there wouldn't be much point, would there? :) But seriously, yes, his personal ship will be available for use, but Dib himself will probably be a commander or general or something like that.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: FreeTerran on July 18, 2003, 02:40:43 pm
The ship looks like an beetle
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 18, 2003, 02:48:34 pm
you got a problem with that?
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: FreeTerran on July 18, 2003, 03:01:16 pm
No why shall i have an problem ? the style is cool
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: wEvil on July 18, 2003, 03:04:18 pm
you shall have a problem because.......becauuuusse......:nervous:
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: diamondgeezer on July 18, 2003, 03:09:28 pm
Blimey... very odd but very cool. Is it my imagination or are those two ships reminiscent of the Demon and Herc II/Myrmidon?
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: redsniper on July 18, 2003, 03:16:38 pm
so will we be playing on the human side, or the Irken side?
and will ZIM be in it?
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 18, 2003, 04:13:22 pm
I want GIR to pilot the support ship. :D

This is the first I've heard of this mod. Woah. I want it!

Comm anims should be easy to come by, since there are so many instances on the show of characters talking on video screens. And the intro credits has a nice frame at the end that could be adapted to a number of interface elements. Hmmm.

So which ships are you planning on modelling? There's the big Irken command ships, the Voot Cruisers, the orbital facility, and... ummm... piggies? And what about human ships? I don't recall seeing any on the show.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: mikhael on July 18, 2003, 04:44:57 pm
I haven't the foggiest idea what this mod is based off of, but I like that fighter and that capship. :D
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Carl on July 18, 2003, 04:49:36 pm
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Originally posted by FreeTerran
The ship looks like an beetle


an beetle?

"an" is only used before vowels. its: "The ship looks like a beetle"
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Carl on July 18, 2003, 04:52:37 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
And what about human ships? I don't recall seeing any on the show.


if you remember the episode "Dib's Wonderful Life", the grown up Dib led an earth force to intercept the Irken fleet.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: betterthanyou on July 18, 2003, 05:36:37 pm
I need to keep up with the community. This is gotta be the best mod idea I've seen in a long time, but that's probably just because I'm undeniably in love with IZ in general.

Ok, you're going to have to have the flying saucer from "Attack of the Saucer Morons". Ok, well it isn't vital, but it would still be cool to have.

And can we fly the planets like in "Battle of the Planets?" Pulllllease?
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 18, 2003, 07:26:33 pm
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Originally posted by Carl
if you remember the episode "Dib's Wonderful Life", the grown up Dib led an earth force to intercept the Irken fleet.
Ah, I haven't seen that one. Or Battle of the Planets. Or any recent ones, actually. :(

I'm going to sing the Doom Song now...

EDIT: Woah, major Endor Syndrome--

(http://www.thescarymonkeyshow.com/images/dwlod/dwlod61.jpg)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: 01010 on July 18, 2003, 10:14:24 pm
I just don't understand how a piece of crap channel like Nickelodeon managed to get a quality program like Invader Zim in the first place.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Unknown Target on July 18, 2003, 11:23:06 pm
exactly. So they cancelled it :D

Anyways, I want to pilot the Foo Runner! :D
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 12:36:56 am
the massive, the armoda capitol ship. the side pods are filled with snacks, it's there weak spot. Alpha, you will be bringing down the massive.

but Dib, sir, who will lead alpha squadran?

Heyaa!

/*...lots of explosions n'stuff...*/

OUR SNACKS!!!!

It's over! Retreat!
AWHAAHHAHAHA!!!!

BTW if anyone needs there ZIM, I can help you...
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Nico on July 19, 2003, 05:26:49 am
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Originally posted by mikhael
I haven't the foggiest idea what this mod is based off of, but I like that fighter and that capship. :D


exact same here.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: aldo_14 on July 19, 2003, 06:47:21 am
Cool.  I've wanted to see something cell shaded (or at least, as far as possible with the engine) in FS for ages :)  Models look ace :yes:

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/seal.gif)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 07:11:18 am
though it does look as if they have broken the limets of the engine about 10 times over, they actualy look like (rather low poly) rendering models.

for those of you who are confused, PM me and I'll show you were you can get everything
I would just poast a link but, that would probly piss certan people off
venom, I have a feeling you'd love Invader Zim
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Carl on July 19, 2003, 08:17:01 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Cool.  I've wanted to see something cell shaded (or at least, as far as possible with the engine) in FS for ages :)  Models look ace :yes:

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/seal.gif)


yeah, uh, that would require us putting in a cel shader, and FS doesn't really have multiple shaders to begin with.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 09:47:57 am
oh, how hard could it be?...
and I just figured I'd post this (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/GIR.avi)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Nico on July 19, 2003, 01:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
though it does look as if they have broken the limets of the engine about 10 times over, they actualy look like (rather low poly) rendering models.

for those of you who are confused, PM me and I'll show you were you can get everything
I would just poast a link but, that would probly piss certan people off
venom, I have a feeling you'd love Invader Zim


mmh... well I'll look after this on google :)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 19, 2003, 01:42:15 pm
Almost all the major objects in Zim already exist as 3D models.

Yeah, I know we'll never get our hands on them, but I can dream.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: 01010 on July 19, 2003, 02:23:39 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Almost all the major objects in Zim already exist as 3D models.

Yeah, I know we'll never get our hands on them, but I can dream.


Did the series have a definite end or was it cut off halfway through?

I've seen five, maybe six eps of Invader Zim and I really liked it. Wonder if it'll ever make it over here.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 19, 2003, 03:45:39 pm
Zim was cancelled without warning by the Nickelodeon Jimmy Neutron-worshipping beancounters.

You can get all 38 eps on DVD off eBay. Yes, they're bootleg.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 04:28:17 pm
or you can do a google search for the phrase "Episode guide and other various info" and maybe find a better way

if that is too big for you look for "A Closet With a Moose"
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Nuclear1 on July 19, 2003, 05:16:39 pm
Just what the world needs... an Invader Zim mod. :lol:

Anyway, good work so far. Keep at it. :yes:
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 19, 2003, 05:20:43 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
or you can do a google search for the phrase "Episode guide and other various info" and maybe find a better way

if that is too big for you look for "A Closet With a Moose"
That's "A Room With a Moose" (it's a pun, get it?!). And since I don't have a DVD burner, I doubt I'll find anything better than that.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Shrike on July 19, 2003, 05:21:30 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
I want GIR to pilot the support ship. :D
Heh, that would be too funny.  GIR rules.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 19, 2003, 05:26:18 pm
It would certainly explain the way the support ship flies.

And of course, there'd have to be an Admiral Scary Monkey.


Scary Monkey Show! (http://www.thescarymonkeyshow.com/)
Title: Yay.
Post by: Sephiroth on July 19, 2003, 06:36:20 pm
I see everyone seems to be at least mildly interested in the mod, and I'm sure the rest of the mod team will be as overjoyed as I am. All advice is appreciated. Now to clear some stuff up:

Yes, our goal is to incorporate every ship ever iseen in the IZ series into the game somehow. All known Irken ships can be seen at www.thescarymonkeyshow.com/  We intend to use all of them, including the voot runner (of course). Also, the mod will feature all of the Earth ships featured in the "Dib's Wonderful Life of Doom" episode.

The Character list just seems to grow and grow. Characters to be seen in the mod will (at this point) include: Dib, Gaz, Prof. Membrane, Several various "filler" soldiers, GIR, Zim, the Scary Monkey, Tallest Red and Purple, and Tak (who, in my opinion, should be promoted to a general in the Irken Empire in the game).

Finally, the game will rely heavily on an unaired episode of IZ. The episode is called "Backseat Drivers from Beyond the Stars", and odds are you haven't seen it yet. If you are going to play the mod, you'll need to see this first. I have it and will be on Kazza Lite, distributing in 24/7 for the next week or two. I am under the username of sephiroth@kazza. If you have this episode, please help me distribute it so that we can spread the good... zim-my... coolness that is in this episode.

There is an alliance against the Irken Empire in this unaired episode, and that means new characters and new ships. I'm talking corvettes, etc. So find me and get it!

-Sephiroth
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 07:10:43 pm
I have that episode, and in divix5, but the quality isn't very good, and the file is enormus, but I'llput it in with the rest of my zim(in the shared folder) you wouldn't happen to know were I could get the rest of those season 2 eps would you?
Title: rescue the season 2 eps!
Post by: Sephiroth on July 19, 2003, 07:13:13 pm
unfortunately, most of them aren't complete. From what I can tell, those that are are being held hostage by the bastards at nickelodeon. anyone up for busting in and liberating some zim eps with me?
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Carl on July 19, 2003, 07:15:37 pm
and you have to make a node map with all the planets, like Irk and the conveyor belt planet.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 07:27:21 pm
foodcortia, conventia, blorch (home of the slaurtering rat people, concered by invader skooge), vort (concered by invader larr, former ally of Irk, major millitary reasearch prison, home of the univers' most comfortable couch), booty nin (home of the large nostraled people, concered (or about to be) by invader slaks), meekrob (nearly concered by invader tenn, if not for a few malfunctioning SIRs)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Carl on July 19, 2003, 07:33:52 pm
make it so that some of the massive's debris is snacks.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 07:48:28 pm
now if you will just give us a little puppet show depicting how you plan to complete this mod...
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 19, 2003, 07:55:51 pm
...memo to self...make massive's debris snacks.....make node map of IZ planets.........make IZ puppets and borrow freind's video camera.........
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 08:43:37 pm
can we get a mission were we get to blow up space santa...
but fail miseably obviusly,
becase he's still terrorising earth 2 million years in the furure
of corse :)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 19, 2003, 09:37:45 pm
brilliant!!!!!! I hadn't even thought of the santa suit!
.....memo to self.....thank bobbau in the credits......
i'll pry forget, but thanks a heap! (goes off, whistling happily to self)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 19, 2003, 10:06:06 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Carl
and you have to make a node map with all the planets, like Irk and the conveyor belt planet.
Well, not a node map per se. Nodes don't appear to exist in the Zim universe. It's just regular go-anywhere hyperspace.

Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
can we get a mission were we get to blow up space santa...
but fail miseably obviusly,
becase he's still terrorising earth 2 million years in the furure
of corse :)
Huh? 2 million years?
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 19, 2003, 10:11:32 pm
you could have it twards the end, after zim's ship gets blowen up or something he could be drifting in space in the little invisable bubble hemet space suit thing and the in the distance he sees the santa suit, and realises he can reprogram it to anialate the humans, starting with dib.
the mission would be simply to distroy the santa suit, and all you'd need is a fairly bad looking blob in the general shape of santa and make the candy cane arms and spider legs as turrets, when you'r close enough they'll swing tring to point at you wich will result in you getting smahed around, when you're further away, they can shoot some sort of candy cain missles at you.
you manage to blast it's head off or something (spilling out ZIM) "but santa lives on"...:D

Zylon you havn't seen the Zim Most Horrible Xmas Ever christmass spectacular!?
you must get it, NOW!!! it's one of, if not the best, Zim ever, especaly the ending
...yes 2 million years
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 19, 2003, 10:30:54 pm
Ok, that's it... I'm ordering that frelling bootleg Zim DVD.  (shakes fist angrily at Nickelodeon)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Unknown Target on July 19, 2003, 10:53:28 pm
Some more characters:

"Best Friend"

The Teacher, forgot her name.

The Squirrle

The Fat guy with the mullet.

The paranormal guy (from "Career Day")

The saucer morons, and their leader.

The Babies from "Plauge of Babies"

The Hospital ward guy, also from "Plauge of Babies"

Count Chocula.

EDIT: Oh yea! And the Planet Jackers!

and some others, but I forget them :D
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 20, 2003, 12:02:24 am
that would be
Keef
Mrs. Bitters
...squirrel...
Bill
childeren of the bright and shining saucer, led by frank (I think)
the Nargoth, led by Shnoogy
hospital ward guy is of no importance
and it's count cocoa fang!!
and I don't remember what the names of the planet jackers were
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 20, 2003, 01:53:12 am
scarymonkeyshow.com has a fairly comprehensive character list. Doesn't include Taco Human though ("Shut your noise tube, taco human!"), which is odd, since it does include Burger Lord.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Carl on July 20, 2003, 04:36:25 am
Quote
Originally posted by ZylonBane
Well, not a node map per se. Nodes don't appear to exist in the Zim universe. It's just regular go-anywhere hyperspace.


well, you must admit there is an uncanny similarity.
(http://www.thescarymonkeyshow.com/images/tnb/pic72.jpg)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 20, 2003, 04:38:13 am
yeah, we have a few of those characters, but lots of them will just be cameos. the more weight they hold in the show, the easier it is to incorporate them into the storyline.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Nico on July 20, 2003, 05:03:07 am
that thing seems... odd.
Well I like the ships, at least :p
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: J.F.K. on July 20, 2003, 05:20:33 am
That interface screen looks tight...
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 20, 2003, 05:46:34 am
well, since you like it so much, I've taken the liberty of posting a few more pics of the interface-in-progress! check it out and tell me what ya think...
www.geocities.com/spike_al99/screens
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 20, 2003, 08:45:25 pm
Those interface backgrounds are cool, but not the least bit Zimmy.

Now this is how it should look. (http://www.nick.com/all_nick/tv_supersites/zim/wallpapers/images/zim_labr-1024.jpg)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on July 20, 2003, 10:52:50 pm
ya, you can do all kinds of cool stuff with the interface art
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 21, 2003, 03:21:09 pm
i know, these are just temporary, and are to show the general color scheme. I'm keeping the background images, but I'll get aroung to changing the actual buttons and windows to look more zim-like.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 21, 2003, 03:23:09 pm
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Originally posted by Sephiroth
I'm keeping the background images
Boooo! :no:
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 21, 2003, 03:32:26 pm
oh, come on, it's better than your plain purple background idea!
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Styxx on July 21, 2003, 04:08:55 pm
You could use the frame of the pic Zylon posted with your current pic replacing the plain purple area.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 21, 2003, 05:10:11 pm
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Originally posted by Sephiroth
oh, come on, it's better than your plain purple background idea!
That was merely an art style example, not a literal suggestion.

I think it would be in the best interest of the mod to maintain the bold, flat, thick-lined cartoony look of the show. There are dozens of generic space scenes throughout the episodes that would be suitable for interface backgrounds. The wavy translucent Photoshop-filter-looking stuff just doesn't fit.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 22, 2003, 01:51:44 am
alright, I'll run it by the other guys and see what they say.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: ZylonBane on July 22, 2003, 10:22:45 am
BTW, in case you guys haven't found this already, here's some very high-quality source music from the show:

http://www.kmmproductions.com/music.html
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Sephiroth on July 22, 2003, 03:34:51 pm
yeah, we have it. My pal Warlord Bob just started on the music for the mod a few days ago, and as soon as we finish some music, we'll be posting clips of it on the site, once that gets up :) As the music on Kevin's site os a bit limited, Warlord Bob has asked for owners of episodes to help suggest thier fav tunes from different IZ episodes and stuff. Maybe we should start a new thread for that? I don't know...
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Gortef on July 23, 2003, 03:31:22 am
I'm not that familiar with the theme either (I've heard about Invader Zim though). But the pics look good nevertheless :)
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on August 23, 2003, 07:13:07 am
sorry for bumping this but I though you guys would like this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,16893.0.html)
this mod was probly one of the biggest resons why I did it, so now all the models can look the way there suposed to look, you will need to include the black outlines in the models, but I can tell you how to do that if you don't know how.

BTW if you havn't alredy you should get some involvment with the exsisting IZ comunity, this could serve the two fold perpose of helping both comunitys
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Nico on August 23, 2003, 07:42:54 am
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
you will need to include the black outlines in the models, but I can tell you how to do that if you don't know how.


if that's what I think it is ( the inverted normals, right? ), that's gonna be a severe drag on resources, doubling all the polys...
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on August 23, 2003, 07:47:46 am
they don't have to get lit and they don't need to be textured so it won't be too bad, I guess I could look into coding it again, but I don't think there would be any major performence boost doing it that way, the biggest slow down will be in the transforming of the verts
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Nico on August 23, 2003, 08:26:43 am
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
they don't have to get lit and they don't need to be textured so it won't be too bad, I guess I could look into coding it again, but I don't think there would be any major performence boost doing it that way, the biggest slow down will be in the transforming of the verts


yeah. plus, to be honest, coding that would be a nightmare. major lines could be done according to the angle of the poly based on the camera position, but that wouldn't cover half the special cases ( since you've played with cell shading too, in TS, I'm sure you're well aware of the numerous problems outlines can have if the model isn't adapted to that kind of render... ).
at least, the inversed normals technic is easy to do in max, tanks to the "grow" modifier ( coz it makes the mesh inflatuate on a poly basys, unlike a plain scale up option that will most often don't work, both meshes won't conform anymore ).
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on August 23, 2003, 08:30:49 am
there is a TS plugin that does basicly the same thing, it's what I used on my erlier cell shaded renderings, it works prety well even if it takes forever (in comparison to haveing a shader do it for you) and I think it's the best way to do it for a game, if it is to be done at all, wich I think it should be.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Nico on August 23, 2003, 08:55:55 am
well yeah, I agree, of course, but as you pointed out, it's awfully resources intensive.
Title: Irken Assault Pics
Post by: Bobboau on August 23, 2003, 11:53:23 am
it should end up nothing after the mythical T&L upgrade :)