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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on July 20, 2003, 11:06:20 pm
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http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html
My cousin pointed this to me, he says that his personalized anti-spam filter based upon this idea works better than CloudMark (http://www.cloudmark.com/)'s SpamNet (for those of you who have heard of it).
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For the record, Mozilla's mail client has Bayesian (this filtering method) tagging builtin. I get no more than two or three spams a week with this in place and I've only had two false positives in the last several months.
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Originally posted by mikhael
For the record, Mozilla's mail client has Bayesian (this filtering method) tagging builtin. I get no more than two or three spams a week with this in place and I've only had two false positives in the last several months.
Really? I've been using Mozilla's eail client for months, but it's been spotty/buggy. But I've been deleting mesages after marking them as opposed to leaving them in the junk folder... what's the correct method of using Moz's spam filter?
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As you go along marking mail as Junk or NotJunk, you are essentially giving weights to the various characteristics. I know when I first install Moz fresh, EVERYTHING gets marked as Junk.
I'm running 1.4, so I tell it to trash anything I personally mark as junk and to move automatically flagged messages to the junk directory. I manually move them back out of there if they're not junk (only happened a couple of times). once you've done this for a couple of weeks, you can pretty much go ahead and tell it to delete junk on site. I don't do this of course, because I'm paranoid about false positives, but those are pretty rare.
Make sure you're up to date. The most recent stable release is 1.4 (not 1.4b).
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Ok, but when does it trash what you mark as junk? I mean, when I mark a message as junk, and then choose "Run junk mail controls on selected folder", it sometimes unmarks that message as junk, and does nothing more. (I may be running 1.3x, can't check ATM, as I'm not home).
And do Bayesian filters need you to keep junk mails in a folder so that they can build their database of bad words from that?
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If you go to Tools->Junk Mail Controls, you'll see something like this (this is 1.3, that's what I've got on this particular machine for various historical reasons):
(http://home.nc.rr.com/mikhael/junk.jpg)
That should pretty much get you to where you need to be. :)
No you don't need to keep you junk folder populated. The filter list is kept in one of the various files in your Mozilla directory for your user profile, so its pretty safe to delete them after you've decided they're junk.
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Right, I've gone through all that numerous times... I'm the kinda guy who goes to an apps Options menu before the File > New, if you know what I mean. But that still doesn't explain this:
Originally posted by Sandwich
...when I mark a message as junk, and then choose "Run junk mail controls on selected folder", it sometimes unmarks that message as junk, and does nothing more...
:confused:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Right, I've gone through all that numerous times... I'm the kinda guy who goes to an apps Options menu before the File > New, if you know what I mean. But that still doesn't explain this:
:confused:
I've never seen the behaviour you mentioned, Sandwich.