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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Corsair on July 21, 2003, 10:45:55 pm
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I'm here...not for long but I'm making an appearance. I just wanted to show you guys something interesting that is an ABSOLUTELY GREAT program. for real. And seeing as how much is currently going on in the world i thought you might find it sort of...different.
go here (http://www.seedsofpeace.org)
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Originally posted by an0n
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same here
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Wow, I'm sure if the Israelis really just got to meet the Palestinians face-to-face, and vice versa... Oh, wait, they live just across the street from each other in Jerusalem.
Well, I'm sure if the Congolese got to know the people they were killing... what's that? Lots of those guys destroyed their own villages and hacked their neighbors to bits with machetes? Huh. Funny, that.
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Originally posted by an0n
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wow an0n, didn't think you'd take the time to do a whole color-coded post... especially for someone you've just lost respect for :doubt:
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awww screw you an0n. you wouldn't know a truly good thing if it came up and bit you in the ass. just because you like watching other people blow the **** out of each other doesn't mean that they actually enjoy it. and most of them aren't from jerusalem. and it isn't exactly a fifteen-year-old's fault if he can't go from his home in tel aviv to see what people are like in jericho. and exactly when do you expect jordanians/yemenis/egyptians/morrocans to meet the people who they're educated to hate??
dumbass.
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Who would those be?
My, and the entire populace is bloodthirsty hatemongers now, eh? Not like out here, where a few hundred outspoken assholes tend to invalidate the opinions of a couple million others as far as the way others see us. See, out there they're... different from us. Don't have that white man's capacity for reason, so when someone tells them "the Jews are all evil ****s", they just accept it. Which is, incidentially, why this program to spend millions of dollars to tell them "some Jews are not evil ****s" works. At least it ensures that some 5 kids are not going to be members of Hamas or Hezbollah. Maybe.
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I think this is a nice thing to do, but I doubt it will help THAT much.
Still, helping some people makes it worth it.:yes:
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if you think that then you're as stupid as an0n. you obviously have almost no idea what the hell you're talking about and you have also obviously never met a kid from there.
for one thing, being jewish has absolutely nothing to do with it. what about arab-israelis??
at any rate, this is so that when these kids grow up they can try to fix all the screwups that the adults of the world made. cuz quite honestly, ya'll suck. and i'll bet you anything that almost none of those kids go into hamas, hezbollah, or any other organization like that. some may but most won't. i guarantee you.
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Ah yes, kids rule, moldy old grownups suck.
Shall I enlighten you as to what became of the Flower Children? The activists who very nearly saved America in the 60s? Oh, they're still around- you probably saw one on the street corner today, wearing a tie and talking about the "realities of the modern market" into his cell phone.
Honestly, you people have been fed so much proactive commercialized pap you're almost beyond saving.
I mean, think about what you're saying here. These- what? One dozen kids? Maybe two? - are, as Palestinians and Israelis (who, of course, aren't Jews, at least according to your previous post), naturally on their way towards becoming Hamas and warmongers (never mind that both make up tiny tiny portions of the populace- they're foreigners, they're all the same! And, while you're at it, never mind that the project would go out of its way to avoid picking actually bigoted kids of the sort who will become murderers, 'cos they'd attack each other in the camp and make the project look bad- hence no more money), because that's what those durn foreigners do. So you take this tiny tiny portion of the populace- as I said, a few dozen- ship them off to a nice vacation on the Atlantic, and feed them the same garbage about diversity making the world go around and getting along and everyone being a special snowflake that doesn't work on American kids.
Brilliant.
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This is like the big FS community project though. I bet these kinds of things have been tried thousands of times throughout the course of human history, but obviously they don't work since wars still take place; such simplistic things as this are certainly not going to put any end to wars even temporarily (which might not even be desirable at any rate). Those kids who have already been taught to fight will continue to do so regardless of any further "education" and the rest are already okay. The best thing is to let everyone fight as they please and worry about better things. :D
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Such as what happens when they score a nuke?
Or, really, what happens when I score a nuke, for that matter. That sort of power is meant to be abused.
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And I think we all know that this is NOT our best hope for peace. This is (http://www.robalfieri.com/thejumpgate/babylon5/images/station3.gif) (well, up until season 4 anyway).
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Originally posted by Corsair
when these kids grow up they can try to fix all the screwups that the adults of the world made.
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All I have to add is this:
Mr Gallup said the findings may also apply to women who engage in unprotected oral sex and people who engage in anal sex. But he said further research was needed in these areas.
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Originally posted by Stealth
wow an0n, didn't think you'd take the time to do a whole color-coded post... especially for someone you've just lost respect for :doubt:
My 1337-5k1llz allow me to do in mere hours, what would take a normal human days.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
All I have to add is this:Mr Gallup said the findings may also apply to women who engage in unprotected oral sex and people who engage in anal sex. But he said further research was needed in these areas.
ROFL :lol: :p
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Sounds like a program for artificial wombs or a repository for sperm ;)
Now, seriously... how is trying to create super-empathic, vegetables actually advantageous to movements to get rid of the current oppressive world? These kids won't end up being super saviors you look forward to, they'll probably end up being comfortable, nice, fathers and mothers. Who'll be aloof/numb to "screwups that the adults of the world made" in their happy, simple existences.
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...but than again, we need a program to counter the KKK for Kids (http://www.kkk.com/just_for_kids.htm) :lol:
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Not only does the KKK have insane religious morons in it, it has bad html coders.....
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well, how much html do you expect a guy who lives in kansas in the shed behind the trailer shared by his fourteen brothers and their sisters/wifes to know?
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See, back in the day, the Klan was a powerful, feared and wide-spread organisation. Something to be proud of.
Now it's just a bunch of rednecks *****ing about their right to bear arms and kill niggers.
They're a ****ing joke.
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Originally posted by an0n
Now it's just a bunch of rednecks *****ing about their right to bear arms and kill niggers.
They always were. Now there's just less of them.
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When are you people going to see that there never will be peace unless we evolve to some sort of pascifist beings... There has been war/fights since the dawn of mankind. For thousands of years there have been wars and never have they stopped. You know why? Because we are different. And we are so ignorant that we do not accept those who are different. We either need to destroy or subdue them before its settled. Its the way of life guys, face it... The human race is too stupid for peace.
Hell, we now even created the power to destroy our own damn world because certain cultures are different and want to wipe eachother of the face of the Earth.
With this program you teach children to live in peace. But whatever you do they still have their own religion/way of life/etc. And because of that there will always be someone who hates/despises them.
World peace 1). Must either be enforced (but then it wouldn't really be peace) 2). Or every single human being on this Earth must die and there will be peace...
Sad, but true...
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If it were only that, Tiara, there would be much less war. Don't forget the historical number one cause for war: stuff. i.e. land, money, ect
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Originally posted by Carl
If it were only that, Tiara, there would be much less war. Don't forget the historical number one cause for war: stuff. i.e. land, money, ect
True... But in the end its all the same... We are a dumbass race who is hell bend on self-destruction.
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Originally posted by Tiara
True... But in the end its all the same... We are a dumbass race who is hell bend on self-destruction.
Not really. Most wars historically have been over resources, Spain built its empire out of its greed for gold, Romans had similar reasons.
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That KKK page was truly, breathtakingly ignorant. Somebody please reassure me that this lot area very, very small minority.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
That KKK page was truly, breathtakingly ignorant. Somebody please reassure me that this lot area very, very small minority.
Unfortunately we life in a world full of ignorant people. :doubt:
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I like the way no names were named there, vyper ;7
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[color=66ff00]:lol: Some people just can't ignore something they don't agree with.
A bit more positive criticism would be a better way of replying to the idea suggested, but that would be too easy wouldn't it....
:rolleyes: :blah:
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I need to learn to drive so I can run hippies over
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I need to learn to drive so I can run hippies over
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
That KKK page was truly, breathtakingly ignorant. Somebody please reassure me that this lot area very, very small minority.
I think it's written to try to sound "nice" and "convincing" to little kids, notice all the "I'm sure your teachers are very nice people" stuff?
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Well that website was a load of ****. People's make war. Period. The Israelis want to kill and so do the Palestinians. That's why the whole things is a cluster****.
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I agree with Tiara... it is mankind's incessent desire for more that causes this suffering. Whether it be more resources, more believers-in-their-religion, more people to agree with them, WHATEVER... I bet you can trace all wars to boil down to some form of desire.
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Originally posted by Falcon X
Well that website was a load of ****. People's make war. Period. The Israelis want to kill and so do the Palestinians. That's why the whole things is a cluster****.
Yep, gotta looove 'dem generalizations.
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Can...Can't we all just get along? R. King
So long as there are men there will be wars. A. Einstien
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. Roman Traditional
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. J.S. Mill
I love the smell of Napalm in the morning! Apocalypse Now
All men are brothers, like the seas throughout the world; So why do winds and waves clash so fiercely everywhere? Hirohito
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. G. Orwell
BTW
I found this while I was looking for the mill quote:
They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist...
- General John Sedgwick, (1813-1864)
Best... last words... Ever!
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You know, despite being a series about a war, S:AAB tries to illustrate that the killing is pointless. A young soldier dies, and for what? It's all rather sad really.