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Title: Thor said to post this here?
Post by: Taristin on June 28, 2003, 01:37:47 pm: (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/Merrimacweb.jpg)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Solatar on June 28, 2003, 02:54:33 pm: Not sure why. If it's derived from the Hercules, it doesn't belong in the TVWar.

Excellent concept though.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Thor on June 28, 2003, 02:55:21 pm: good boy.

Do you think we could use something like this? Maybe Raa, if hes willing, could wip up some more.

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Solatar
Not sure why. If it's derived from the Hercules, it doesn't belong in the TVWar.

You're not thinking creatively buddy. It looks the part, so we can make it fit. Maybe the same company developed both, this one FIRST (maybe). I personally think it would fit excellently into an early periode of the war, not the beginning, but that side of the middle. The design elements where succesful, so the Hercules was made, incorporating elements like the cockpit, the belly fin, etc. See, if you want me to prove it, I'm sure I could write a convincing tech description. Just judge it on its appropriateness of design. If we think the design is suitable, than I'd like to see it in. Thats why I wanted it in here, so we could admire its coolness and see if it would work.

Thoughts folks? (You too Raa)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on June 28, 2003, 03:27:22 pm: Excellent! Nice to see that someone other than me is searching for model ideas. ;)

Certainly, by all means let's add it. Like Thor said, it might make sense coming shortly before the middle of the TVW.

Now all we need is a modeller. But let's wait until the Chapter 1 ships are finished first. :)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Solatar on June 28, 2003, 03:37:48 pm: Alright, as long as Raa wants to, I don't have a problem putting it in.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on June 28, 2003, 06:20:36 pm: Actually, you don't know how [don't sound lame... don't sound lame...] exciting [d'oh] it is to have interest in my drawings like this. :)

I'll see about trying to make more sketches, but most things usually end up funny looking.

The thing is, I think the great war ships had a more here and now touch. We were thinking we were the best, and then we had a vastly superior enemy to try and kill us... blah blah blah...

I think the ship should be slow, and fairly heavily armored, like the Amun...

I think I may have some more designs out there in my book, I'll check t'morrow.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on June 28, 2003, 11:20:15 pm: Yay - you quoted the TVWP website! :lol:

Yes - we love concept sketches. :nod: This way, our modellers won't have to think up something from scratch. Don't worry about funny-looking... we can use those for the Vasudan ships. :D
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on June 29, 2003, 06:31:04 pm: I had to quote it. When I read that I let out a loud 'HAHA!' that I shocked myself...

I did come up with something, but I have to find my scanner, it's still packed in a box from when I moved here a month ago...
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Thor on June 30, 2003, 06:32:52 pm: Maybe we should give him an avatar just for the quote;)

or maybe for being a concept artist. Can't wait to see what you have next.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on June 30, 2003, 07:32:50 pm: I tend to make things look like hercs, so I'm going to one day sit in front of the PC and steal design elements from all of the other V concepts. :)

I do have another somewhere, and for once it is symmetrical :)
Title: You asked for more concept drawings?
Post by: Taristin on July 13, 2003, 09:19:57 pm: These are simple sketches I made at my grandmother's house in the free time I had away from my screaming cousins.

They're not the best, just little "5 minuters"... I'm not very good with perspective, so bear with what they look like.

I've a few in my drawing book. One day I'll take it out of the trunk of my car and scan them too.

(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/tvwpconcept.jpg)
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/tvwpconcept2.jpg)

EDIT: LVLSHOTted // Goober5000
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on July 14, 2003, 12:46:12 pm: Good stuff. :yes: But #2 kinda looks like the Medusa.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 14, 2003, 01:48:38 pm: Yeah, kind of a Medusa - Athena combo...
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Galemp on July 15, 2003, 03:46:35 pm: I kind of like #1. I can see it as a super-heavy assault fighter, like the Ares. Asymmetrical weapons placement and three secondary banks would make it an interesting and unique fighter. It will need some excellent texturing to do it justice, though.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 15, 2003, 08:23:02 pm: By all means... Go ahead. :) I can't really help you with model creation (I'm sure you've seen my last model. :p) or textures (I'm more of a 'tweak the originals' kinda guy) but... I'll be there for moral support. :)
Title: Need a vas ship idea?
Post by: Taristin on July 22, 2003, 07:57:13 pm: It's certainly not the best looking vassy ship, but it doesn't look terran, and I'm sure with some work you could screw with it and make it look more canon.

(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/vasship.jpg)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Solatar on July 22, 2003, 08:01:43 pm: Very nice, I like it.:yes:
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on July 22, 2003, 08:55:21 pm: :wtf:

It looks like a sideways flower. Definitely needs some messing with. :)

[merged with the other thread]
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 23, 2003, 08:20:05 pm: Well, I don't see the flower resemblance, but if oyu do, ok. lol

And I didn't know you could merge threads, that's handy...

Anyway. Good luck with the model. I think I have a Terran cruiser idea somewhere, but I dunno how FS Era it is...

Gimme a few minutes and I'll up it.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 23, 2003, 08:44:09 pm: (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/parapet.jpg)
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/strikec.jpg)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Trivial Psychic on July 23, 2003, 11:20:53 pm: Here's one for ya to try and make... I assume that later campaign segments towards and into the T-V war will include the Angel scout fighter, referenced when the Valkyrie is introduced in FS1. Try to make a Valkyrie-based fighter with only two engines, two primary weapons bays, and try to make it look a little less refined than the Valkyrie.

Later!
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on July 23, 2003, 11:23:11 pm: Someone in the community (I think Venom) has already done this, and we plan to use it. But thanks for the suggestion. :)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 25, 2003, 08:51:35 pm: No comments?
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Solatar on July 25, 2003, 11:10:05 pm: I like everything you've done so far.:yes:
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 26, 2003, 07:44:26 am: You know, I realized I have no light assault, or recon fighters... I'll have to draw some one day.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Thor on July 26, 2003, 10:10:01 am: A really like them.:yes:
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on July 26, 2003, 02:09:31 pm: Definitely some nice work there, RT. :yes:
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 26, 2003, 04:53:44 pm: Ok, I'll shut up now.:o
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Flaser on July 27, 2003, 04:30:47 am: If this guy keeps pouting out concept pics like that, than I would really consider giving him more access if I were an admin.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on July 27, 2003, 12:20:21 pm: Well,
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Originally posted by Goober5000
...Raa Tor'h, you seem particularly interested. Do you want to join? If you can model or texture, we'll hire you in a heartbeat. :D
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
I would, but I'm not particularly good at modelling.

Perhaps I should be more open-ended. Raa Tor'h, do you want to join the staff as a concept artist?

If you can FRED, that would be a bonus too. ;)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 27, 2003, 05:14:10 pm: You, know... I'd like to. I only hope I can keep pumping out concepts like that. Capships and the like are harder to visualize. Especially FS1 style. So if I can do more, I'll help.

:nods:

Edit: oh, and I do know how to use FRED and can experiment with sexps to get the effects I want. I made a mission that's in the Volitionwatch Archives called "Jeannenairre." The mission executes well, but the player is drastically outgunned. Well, that and I hadn't had my nodemap handy, so I started naming systems off the top of my head. :p
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on July 27, 2003, 06:00:51 pm: Okeydokey - sending join request to the admins now. We should be ready to start FREDding quite soon.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on July 27, 2003, 06:21:36 pm: w00t.

(http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/otn/realhappy/yl2jump.gif)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Woolie Wool on July 29, 2003, 01:10:10 pm: That last bomber you made reminds me of a Loki.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Sandwich on August 26, 2003, 05:37:34 am: Yeah, I'm shamelessly bumping another thread here, so sue me. :p

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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/strikec.jpg)

Sni-Raa... (;)), that is amazing. Finally an old-looking cruiser that makes the Fenris design look modern, without looking like anything else at the same time! :p :yes:
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Flaser on August 26, 2003, 11:48:55 am: Except Inferno.... :doubt:

It wouldn't be the first ship to be so, still it's pretty much like a EA cruiser.
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on August 26, 2003, 02:02:30 pm: Why? Because it's a genuinely terran design?
Title: Concept Art
Post by: gevatter Lars on August 29, 2003, 01:25:00 pm: I have tried to make the Merrimac...its not exactly what it looks like on the pic, but thats because the views where different...beside that I don't have the abilities to do it as I want.

Try to upload two pics....showing a more detailed version that is surly not for ingame use...well that could be changed....I hope.

(http://gevatterlars.4t.com/images/merrimac_high.jpg)
(http://gevatterlars.4t.com/images/merrimac_high2.jpg)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on August 29, 2003, 02:29:08 pm: Wow! Excellent. :yes: With a little more detail, it could easily work nicely as a model. :nod:
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Thor on August 29, 2003, 03:39:01 pm: Excellent!:drevil:
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Woolie Wool on August 29, 2003, 04:16:32 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Goober5000
Wow! Excellent. :yes: With a little more detail, it could easily work nicely as a model. :nod:

Some places might need a little LESS detail. He said it has 6002 polys!
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Taristin on August 29, 2003, 04:36:51 pm: Like I said, Very sweet. I'm a bit flattered you made it. :)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: Goober5000 on August 29, 2003, 04:50:12 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Woolie Wool
Some places might need a little LESS detail. He said it has 6002 polys!

Right, the grilles in the front, which can be done with texturing. But putting in an engine winglet or two wouldn't hurt. :)
Title: Concept Art
Post by: gevatter Lars on August 29, 2003, 06:00:54 pm: I will thing about the wingy thingy something on the side...beside that.....I think its the best when we discuss this in the Modding formum only...makes things much more simple.