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Post by: Knight Templar on July 23, 2003, 03:28:49 am

http://www.sgnonline.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=30

First Off, I would like to ask why I have never even seen the place before accidentally stumbling over a news post on some armada news website.

Secondly, I think a friendly forum invasion is due, or at least just let them know we know they are alive. :)

Seriously, this is the best and closest bet we have with a FS RTS, check it out at least.

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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on July 23, 2003, 03:39:11 am

Ooooh. This calls for further investigation.

And a banana.

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Post by: RangerKarl on July 23, 2003, 03:40:31 am

/me readies provisions for expedition.

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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on July 23, 2003, 03:48:21 am

Is that our Black Wolf there?

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Post by: RangerKarl on July 23, 2003, 03:53:15 am

I was wondering the same thing.

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Post by: Black Wolf on July 23, 2003, 07:24:12 am

Tis me, but I didn't get answered, so I asuumed the forum/project was dead.

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Post by: DeepSpace9er on July 23, 2003, 12:52:29 pm

That mod is for Armada II? All i have is the stupid demo :(

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Post by: Drew on July 23, 2003, 04:09:02 pm

hmmz
now i have a reason to keep that crap POS called armada2
:)

err id think youd have to do some revamping to the Armada code or core files, i dont think cap ships in armada fire at more than one target....

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Post by: CP5670 on July 23, 2003, 06:26:15 pm

Solid Snake posted some screenshots of this around here many months ago, if any of you remember. It looked very impressive, but I didn't know the project was still alive until now.

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Post by: Drew on July 23, 2003, 07:49:18 pm

i have the freaking game :( so if you can help me figure out how to port all the modeles over im willing....

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Post by: Sesquipedalian on July 24, 2003, 07:56:38 pm

Download POF Constructor Suite from https://sourceforge.net/projects/alliance, Drew.  It can convert the POF models into COB format (Caligari Object format) for use in Truespace.

If you want to convert from COB to some other format (e.g. 3DS for use in 3ds max), 3d Exploration (http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/3dactionplanet/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/3dexplor.zip) is a great little program to convert between formats.  Get the models into some industry standard format, and you can probably convert them into an Armada specific format using your tools.

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Post by: vyper on July 24, 2003, 08:14:19 pm

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Is that our Black Wolf there?

More to the point: http://www.sgnonline.com/vb/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=1 - is this... our Venom? :wtf:

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Post by: Krackers87 on July 24, 2003, 09:18:34 pm

that would be quite impressive. A mod on 2 major sites

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Post by: phreak on July 24, 2003, 10:00:32 pm

alter-Venom's birthday is June 22, 1983.  that puts him just over 20.  i think our Venom is older than that

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Post by: Drew on July 25, 2003, 12:17:00 am

great i get to the site and just as im about to dload the file its shuts down for mantinece :(

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Post by: Drew on July 25, 2003, 12:55:47 am

thnx BTW :)

erm u think someon could help me out or explain this in a bit more detail?

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Post by: Sesquipedalian on July 25, 2003, 09:09:27 am

Oh, right, I forgot to mention VPView to you, Drew.  You will need that before PCS will ba aby good to you.  Learn about VPView in Karajorma's FreeSpace FAQ (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/intro.html).  Use it to extract the POF files from sparky_fs2.vp.

Then launch PCS and open a POF file in it.  On the Conversion menu, choose POF to COB.  It will save the model in .cob format.

Then launch 3D Exploration, open the .cob and save it in whatever format you wish.

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Post by: Hippo on July 25, 2003, 09:42:21 am

I say we invade and asimilate them all to HLPers... :nervous: *finds Shrike's sig*

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Post by: karajorma on July 25, 2003, 09:55:39 am

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Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Oh, right, I forgot to mention VPView to you, Drew.  You will need that before PCS will ba aby good to you.  Learn about VPView in Karajorma's FreeSpace FAQ (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/freespace/intro.html).  Use it to extract the POF files from sparky_fs2.vp.

Actually if I want to extract a pof from a .vp file I tend to use Modelview rather than VPView because it allows you to have a look at all the ships rather than having to figure out which filename they are saved under from the ships.tbl. Once you hit the pof-edit button you'll be given the option to save the pof.

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Post by: Drew on July 25, 2003, 10:18:17 am

Quote from: "Sesquipedalian"

Oh, right, I forgot to mention VPView to you, Drew. You will need that before PCS will ba aby good to you. Learn about VPView in Karajorma's FreeSpace FAQ. Use it to extract the POF files from sparky_fs2.vp.

i knew that i needed VPveiw ive been playing around with those for years :D
the thing i cant figure out is y 3d exploration wont open .cob files, i try to but its not a filetype it supports..... (unless im missing somthing)

Quote from: "karajorma"

Actually if I want to extract a pof from a .vp file I tend to use Modelview rather than VPView because it allows you to have a look at all the ships rather than having to figure out which filename they are saved under from the ships.tbl. Once you hit the pof-edit button you'll be given the option to save the pof.

well i just extracted all the models to 1 dir.........


last question, Truespace wont open .pcx files as textures must i convert them to bitmap first?

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Post by: karajorma on July 25, 2003, 10:21:40 am

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Originally posted by Drew
well i just extracted all the models to 1 dir.........


last question, Truespace wont open .pcx files as textures must i convert them to bitmap first?

Yep. BMP or some other file your 3D program understands. Irfanview's batch converter is probably the easiest free tool you can use for this although PSP and photoshop will be able to do it too.

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Post by: Drew on July 25, 2003, 11:54:49 am

Armada 2 uses a wierd fromat (.odf) any idea how to get my models into that?

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Post by: diamondgeezer on July 25, 2003, 11:56:50 am

You'd be better off asking at an Armada forum methinks :nod:

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Post by: Drew on July 25, 2003, 12:35:28 pm

no one is there, i am willing to revive the mod as it looks simple once i figure out where stryker left off.....

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Post by: Star Dragon on July 25, 2003, 04:11:08 pm

The Format .ODF I believe is the individual ship table. Instead of one huge table each ship has it's own entry (called an ODF file) text format.

The actual MODEL is in SOD format I think GMAX, 3DS (since it's not free I don't have that)... Some Unwrappers and Milkshake support SOD format. Main problem is getting SODS exported to .cobs!!  I have never gotted an Armada2 ship into freespae except for the ones Little Ludi converted over at Freespace2Sector (bless his German Heart!).  There is a completed Homeworld FS2 mod... (I kept the Hades for a low poly long range view that actually uses a model) so I can make a scene of mass Hades Destruction without taxking my system greatly! ;)

Forgot URL but off main homeworld site it is JTS online try RELIC (UK) board... As for solid snake I chatted with him a little over at ArmadaII files.com  and SGN, Seems like an interesting project, but I'm all RTS-outted. Once I finish ArmadaII I won't be modding it, Like I retired BOTF, I played all the races and then added the dominion mod and played them all again to beat the dominion and retired my CD's... FS2 Forever! (ok maybe not , but definately for a loooooong time still!)

Title: Re: Armada2 files
Post by: Drew on July 25, 2003, 04:32:34 pm

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Originally posted by Star Dragon


Forgot URL but off main homeworld site it is JTS online try RELIC (UK) board... As for solid snake I chatted with him a little over at ArmadaII files.com  and SGN, Seems like an interesting project, but I'm all RTS-outted. Once I finish ArmadaII I won't be modding it, Like I retired BOTF, I played all the races and then added the dominion mod and played them all again to beat the dominion and retired my CD's... FS2 Forever! (ok maybe not , but definately for a loooooong time still!) [/B]

yeah regular armada is a really boring game...... they never really used the engine to its full potential.........

thanx for your help i think i figured it out know :D

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Post by: Drew on July 26, 2003, 02:00:13 pm

kewl  i just loaded a Hecate in place of a Galaxy class ingame :D
no textures for the hecate yet :\
and i still need to figure out how to make correct "tables"....
so right now im stuck with a hecate moving on its side with no guns :(

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Post by: galonrever on August 06, 2003, 05:04:14 am

Hey drew, if u want, u can help me. Im trying to revive the mod. i can handle odf's (just :rolleyes: ) if u can do the models and stuff

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Post by: Flipside on August 06, 2003, 11:26:59 am

Hmmmm... so we have a strange unknown outpost on the edge of known space that was working on technologies never before seen by the GTVA. And now the crew have gawn and done a Marie Celeste!
Sounds like a Fan Fiction in the making to me ;) hehehehehehe

Flipside :D

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Post by: Nico on August 06, 2003, 11:36:50 am

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Originally posted by PhReAk
alter-Venom's birthday is June 22, 1983.  that puts him just over 20.  i think our Venom is older than that

not me, but it wasn't so far. 2 years and 3 days :p