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Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: TheVirtu on July 31, 2003, 11:11:11 pm
Today my computer started to act extremely weird and I began to suspect a virus. Sure enough I got a virus scan and sure enough...there it was, two copies of a Java Applet worm. Nasty stuff. I did get to delete it though.

Curse you hackers! :mad:


What I had: http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=JAVA_BYTVERIFY.A
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 31, 2003, 11:13:58 pm
A java virus.


Terrifying.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: demon442 on July 31, 2003, 11:14:09 pm
It happens to us all, well except me...:nervous:

What virus scan are you using?
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Admiral LSD on July 31, 2003, 11:19:19 pm
If that's the MS Java VM vulnerability I'm thinking of then it was discovered and patched nearly two years ago now, do you understand the concept of Windows Update Hotfixes Virtu or are you one of those dumb ****s who are too scared to use it?
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: an0n on July 31, 2003, 11:34:23 pm
*would point out that the correct term is 'crackers' but doubts anyone would care or remember*
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 31, 2003, 11:37:12 pm
So? Too many hackers work for the NSA or large corporations for me for one to worry about insulting their name.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: TheVirtu on July 31, 2003, 11:40:12 pm
First off, impressive usage of insults Admiral LSD...I'm sure your mommy loves you for your skills.

Interestingly enough, I update my Windows at least every month, and yes, I know how terrifying it was...it annoyed the crap out of me for the two hours it took me to find it and finally delete it.....my keyboard was possesed.

@demon442: I use some online virus scan that my ISP recommends called HouseCall, it can be found at the same site I got that virus info from.


Anyway, this is a virus that was first noticed on May 24th of this year.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Admiral LSD on August 01, 2003, 12:02:55 am
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Originally posted by TheVirtu
First off, impressive usage of insults Admiral LSD...I'm sure your mommy loves you for your skills.

Interestingly enough, I update my Windows at least every month, and yes, I know how terrifying it was...it annoyed the crap out of me for the two hours it took me to find it and finally delete it.....my keyboard was possesed.


That's not what I meant, there is a group of people out there who won't touch stuff like Windows Update with a ten foot pole becuase they're under the mistaken impression they have some semblance of privacy on the internet and are afraid of letting even the tiniest bit of info leave their comps. These people are idiots and we'd be doing the gene pool a favour if we rounded them up and systematcially kill them all and their kids, if they've had any.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Stryke 9 on August 01, 2003, 12:03:57 am
Gates is working on that.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Fury on August 01, 2003, 07:02:42 am
And yet I can only wonder why people don't properly protect their systems from hackers, crackers, viruses, trojans, etc, etc.

There's many good free firewalls and anti-virus softwares out there. Some webpage based virus checker is hardly enough.

A good firewall is Sygate Personal Firewall (standard version) and a good anti-virus is avast! 4 Home Edition.

And I agree with Admiral LSD. People are just utterly paranoid about everything. Which is plain stupid. Little paranoia does not hurt as it will make you avoid possibly malicious sites and such, but when you find yourselves checking your pants for possible gps trackers, you've got a problem.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: TheVirtu on August 01, 2003, 09:43:26 am
I have Zone Alarm but it just seems to mess up things so I barely ever use it.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Nuclear1 on August 01, 2003, 10:02:14 am
I'm so pretty... oh so pretty...

*hic*

*passes out*
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Stealth on August 01, 2003, 10:15:24 am
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Originally posted by TheVirtu
I have Zone Alarm but it just seems to mess up things so I barely ever use it.


it's never given me any problems.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: karajorma on August 01, 2003, 10:30:36 am
I use Zone Alarm Pro on my main computer and Zone Alarm on all the others. Haven't had any problem with it for ages (and the one problem I did have was fixed in an update about a week after I reported it).

What problems have you had with it?
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Stryke 9 on August 01, 2003, 11:12:41 am
Personally, I'm with nuclear1 on this issue.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: TheVirtu on August 01, 2003, 02:57:38 pm
I have a very pathetic system and I cant seem to afford to lose any more system resources than I already do with the games I play. Plus I'm 33.6 for crying out loud :)
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: demon442 on August 01, 2003, 11:09:11 pm
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Originally posted by TheVirtu
I have a very pathetic system and I cant seem to afford to lose any more system resources than I already do with the games I play. Plus I'm 33.6 for crying out loud :)


Gah...

Well first off, 56K modems arent but $20 here in the US.  Second, RAM isnt but $70 for a 256 DDR stick.  Third, www.grisoft.com has a very good antivirus that works wonders if you keep it updated and dont do anything stupid.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Taristin on August 02, 2003, 07:43:17 am
DDR? My stupid PC used DIMM... *kicks it*

...and no. I don't know the difference other than the extra line in the DIMM. Dunno if I care either. lol
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Admiral LSD on August 02, 2003, 10:30:40 am
DDR SDRAM can handle data transfer on both the rising and falling edges of a clock pulse making it roughly twice as fast as regular SDRAM at any give bus frequency.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: mikhael on August 02, 2003, 07:06:57 pm
Let me see if I can remember the last time I had a virus... um...

oh that's right. On my personal system, I've never had anything more complex than win32.concept (oh, the memories). How do you lot keep getting viruses on your machines? Dodging viruses isn't that difficult.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Kamikaze on August 03, 2003, 06:03:52 pm
*has never had a virus in his lifetime*
even though I don't use a virus scanner

why? Because:

I very rarely hand out my main email address
I don't use IE
I don't use Outlook
I am skeptical/careful

oh and the last one is: I don't use windows (though I used mainly windows and Mac OS for the first 13 or so years of my life so this doesn't really matter)


I think rather than cursing viruses you all need to lock up your compters and take precautions. (Same with keeping crackers away)
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Fury on August 04, 2003, 02:31:12 am
Kamikaze, I wonder how you know that you haven't had any viruses or trojans if you don't use virus scanner. :) It might very well be that you just haven't noticed any. Viruses are usually noticed but trojans may not be.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Kamikaze on August 04, 2003, 03:06:56 am
It is possible, but highly unlikely. I didn't notice any odd files, or behavior that would be virus induced. As far as I know there are very few web browser exploits for non-IE browsers, and there's nothing to make me believe any non-IE browser actually fetched a virus from somewhere. I also used a mail program that didn't (as far as I know) activate anything in a mail file unless told to (text only iirc). I've only opened an attachment one or three times in my life. I also usually do research on a piece of software before downloading and installing.

I also should indicate that I don't regularly use a virus scanner (don't have one installed right now) but I have scanned a few times in the past (I had one installed back when I ran windows, though it was just sitting in disuse), and never found a virus (yeah, it wasn't frequent enough to be 100% sure).

Right now I'm sure I don't have a virus as I'm running linux (being rather careful about security), a virus scanner probably won't be needed.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: Fury on August 04, 2003, 05:10:43 am
You do as you like. :) But it is always better be safe than sorry.
Title: Stupid Viruses!
Post by: karajorma on August 04, 2003, 06:00:01 am
Put up a good firewall and never run suspect exe files and you really don't have much to worry about.

That said it is better to have a virus checker running.