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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Petrarch of the VBB on August 09, 2003, 03:59:36 am
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SiSoft Sandre tells me:
< Temperature Sensor(s) >
Board Temperature: 42.0°C / 107.6°F
CPU Temperature: 62.0°C / 143.6°F
Power / Aux Temperature: 77.0°C / 170.6°F
No good can come of this.
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Whats the temp in your computer room, outside the case?
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Ouch. Not as ouch as it could be, but definitely, ah, replace your heatsink fans, dude. It looks like it's mostly emanating from the PSU, so check there first.
Actually, you know what really works? Try getting a setup with heat pipes. They're expensive, but I've been trying them on a box that should be, by all rights, running those temperatures at minimum and it's doing fine.
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Sisoft Sandra may not always tell you the correct temps, you should check the temps from system BIOS if there is such a feature available.
Besides, as you probably know. Temperatures are system specific, if you have two or more fast hard drives in you system, it will rise system temps nicely. You should also check if you case has something blocking the air flow.
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...causing the temperature to spike 70* around the power supply?
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It could be a "ghost" reading that Sandra is just assuming belongs to the power supply temp sensor.
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mines at 38 :/ CPU :p
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I'd suspect if it was a ghost the reading wouldn't carry through to the others in a fashion that indicates the physical layout of the sensors. On most standard tower layouts (dunno about those sideways things, they're just built wrong all around), the power supply is below and behind the motherboard, the CPU is towards the middle back of the board, and the mobo sensor is furthest from the PSU. If it was blocked ventilation, the air would have stagnated and temperatures would be similar all around. Even money it's a bad power supply fan.
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Hmm. I'll check what the BIOS has to say next time I restart.
Heat pipes, eh, Stryke? Can I have some more info?
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What sort of motherboard do you have? Does it have any kind of monitoring software included? Check the temps with that first as it's the only sure way you'll know what each of those temps actually represents. I have a feeling your 77C temp may be the internal CPU diode with the 62C temp being an under chip thermistor (for CPUs that lack an internal monitoring diode) and the 42C temp being a sensor toward the bottom of the board. There are no standards when it comes to motherboard sensors so I wouldn't take what any third party utility says at face value.
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Right. The BIOS is reporting a CPU temp of 63 and a system temp of 44.
As for the type of mobo, I'll try and dig up the manual.
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My pc is a bit hoter because my room temp. is : 32°C and the temp. out of my flat is in the sahdow 38°C its so hot here :sigh:
Board Temp.: 37°C
CPU Temp.: 69°C
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its hardly surprising FT, you DO live 'in the apocalypse'
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yeah its realy the apocalypse....no its germany but in the whole europe is it this year extrem hot so my pc feel that too :p
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yeah, my room stays at about 30 deg C all the time (when the PCs are on) but my main comp has 20 fans in it so... its noisy aswell:nod:
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heh, my system sits at 40-55 deg c. around summer... :D
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FT, if the outside temperature is 32C and your computer temp (is that at idle or under load) is 69C then you should seriously investigate some decent cooling. Let me guess, you're using the stock cooler that came with the CPU?
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No i use an thermaright with copper and its under load 69°C in idle approx. 55°C
EDIT: but i need an better cooler any ideas what for one ? they must be silence not so loud
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Originally posted by FreeTerran
No i use an thermaright with copper and its under load 69°C in idle approx. 55°C
you could have my problem... my chassi is too small (or my PSU is too big), so the air doesn't went properly. as it is, the case is open which gives about 55-60C under normal load. if I close it up or the chassi fan is moved, the temperature rises to 70+ (which makes it reboot, due to my bios settings)...
I think I'm gonna get a mini-itx system and use that as primary comp instead. easier to cool.
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EDIT: but i need an better cooler any ideas what for one ? they must be silence not so loud
but your computer to Freezer;)
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Temp sensors? Heh, what a fantastic topic.
Say, I take the readings from BIOS, a 3rd party utility and a mobo manufacturer tool..
..so all three give different results - not just the normal mixup between the sensors, but all figures are significantly different, too.
Now how complex/ambiguous an interface can a simple temp sensor show out? :wtf:
The only thing that works is to ignore all three :blah:
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Originally posted by FreeTerran
No i use an thermaright with copper and its under load 69°C in idle approx. 55°C
EDIT: but i need an better cooler any ideas what for one ? they must be silence not so loud
The ThermalRight HSFs are supposed to be quite good so I'd keep that and instead look at first of all airflow as kode suggested then what you're using between the HSF and the CPU. If it isn't Arctic Silver of some kind then get some AS3 and apply that as per the instructions on http://www.arcticsilver.com. My temps for my 2400+ are between 35 and 38 at idel, rising to 42 (but the temperature around here doesn't even reach 30 here atm seeing as it's winter so you're results will be different) under load and I'm only using a Thermaltake Volcano 9.
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My Athlon XP 1700+ used to idle at about 60C. Last christmas I forked out for a 3D Prophet 9700 Pro, so I got a new fan and power supply at the same time.
Current temp, after about 9 hours turned on in the height of summer, but used for nothing more than spreadsheet work:
CPU: 52C
System: 47C
That's the highest it's been all year! CPU normally peaks at 48C while playing Unreal 2. Probably due to England's boiling summer... *grr, unreliable weather* *mutter*
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heh, if you England has boiling summers you should come out here during our summer. I don't think the maximum temperature drops below 40C for the entire 3 months. I dread to think what my V9'll do when presented with that...
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Right. Tomorrow I'm gonna get some self-tapping screws so I can bung a new fan in, then take the sides off, and leave them off.
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I think i know which i buy http://www.thermalright.com/slk900a.html
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If it'll fit your motherboard and case go right ahead. Just remember to get some Arctic Silver 3 and a decent 80mm fan (I recommend the Thermaltake Smart Fan 2 as these can be set up to automatically throttle their speed with temperature and will give the perfect compromise between noise and performance) and you'll be set.
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I have an big tower and a motherboard with mounting hols(i hope i have this right written) its big enough i have enough space in the chase
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Damn, lost the post when the connection downed.
Anyway, you can find stuff about heatpipes with a basic search. Better if you do, as there are all sorts of different configurations to suit different needs and computer layouts.