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Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: delta_7890 on August 11, 2003, 10:48:43 am
<<;  I have a computer problem, and it's really beginning to annoy me..  It doesn't like being shut down..  It doesn't like being reset..and it doesn't like losing its power supply either..  And now, it apparently has a new and unusual habit of very infrequently reset itself when IE ****s up (this has only happened twice, the most recent occurance being last night).  To fix this, I have to unplug everything from the tower..hold the power button down for 45 seconds to discharge the capacitors, and then, once booting up, pray I can get into the BIOS, and get back out with it booting up normally.  I never shut my computer down anymore..and I have a UBS (?) power surge protector that also acts as a back-up battery for when the power gets knocked out.  I'm nearly at my wits end.  What the hell is wrong with my computer?  It's an HP Pavilion xt973...and this is the second one I've had this problem with.  Could it be a piece of hardware that it doesn't like?
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: HotSnoJ on August 11, 2003, 11:10:56 am
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Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: delta_7890 on August 11, 2003, 02:37:31 pm
..Gee..thanks?
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Ashrak on August 11, 2003, 02:44:26 pm
what i suggest you do:


Chek your temperatures PC auto restarts when temp is critical

Whipe out your opsystem (format drive) and reinstall


if 1 of those 2 wotn do it rip the PC to peaces clean it all up put it back together and pray


:)
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: IceFire on August 11, 2003, 02:49:28 pm
Well it could be any number of things.  The computer shutting off in IE is a very serious problem I'd think...you've either got some kind of really bad power supply or a really messed up operating system problem thats telling your power supply to shut the system down.

In general...if you want a stable, clean, efficient machine...do not buy from HP or Dell or any of those companies.  Either build it yourself or find a store that build custom order machines (ask around and find out whos good - generally they do MUCH better jobs than Dell and HP).

As it stands, you do need to work with what you have (nobody is made of pure money after all)...and your best bet is to contact the HP support line and see what they can tell you.  The power supply may need to be replaced...and/or the entire machine formatted.
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Solatar on August 11, 2003, 03:11:28 pm
Smile! You've got Windows.:)

Actually, I don't even think Windows is supposed to screw up this bad. Check all your temperatures and see that you aren't running too much at a time. Or maybe this is some kind of weird virus?
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Hudzy on August 11, 2003, 03:36:12 pm
Heh, only twice? Mine switches off roughly five times a day. It switched off for the last time today. Trying to follow instructions from MS, changed something in driver verifier (xp users, type verifier in the command prompt thing - dunno about other windows types), didn't seem to do anything. Then just this past half hour, it reset again and never started up. Doesn't get anywhere near windows. Just an endless loop of resets. :( I hate it.

I empathise entirely.
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Sesquipedalian on August 11, 2003, 03:44:03 pm
Sesquipedalian's first line of attack when dealing with weird computer errors:

Clean out the CPU's heat sink.  Dust = bad.

Ridiculously simple, and it usually works.
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Dark_4ce on August 11, 2003, 03:49:23 pm
Yeah thats true. My comp started acting weird, and after I cleaned all the dust out from my case, so it was spotless, there wasn't any problem anymore.
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Hudzy on August 11, 2003, 03:54:07 pm
I'll try that now.
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Dark_4ce on August 11, 2003, 04:01:11 pm
Heh, though something rather funny happened when I was cleaning. I used this pressurised air canister, for cleaning computers, but when I used it all of a sudden this SUPER cold liquid came out and sprayed into my motherboard, covering the circuits. It froze instantly and then just vanished as it dehydrated, man my heart jumped into my stomach when I saw that. Thankfully my comp is still fine, but I'm too afraid now of using that pressurized air...:shaking:
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Odyssey on August 11, 2003, 04:28:12 pm
Unless it's a memory problem or something (in other words, unless other programs do it too), then you can be pretty sure that IE is causing something to mess up badly - remember, IE is linked to the windows main kernel - if it goes down, it usually takes windows with it. Are any of your other programs crashing (but not resetting the computer)?
If everything else seems okay, then try switching IE for an alternative browser, such as Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, etc.
If that doesn't help, it might be a problem with the network connections of your computer. Have you got any other programs that regularly connect to the internet, and do they have problems?

If everything leads to a dead end, it could be a motherboard problem. On an old motherboard (years old) I had, whenever too much tried to happen at once, whenever the graphics card was used to run video, and after a little while anyway, it just shut off. No cure, except a new motherboard. It exhibited your computer's symptoms as well - not wanting to get back up after it went to bed.
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Solatar on August 11, 2003, 04:34:48 pm
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
Heh, though something rather funny happened when I was cleaning. I used this pressurised air canister, for cleaning computers, but when I used it all of a sudden this SUPER cold liquid came out and sprayed into my motherboard, covering the circuits. It froze instantly and then just vanished as it dehydrated, man my heart jumped into my stomach when I saw that. Thankfully my comp is still fine, but I'm too afraid now of using that pressurized air...:shaking:


If you use the canned air upside down it sprays that icy stuff.:D But only if it's upside down.
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Descenterace on August 11, 2003, 04:58:07 pm
Oddly, my computer turns itself ON at random times.  Only way to stop it is to turn the thing off at the wall.  It's only done this since I got Windoze XP, too.

Not a BIOS setting.  Not a Power Management setting.  Disabling the ACPI driver didn't work either, but it did stop me using software power-off...
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: delta_7890 on August 11, 2003, 07:24:01 pm
It might be the power supply..and..correct me if I'm wrong, but the power supply is just that big fat cable that provides electricity to the tower, right?
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: Solatar on August 11, 2003, 07:48:35 pm
I think it's a set of comp chips and a fan too. The thing that the cable connects to inside the tower.:D
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: HotSnoJ on August 11, 2003, 08:38:09 pm
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Originally posted by delta_7890
It might be the power supply..and..correct me if I'm wrong, but the power supply is just that big fat cable that provides electricity to the tower, right?
It's more of a box inside the computer.
Title: Slowly beginning to despise my computer..
Post by: delta_7890 on August 12, 2003, 12:43:51 am
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Originally posted by Solatar
I think it's a set of comp chips and a fan too. The thing that the cable connects to inside the tower.:D


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