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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Solatar on August 14, 2003, 01:10:01 pm

Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Solatar on August 14, 2003, 01:10:01 pm: We've finished the cards for the first deck. Get them here (http://www.swooh.com/peon/Solatar/R1.zip). Unfortunately, I lost the set of rules UT gave me, so I can't pass them on to you yet.:D I'm sure he'll be around tomorrow to give them to you.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 14, 2003, 03:53:09 pm: managed to get on today. Here's the rules ;)

Right-click, save as:

http://www.freewebs.com/unknown_target/Rules.doc

Please post experiences here or at Cold Space, thanks!:D ;)
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Hippo on August 14, 2003, 05:06:26 pm: the stealth part seems shoved into the end... maybe a seperate section for it, like the fighter/capital type sections, only this would just be called stealth...

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: redsniper on August 14, 2003, 09:36:25 pm: downloading...
hey, the cards look nice. good job guys :yes:
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Labcoatguy on August 14, 2003, 10:11:43 pm: Looking nice everyone. Do you (meaning the admins) think that this topic deserves stickying or allocation of a separate forum? It seems to be just as resource-heavy and worthy as any campaign.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 15, 2003, 07:00:20 am: *bump*

Could we at least get a mention on the front page?
Anyways, anyone had a chance to play the game yet?
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Styxx on August 15, 2003, 08:07:09 am: Aye, I'll look into that. Sorry I didn't see this earlier. Good job everyone. :)
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 15, 2003, 08:54:58 am: A revision to the Arcadia...it's rarity is Rare.

If anyone spots any errors, post here, and I'll give you the stats for the ships (I'm not releasing the list, tho, sorry ;))

EDIT: A rules revision...the max card limit of each deck has been increased to 62 (make sure to change this on your rules sheet). You may have a max of 2 VR, and a max of 4 Rares. Please change this as soon as you can. If there are no Very Rare cards present, you may have a maximum of 6 Rare cards. However, you may only have a maximum of TWO stations, and 8 capital ships.
Sorry for these revisions, but I'm finding errors in the rules as I make my own deck ;)
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 15, 2003, 09:31:47 am: so that would make it...

2 Very Rare

4 Rare

8 Hard to Find

16 Common

32 Very Common

Cheers ;) And check the rules revisions in my last post.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Black Wolf on August 15, 2003, 10:24:40 am: Does anybody know nything at all about the Thoth (http://digilander.libero.it/zak965/thoth/) Engine? I just found it in a google, but if it's modable, it could be ideal for this (Yes, we could print the cards out, I sure as hell dont have that much ink, and it'd be much arder finding people willing to play).
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Solatar on August 15, 2003, 10:35:28 am: I'm looking into that engine, looking good so far.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 15, 2003, 10:36:04 am: just downloaded and tried it. It looks good, but it's hard to figure out what the hell you're supposed to do.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 15, 2003, 08:36:42 pm: Can we get at least a news item on the front page?

Oh, yea, would anyone mind lending a render for a background image, for the Thoth thingy?
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Galemp on August 18, 2003, 12:01:49 am: Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Target
Oh, yea, would anyone mind lending a render for a background image, for the Thoth thingy?

I have no idea what this is all about, but you're free to use my nodemap. It's in the Gen FS forum.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Carl on August 18, 2003, 09:55:47 pm: are the stats based on real tbl info? cause that would be great.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Kamikaze on August 18, 2003, 10:30:45 pm: Can anyone make a non-doc version of the ruleset? I don't want to try reading through a doc file in an editor like vim or compile openoffice. :p
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Admiral LSD on August 18, 2003, 11:44:15 pm: http://www.westnet.com.au/gweber/Rules.txt

It's just a quick conversion through Wordpad, it's not pretty and the lines aren't wrapped but it should do the job.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 19, 2003, 07:36:38 am: The ship's armor and shields are based on real stats data, and everything else is inerpolated from them.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Christoph_Berg on August 19, 2003, 11:22:44 am: Why has the Herc Mark II less firepower than the old Herc Mark I. Regarding the command briefing of FreeSpace II it has got an update on its engine, but the weapon power is equal.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Woolie Wool on August 19, 2003, 11:35:58 am: It says on those cards that the Anubis is better than the Apollo. WTF?!:lol::wtf:
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 19, 2003, 11:38:35 am: We had to make some concessions for play balancing ;)
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Hippo on August 19, 2003, 11:39:25 am: Quote
Originally posted by Christoph_Berg
Why has the Herc Mark II less firepower than the old Herc Mark I. Regarding the command briefing of FreeSpace II it has got an update on its engine, but the weapon power is equal.

because... it is less powerfull...
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Woolie Wool on August 19, 2003, 11:45:51 am: Quote
Originally posted by Unknown Target
We had to make some concessions for play balancing ;)

As an Apollo fan, I am absolutely appalled.

Anyway, are you going to make Shivan cards?
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 19, 2003, 12:01:48 pm: yea, but they're one of the later decks. After all, they're way harder to balance than the Terrans + Vasudans.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: JC Denton on August 19, 2003, 12:31:09 pm: may I suggest something about the fighter squadrons?

Instead of trying to mentally keep track of the number of ships surviving in each wing, I'd reccommend having four counter beads/tokens/markers of some sort put out along with the card, then removing a counter whenever a fighter is taken out.

Also, there's a bit of revising needed in the repair section: Stations can repair capships as well as fighter squads and support ships, while ships with hangars can only repair fighter squads and certain support ships (i.e. small ones).

Also, about bombers: normally it will only do 4 damage to fighter cards. If it has a turret boost, it'll do up to 6 points, and with a Piranha missile boost, it can do 12 damage distrubuted across up to 6 targets (individually targeting fighters). That is, assuming you want to go that route with defining special weapons for fighters/bombers... And I do think that's a bit on the low side, considering how tough the fighters are...

And I'd also like to point out that the perspective on a few of the cards (Orion and Hatshepsut being the most obvious) is a little off, and the ships look a bit distorted.

But, for a fan-made card game, I think you did a pretty good job. :nod:
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Rampage on August 19, 2003, 03:52:18 pm: I would still have to say that the back of the cards are too complex. Look at what I did with my Homeworld cards that I made back in August, last year: :thepimp:

Card Back:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/as/Staff/Back.jpg)

Bentusi Trade Vessel:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/as/Staff/bent.jpg)

Somtaaw Multi-Beam Frigate:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/as/Staff/mbeam.jpg)

Rampage
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Raven2001 on August 21, 2003, 03:19:14 pm: Ohhhhhh!!! Are you all Magic: The Gathering fans??? That's cool stuff... I can't DL that zip, however... fix the link... :)
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Drew on August 21, 2003, 07:27:09 pm: The page cannot be displayed

i cant get to the deck...
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Unknown Target on August 21, 2003, 08:27:26 pm: Solatar?

Anyways, if he can't get it up tommorow, I'll host it.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Solatar on August 21, 2003, 08:37:32 pm: For some reason is appears either my www.swooh.com account, or the whole site is down. I can't get to my website either.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Charmande on August 22, 2003, 09:17:30 am: DAMN! ..... ................................................. .............................................................. you stole my idea! even though you never heard of my idea. i did something like this before. i think. i made all these freespace cards with paintshop pro, even printed them out and battled with them. itwas quite fun, i dont know how this game works yet cuz i'm at school, we're not allowed to download here. i'l try it and give some... feedback.
Title: fs2 tabletop deck 1 cards release!
Post by: Culando on August 27, 2003, 07:32:21 pm: *returns from lurking of doom*

Ooh, card game? >_> Being a Yugioh addict I'm more than interested in this. *downloads*