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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: TheVirtu on August 14, 2003, 03:46:57 pm
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Turn on the news, theres blackouts in NYC, Cleveland, Ottawa, Toronto, Detroit and more.
Damn there's alot of people walking.
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I would give my left nut for a blackout right now... I dont want to be working...
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Nothing on BBC World. Have they figured out whats caused it yet?
Oh wait. There it is... HOLY ****! Thats ALOT of people!!
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Parts of CT and NJ are affected too...they dont know whats caused it yet though. They ruled out sabotage though.
Update: The power grid in Niagra falls overloaded and failed. Thats why there's all the blackouts.
Power in Toledo is out too..
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edit: nevermind :D
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Theres a major Fire burning at the power station supposed be the one supplying the power to the area, but not clear if its the cause of it, or wait, now they're saying it is.. They are saying that its also affecting up to the mid west.
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Yup, its affecting only the eastern power grid. Damn I hope it doesnt spread here.
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Originally posted by TheVirtu
Update: The power grid in Niagra falls overloaded and failed. Thats why there's all the blackouts.
That on our side, or yours?
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probably localized, becaue its only one of four major power grids in the country, so its probably contained by now... except the fire...
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you know what i just thought? now would be a perfect time to attack if you were a terrorist. i mean, NYC, a major city, is completely locked down... it's rush hour traffic over there, and with no traffic lights or anything everyone's trapped in downtown new york. have you turned on the TV? there's thousands of people in the roads and everything.
and because there's no power, everything's pretty much shut down. computers, businesses, etc. sure they have generators, but that's only basic stuff, like lighting...
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Man, thats a scary thought... But think of all the looting going on! And with the roads all locked up, cops will be hard pressed to stop them!
Weee! 1000 posts... It took a while...
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:nervous: goes on a 'trip'
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce
Weee! 1000 posts... It took a while...
A coincidence... or something more? :D
It sure sucks to live in NY right now :p Even more to have a store there :nervous:
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oh puhleazzeeee...
ther'es no looting going on. for one, it's still day, and so people can still see, so stores are still open and eveyrone's going about their life.
the only thing going on is traffic jams and wrecks, that's about it.
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I would loot....
What?:nervous:
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This is an example of how antiquated the infrastructure of this country, particularly the Northeast, is. There should be backups and backups for the backups. Not to mention enough extra capacity so that if one plant goes down the rest of them can handle the additional load.
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i just had a convesation with the guy who wants me to make the odd graffe, and hes visiting his grandmother in a nursing home in NYC, and they have a generator, and are keeping the old people there. He has his laptop and said the following;
Him; [5:25 PM]: absolute chaos man
Me; [5:25 PM]: yep
Him; [5:26 PM]: cars being flipped by pedestrians in rage
Me; [5:26 PM]: yep
Him; [5:26 PM]: damn why dont i live in new york
Him; [5:27 PM]: :(
Me; [5:27 PM]: WHAT?!
Him; [5:27 PM]: it was over by the subway station
Him; [5:27 PM]: the L-line
Him; [5:27 PM]: a group of angry people flipped a car
Me; [5:27 PM]: really?
Him; [5:27 PM]: yep
Me; [5:28 PM]: wow
hes not 100% trustable, but its not that hard to grasp...
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Looking at the LIVE pics on the news, I don't think theres enough ROOM to flip over a car. But I still believe that stuff like that is happening right now. When people find the opportunity to do crazy **** without worry of consequences, they'll do it.
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look at the ferry lines...:eek2: :eek2:
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I know, THATS ALOT OF PEOPLE!
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Anyone know of any online live TV feed I can surf to? I kinda don't have a TV over here. :D
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www.bbc.co.uk
I used to watch it during my IT lesson :lol:
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Errr nm
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Darn it, I just went through losing an 80 gig harddrive a seagate barracuda, and now the power is. Its on then its off, its on, then its off... :(
So when can one expect it to stop, if only for a little while would improve the mood around here, (not at hlp but at home.. Grrrr.
Well i`ll deal with it, I always do manage some-how..
Well i`m going to clean the swimming pool and take a dip, later..
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Note to self: do not hook the laser into the public grid next time.
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Wow... looks seriously messed up. I think I'll wait for them to call me before I stop flipping this weird lightswitch in ym livingroom that doesn't seem to do anything... :nervous:
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Originally posted by Styxx
Note to self: do not hook the laser into the public grid next time.
So thats what caused the outage! And that nice flaming hole in my car.... grrr.....
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Originally posted by Thorn
So thats what caused the outage! And that nice flaming hole in my car.... grrr.....
No, the flaming hole was me, sorry. I needed something to cast magic missile on.
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has anyone ever played "Worms 2"
i believe there was a secret weapon in it called "Patsy's Magic Missile" or something like that :D
that game 0wned. along with Worms Armageddon
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Originally posted by Shrike
No, the flaming hole was me, sorry. I needed something to cast magic missile on.
You just wait until later...
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Powers back on here... and I'm in the Hudson Valley (Barely upstate NY, accross the river from Su-Teph) :nods: Off for 2 hours though.
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Police are desperately looking for a Power worker, who left his lunch in the injector core at Niagra. He answers to the name of Homer.......
hehehehehe
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Screwed up ****:)
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Originally posted by Thorn
You just wait until later...
Without me you won't know which club to go to. :p
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I walked by it on Tuesday....
Dont know the street name, but I could easily find it again...
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"Terrorism not suspected..."
:doubt:
Oh, yea, my first thought to ANY crisis is that some terrorist blew something up. Sure, it might've been a terrorist, but my first thought is that someone tossed a ciggarette into a pool of chemicles or something.
Seriously, does EVERYTHING that goes wrong now in America get blamed on terrorsim at first glance? Of course, all those hillbillies that don't know better probably think that, but still...
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Originally posted by Unknown Target
"Terrorism not suspected..."
:doubt:
Oh, yea, my first thought to ANY crisis is that some terrorist blew something up. Sure, it might've been a terrorist, but my first thought is that someone tossed a ciggarette into a pool of chemicles or something.
Seriously, does EVERYTHING that goes wrong now in America get blamed on terrorsim at first glance? Of course, all those hillbillies that don't know better probably think that, but still...
More likely that statement was made simply because alot of ppl will see a **** load of major cities losing power at the exact same time has something extremely odd, thus letting them know that while we're not sure (at the time) wtf actually happened,...it wasn't a bomb or some ****. WHat can we say ,... after the whole 9-11 thing alot of ppl are still pretty damned scared, especially in the area in question.
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well, the east coast does seem to be a target these days...
And it's a power outage. Whoopdee-fucking-doo! Try living in California with Gray Davis as your governor. :doubt:
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That was an annoying power outage. Nothing bad though. What a bunch of whiners down in New York City. This is their first power outage since the 70s, and they act like it's the end of the world. In Upstate New York, we get at least 5 blackouts a year.
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Originally posted by Flipside
Police are desperately looking for a Power worker, who left his lunch in the injector core at Niagra. He answers to the name of Homer.......
hehehehehe
:wtf:
You do realize that Niagra is a Hydro-electric plant... right?
Named after Niagra Falls...:doubt:
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
That was an annoying power outage. Nothing bad though. What a bunch of whiners down in New York City. This is their first power outage since the 70s, and they act like it's the end of the world. In Upstate New York, we get at least 5 blackouts a year.
I donno about you....but if I had to stand in a 4 mile long line just to get home after work....I'd ***** too.
I think the biggest issue from all this should be that the power companies need to take some of the $ ppl shell out for power and update their systems and back up systems.
Like you said...you lose power 5 times a year,... and my power goes out if 4 rain drops fall at once,....yet for a 3 room place I'm paying $35-$120 a month (low being summer rate,..high winter).
Think about it ... everyone has to pay for utilities,.... yet theose are the list updated things in the country. The first time I had to get into a Verizon hub to work on their access system....I laughed for an hour,...I swear to god the place was nothing more than a 4 room shelter with CAT 3 wiring flopped all over the freaking place. It seriously looked like ppl hadn't been in the building for 20 years,... yet it was the phone hub for 3 counties and one city. I'd wager the power company has similar equipment.
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Of course, part of the reason why New York is so dependent on outside power is because morons in Long Island forced them to shut down the Shoreham nuclear plant after it was built, but before it was up and running.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
well, the east coast does seem to be a target these days...
And it's a power outage. Whoopdee-fucking-doo! Try living in California with Gray Davis as your governor. :doubt:
:ha:
Hell Yeah! For once its not us sweating sitting in the dark. Nice to see someone else suffer. :nod:
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Of course, part of the reason why New York is so dependent on outside power is because morons in Long Island forced them to shut down the Shoreham nuclear plant after it was built, but before it was up and running.
Yeah, now it's an empty shell of a building sitting there. But those idiots (and I used to be/still consider myself a Long Islander) Don't realize that there are like 3 Nucular (It's pronounced Nuke-you-lar) plants right accross the water in Conneticut. And a Big one on Indian Point up the Hudson a bit.
No, no, they'd rather complain about how they are being poisoned, and that theres no way of the Island in an emergency and crap like that.
I bet no one's complaining about nuclear power now.
Oh, and on a side note... All of those places having no power, and my puny lame ass county is one of the few in NY state with electric. Rockland, yeeaaa!
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I was rather annoyed that it took 2 1/2 hours to get power back in my house. There are 3 nuclear reactors on the other side of the county (Nine Mile Points 1 and 2, and Fitzpatrick), and still we lose power :rolleyes:
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My school's website in Newark (NJIT) is offline. So are all my computer geeky friends.
I've never been so alone... :nervous:
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From what it sounds like... it almost sounds like the 1967 blackout. Some antiquated transformer went and that cascaded. It's a grid of power, if one part of the grid disconnects then the rest will be overloaded... not good. Or if they're aren't enough plants then a power plant will try too hard... not good.
Any country's power grid is the most sensitive thing to terrorism. Sure taking out a nuc power plant would be a disaster. How about taking out the building that sits 200 yard off the interstate in Colorado. It controls the power for most of the Western Power Grid. That would be a massive cluster ****.
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
My school's website in Newark (NJIT) is offline. So are all my computer geeky friends.
I've never been so alone... :nervous:
I'm on. :p
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Holy **** i have seen it in the news alone in NYC are over 100000 on the street
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I'd think they'd find it wiser to stay in doors then go stand out in the street...
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it sure was a lot of people
how're the things now?
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Bwahahahaha...
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I'm in Toronto, I've been blacked out from when it started to sometime during the night when it came back on. So, about 10 or 12 hours I'de say, without power.
From what I hear there was about 40 million people with no power, 2/3 in the uS and 1/3 in Canada.
There wasn't looting or anything over here, it was just dark. And the building beside us had a fire (barbecue) so the fire-crew showed up and that was a bit of excitement.
Yesterday during the dusk hours, there were reports of certain parts of Ontario getting their power back, even some close to where I live. I guess those were the streets with the hosptials and banks and such. As far as I know, we got power back during the night, but its all good.
The US in blaming Canada, Canada is blaming the US and so forth. I'm suprised its all so interconnected, I would have never thought that Toronto's power grid would be connected to New York or Detroit.
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thank god for hydro-electric;)
(http://www.choppingblock.org/comics/cb20030815.jpg)
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Originally posted by Turnsky
thank god for hydro-electric;)
Hydro-electric had similar problems....parts of Niagara hydro electric were able to isolate themselves...the rest were knocked off completely.
Seems the North American power system is in worse shape than anyone thought.
My power was out at 4:20 pm.
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Originally posted by IceFire
Hydro-electric had similar problems....parts of Niagara hydro electric were able to isolate themselves...the rest were knocked off completely.
Seems the North American power system is in worse shape than anyone thought.
My power was out at 4:20 pm.
Tasmania has its own grid... which by anyone's standards, is older than the US nuclear power grid, and far more stable.. and seems to be better equipped to handle the odd emergency..
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Originally posted by Turnsky
Tasmania has its own grid... which by anyone's standards, is older than the US nuclear power grid, and far more stable.. and seems to be better equipped to handle the odd emergency..
Well probably for two reasons.
Many officials are saying that a third world nation would be better equipped to deal with such a problem because of all the backup generators and whatnot which would keep supply down during an intense need of electricity.
Plus, Tasmania isn't nearly as big as the area affected and no doubt even if the power grid were strained that it would not have a giant amount of customers to draw on. Apparently the reason the system went down as far as it did is because as each grid went down, the demand rose increasingly until the entire system was so stretched that everything crashed.
But as you said before about the hydro electric...we have lots of that around here (Niagara falls for instance - one of the biggest sources of hydro electric power) and that didn't save things one bit.
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Well, First the hydro plant grid failed, and when their power went down, that prompted all of the nuclear plants to shut down. (Don't ask me why, they said this on the news)
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http://www.hydro.com.au/education/schemes/index.html
that said, droughts do indeed threaten the stability of hydro pretty severely, they even had to prep a large gas-powered station in case the dams fell to a critical level... which they did..
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MY whole town is powered by a coal plant in Salem, some 20 miles away, even though there is a rather large Nuclear plant 30 miles away :rolleyes: ...
(http://www.sustainableunh.unh.edu/promise/energy/banner.jpg)
Heres the coal one;
(http://www.salemstate.edu/graduate/mba/images/IMG09A.jpg)
These two plants keep my area on a seperate grid, so we only have power outages when a tree snaps the cables coming from both plants...
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
:wtf:
You do realize that Niagra is a Hydro-electric plant... right?
Named after Niagra Falls...:doubt:
:wtf:
You do realise I was joking...right? Or do you think the Homer Simpson really exists?
Flipside
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Post reported.
And you think Anon is obnoxious?
Flipside
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No, not particularly.
And shower down there once in a while, willya? I'm gonna run out of quotes too fast.
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Well, done, you achieve obnoxiousness and stupity all in one paragraph. Your mother must be so proud :D
Flipside
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What are you, 12? No wonder you're so into a "describe your local power utility!" thread. Those big yellow utility vehicles and smokestacks and **** just get your juvenile motor running, don't they?
Also, my mother's dead. ****ing prick.
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww diddums! What's the matter did someone say something nasty back to you? And by the way, in case you hadn't noticed, you are in this thread too.
If you cannot act or talk like an adult then I suggest you get some therapy until you do.
Flipside.
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Flipside, if you're going to report a post - stop being an ass in it. It gets noticed and people think you're a moron.
Stryke, how many times now? Grow the **** up boy for goodness sake. I've had enough of seeing such drivel spew forth in whatever you have to say day in day out. Nobodies impressed by what you have to say, you're just irritating and nothing more.
Thread locked. Much more of this and permenant bans will be looming on the horizon. Grow up or get out.