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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Petrarch of the VBB on August 16, 2003, 01:41:01 pm

Title: Homeworld is mocking me.
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on August 16, 2003, 01:41:01 pm
Can someone tell me why this is?

Every time I try and play Homeworld these days, I can't get past the 2nd mission, as I can't kill the Turanic carrier that destroyed the Khar-Selim.
What am I doing wrong?

The first time I played the game, it was a breeze...
Title: Homeworld is mocking me.
Post by: DragonClaw on August 16, 2003, 01:44:44 pm
You don't kill the carrier, it escapes.
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Post by: Flipside on August 16, 2003, 01:58:49 pm
Oh yes, and one other hint, don't build too many ships, the less ships you have, the less enemies appear on that and the next level ;)

Flipside :D
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on August 16, 2003, 02:01:28 pm
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Originally posted by DragonClaw
You don't kill the carrier, it escapes.


I thought if it escaped the mission was failed?

Odd.
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Post by: Flipside on August 16, 2003, 02:04:51 pm
That's a couple of missions later, you are attacked by the carrier, return, capture the Frigate, head out again, Meet the Bentusi, get the Ion Frigate and THEN you have to destroy the Carrier :)

Flipside
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on August 16, 2003, 02:15:27 pm
It really has been a long time, then.

But still, I have to at least damage the bugger, for it to escape, yes?
my fighters and corvettes get 0wned by those quick-firing guns on it.
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Post by: Mr. Vega on August 16, 2003, 02:27:21 pm
No need. Just kill what's attacking the mothership and it leaves eventually.
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Post by: Thor on August 16, 2003, 03:00:16 pm
While we're on the topic, could someone point me at a good Homeworld walkthrough.
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Post by: Descenterace on August 16, 2003, 03:25:13 pm
I've GOT a good walkthrough, but I can't remember what page I copied it from.

Try looking here: Homeworld Universe (http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~homeworld/)
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Post by: Nuclear1 on August 16, 2003, 05:31:15 pm
Petrarch you noob. :lol: Anyway, yeah, do what they say. Kill the fighters and vettes, but ignore the carrier. In Mission 4, build a lot of interceptors and heavy vettes, then rip that carrier apart.
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Post by: Fury on August 17, 2003, 01:15:53 am
As soon as I got frigates, I never built fighters or corvettes again. Unless a mission goal required so.

Really, you save a lot of resources if you concentrate on capital ships and keep those alive by using support frigate's repair capability.

Fighters and corvettes are a waste of resources IMO...

Some day I need to try how well an armada of ion cannon frigates does against fighters and corvettes alone. (In single player)
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Post by: Sandwich on August 17, 2003, 01:33:01 am
What's the best (only?) SW TC for HW?
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on August 17, 2003, 04:47:42 am
I used to know of a very good one, but they kept chaning everything, so I lost interest.

SWFA, I believe it was called.

And whatever happened to the Freespace TC? SVG, was it?
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Post by: TheCelestialOne on August 17, 2003, 05:58:10 am
Go here: http://jstonline.thegamingunion.com/ for mods!
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Post by: Nuclear1 on August 17, 2003, 04:28:27 pm
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Some day I need to try how well an armada of ion cannon frigates does against fighters and corvettes alone. (In single player)


You arrive with 30-45 ICFs. I arrive with 80 interceptors in an aggressive wall, and 20-30 heavies in a wall. You won't have a single ICF after two minutes :p
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Post by: Fury on August 17, 2003, 11:24:17 pm
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Originally posted by nuclear1


You arrive with 30-45 ICFs. I arrive with 80 interceptors in an aggressive wall, and 20-30 heavies in a wall. You won't have a single ICF after two minutes :p

That is why there's 6 missile destroyers. :rolleyes:
But in any case, multiplayer is different from single player. People can think and change their strategies accordingly, but in single player it is the same all time.
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Post by: Nuclear1 on August 18, 2003, 08:36:33 pm
Not at all. There are dozens of different ways to play, strike-craft-only, corvette-only, caps-only, salvage-all, kill-all (my fav :D)... the list goes on.
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Post by: Thorn on August 19, 2003, 11:19:35 am
I find the best strategy is to have a good mix of strike craft and capships...
A wing of attack bombers covered by a group of scouts on evaisive will make short work of a missile destroyer...
The scouts distract the destroyer...
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Post by: StratComm on August 19, 2003, 12:00:38 pm
Original homeworld encouraged that, as unit capping allowed you to max out on one type of ship and still have plenty more ships that you could build.  The cataclysm "support" system (which I understand HW2 uses :doubt: ) is the one that forces you to adopt an all-one-type strategy, as you could not get enough ships from several classes to be useful.
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Post by: Nuclear1 on August 19, 2003, 03:37:55 pm
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Originally posted by Thorn
I find the best strategy is to have a good mix of strike craft and capships...
A wing of attack bombers covered by a group of scouts on evaisive will make short work of a missile destroyer...
The scouts distract the destroyer...


:nod: But then again, make one huge wall of 80 aggresy inties, there shouldn't be a missile destroyer after a second or two. Same goes for nearly everything larger than a corvette. ;)
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Post by: Rampage on August 19, 2003, 03:56:26 pm
Have you tried capturing the carrier?  By the end of the game, I ended up with two Turanic carriers.
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Post by: elorran on August 19, 2003, 04:07:33 pm
Odd.  Homeworld nor cataclysm allows you to salvage mothership classed vessels (classed in the ships file that is) and the Turanic Carrier is a mothership classed vessel.  My only guess either you modded the game or I'm missing something here.
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Post by: Flipside on August 19, 2003, 04:10:27 pm
When dealing with Strike Craft, Assault Frigates are your friends :)

Flipside :D
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Post by: Thorn on August 19, 2003, 04:14:54 pm
Multigun Corvettes work better than Assaults :D
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Post by: Rampage on August 19, 2003, 04:35:59 pm
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Originally posted by Thorn
Multigun Corvettes work better than Assaults :D


(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/as/Staff/mg0.jpg)

Mwhahaha!
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on August 19, 2003, 04:40:24 pm
I'm now on the mission with the 3 Kadeshi Motherships, sending swarms after me.

Wish me luck.:)

And also, about the unit-capping/support units thing. I prefer the Cataclysm system, as although it does tend to force you to use an all-one-class fleet, this is not necescarily a bad thing. I tend to use Acolytes, and nothing else.

That's why I get utterly thrashed in Cata MP games, damned EMP...
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Post by: Rampage on August 19, 2003, 05:03:24 pm
My strategy, regardless in HW or HW:C, is always: capture, capture, CAPTURE!

I would construct tons of salvage corvettes and go after Kadeshi multi-beam frigates.  In that mission specifically, I would suggest sending a destroyer group to one of the nearest motherships and vaporize it.  Don't bother with drone frigates if you're Somtaaw, but do get some defense-field frigates if you're Taiidan.  Order several support vessels to repair your mothership and and another to repair your group of destroyers.  In that mission, multitasking is king!
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Post by: Thorn on August 19, 2003, 05:05:23 pm
I like most of that game, except for the Supernova Station....
goddamn dust veins are too small
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Post by: Flipside on August 19, 2003, 05:35:50 pm
Homeworld : Too few resources
Cataclysm : Too many resources.

I hope they get it right for Homeworld 2.

Flipside :D