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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Krackers87 on August 31, 2003, 06:12:55 pm

Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Krackers87 on August 31, 2003, 06:12:55 pm: Id like to pimp my new FreeSpace 2 Refrence Guide Database based off of Sandwhich's Ship guide.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,17147.0.html (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,17147.0.html)
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Taristin on August 31, 2003, 06:24:58 pm: ...And with which program are we supposed to view this?
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Krackers87 on August 31, 2003, 06:29:18 pm: microsoft acces.

if you dont have it download the components then just open th .mdb file

it should work
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Stryke 9 on August 31, 2003, 06:34:48 pm: Erm...

Sorry, what's the point?
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Taristin on August 31, 2003, 06:42:01 pm: AHHH!!! MICROSOFT IS INSTALLING CRAP ON MY PC!!! STOP IT! STOP IT FOR THE LOVE OF AN0N!!!
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Krackers87 on August 31, 2003, 07:40:44 pm: easy historical refrence of ships in FS2 campaign.

Some of it isnt done such as the descriptions for the ships
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Stryke 9 on August 31, 2003, 08:00:09 pm: Yeah, but... what would you need one for? Most everyone here knows all they want or need to about the campaigns, etc., I suspect this would have very limited use, if any at all...
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Kamikaze on August 31, 2003, 10:39:58 pm: I just want to know why you used some screwy MS-only format that isn't even used by many MS users here. I'm sure this could be accomplished using the rather widely supported xml formats (which, conveniently, would be accessible from a web browser) or something else. *subtly recommends a different format*
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Krackers87 on September 01, 2003, 07:42:59 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
Yeah, but... what would you need one for? Most everyone here knows all they want or need to about the campaigns, etc., I suspect this would have very limited use, if any at all...

Making campaigns

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Originally posted by Kamikaze
I just want to know why you used some screwy MS-only format that isn't even used by many MS users here. I'm sure this could be accomplished using the rather widely supported xml formats (which, conveniently, would be accessible from a web browser) or something else. *subtly recommends a different format*

Before you recomend a format recomend a program thats as easy to use first.
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Charlotte on September 01, 2003, 07:52:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Krackers87
Before you recomend a format recomend a program thats as easy to use first.

Excel maybe? :rolleyes: Or one of the other countless spreadsheet programs.
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Krackers87 on September 01, 2003, 08:07:25 am: ....

excel is the same as access except that this is a database and excel makes tables

acess uses tables to make a database.

Spread sheets and spreadsheet programs are wothless for this type of program. So i need a Database making program that has the ease of use that Microsoft Acess does.

In addition wasn't the whole reason Access wasn't good because it was Microsoft?

Edit: And i have to be able to distribute it to people that dont have the program.
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Charlotte on September 01, 2003, 09:12:06 am: Access sucks so much black donkey balls that I threw it off my computers. Tiara also doesn't have it :p
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Krackers87 on September 01, 2003, 10:31:19 am: ...thats helpful

besides you dont need access to run it

just the core files.
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Krackers87 on September 02, 2003, 01:50:50 pm: Ill se about getting it done in Vbasic so it can be a stand alone .exe
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Xelion on September 03, 2003, 07:58:14 am: For F***'s sake if you couldn't complain anymore about Access and referring to Microsoft as crap...WHY THE F*** do you use a Microsoft Operating System for :hopping:

Microsoft Office and its components and programs are much more stable and useful then any Operating System they've released by FAR!!

btw I just checked this out...very nice work Krackers87! :nod:
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Charlotte on September 03, 2003, 08:07:01 am: I didn't say Office was bad (though it surely isn't all that good) but MSAccess is just pure crap. There are more database proggies I'd prefer over the MS variant anyday.
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: vyper on September 03, 2003, 08:21:02 am: Well, its either that or he does it in Oracle. :shaking:

:p

Hmm, I must try the database in Open Office some time.
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: J.F.K. on September 03, 2003, 09:11:12 am: Hmmm, I have no use for this as yet, but it looks like you've put in a fair amount of effort into this - so well done and thanks for that. ;)
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: mikhael on September 03, 2003, 10:32:43 am: Quote
Originally posted by Charlotte
I didn't say Office was bad (though it surely isn't all that good) but MSAccess is just pure crap. There are more database proggies I'd prefer over the MS variant anyday.

Actually, for small scale databases that need no concurrency, and do not need to have a server behind them, Access is pretty good.

As soon as you leave the 'small scale' realm, though, you should move on to something serious, like PostgreSQL, or on up to DB2, Oracle, etc.
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: Kamikaze on September 03, 2003, 06:12:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Max
For F***'s sake if you couldn't complain anymore about Access and referring to Microsoft as crap...WHY THE F*** do you use a Microsoft Operating System for :hopping:

I don't, I use gentoo linux on this computer and debian linux on my laptop.
Title: Pimp My New REfrence Guide
Post by: mikhael on September 03, 2003, 09:14:52 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kamikaze

I don't, I use gentoo linux on this computer and debian linux on my laptop.

You're on the right path with Gentoo. Now just take the full leap to FreeBSD and you'll have completed your journey. ;)