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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Knight Templar on September 02, 2003, 01:03:24 am
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Yes... permabanning.. for flaming razor of all things.. Sure, a week/month/post count reduction/****upage of his profile would have been fine and perhaps funnny, but permanently banishing him.. for flaming Razor? The same retarded razor that chewed out Thunder for telling him to stop spamming, before "leaving this hell hole himself." The same Razor that came back, with the same gay razor attitude, with the same irratating comments about how he wants to see the place go down in flames and he's just here to annoy us on the way? If anything, you should perma ban razor, help him on his way. He doesn't seem to want to be here, so why not help him out?
And you're probably going to give some big long explanation of how things work™ and that an0n had it comming since the day he registered, or even delete the post, lock the thread, etc, but just think about it though. an0n is a troll yes, but he's our troll and he seems to be a lot more helpful to the community, despite his blunt and unique views on the tard of the month. Really, want to at least rethink it over? Look at both the sides involved? Pwease?
*Goes back to watching Days of Our Lives
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I wonder why he didn't just delete this....Hmmm....:drevil:
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Flaming is flaming, no matter who does it, and an0n did quite a bit. The admins' job is to enforce the rules.
Anyway, you'd probably have a much better chance of getting something done if you posted this in the support forum or PMed an admin with your case...I don't think unbanning an0n (or banning Razor) is going to get much support. I don't think many people care.
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Flaming is flaming, no matter who does it, and an0n did quite a bit. The admins' job is to enforce the rules.
Anyway, you'd probably have a much better chance of getting something done if you posted this in the support forum or PMed an admin with your case...I don't think unbanning an0n (or banning Razor) is going to get much support. I don't think many people care.
i agree:nod:
Q.and why some peoples are flaming
A.because they are stupid
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I agree with the 'flaming is flaming' part.
Everything else is crap.
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I care damnit! And you should too. We hardly get enough drama around here... it's about ****ing time.
Sure there's the whole "Oh, well he makes the community look grouchy" crap, but that's what plausible deniability is for. :D
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There's nothing 'plausible' about it.
And the community sucks ball anyway: Observe (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,17174.0.html)
Little ****s think because I've lost a few avatars and my post-count that they're somehow better than me.
*ducks and covers*
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I asked him to delete his above post from the HLP REQUEST THREAD for obvious reasons (apparently not obvious enough, tho... *glares toothpicks in KT's general direction*).
And as for unbanning an0n or banning Razor, it's not a democracy around here, you know. Discuss it all you want, but don't waste time on starting anything like a "Petition to do such-and-such". :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
And as for unbanning an0n or banning Razor, it's not a democracy around here, you know.
Then make an executive decision and un-friggin-ban me
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right.. isn't it currently a communism?
Do what's best for the people. Vote an0n. ;)
Well talking about it certainly eases the pain a little.. I think. Unless that's just the morphine and cherry pie talking.
oh sandy, you didn't even have the curtesy to acknowledge my request? I'm hurt. :p
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I actually quite agree with KT there. yes, he might have flamed, but people (including himself before) have done much worse and not gotten into any trouble, and besides it was Razor of all people on the recieving end, who has become a total outcast around here with his attitude. It's like banning someone for saying a few harsh words to Hemaroid Frog Butt on the VBB (anyone remember that guy? :D).
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And let's not forget the massive amounts of good stuff I did that kept me from being banned for over a year.
- The Fattonys.com Image Uploader.
- Giving Demonica 1.9Gb of space to upload that file (Granted, that was just to prove Stealth wrong, but still).
- Trying to defend newbies.
- Giving non-HLP-Hosted projects space and forums on NW.
- Finding a fix for just about every damn problem the forums ever had way before anyone else (and being ignored).
- Bringing humor and much-needed vet-slapping to the forums.
That's all I can think off.
HFB makes SicDeth look like a happy, well-balanced forumite.
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Didn't you help Stryke finally find his marbles too?
At any rate, can we at least get a razor title change? It's so misleading as it is..
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Yeah, he left them with that Russian hooker.
I had to beat the crap out of her for 4 hours straight to get them back. And she had these HUGE, sharp nails.
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bah, why do you want to unban An0n? he seems to be having a lot of fun right now :D
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Yeah, but the thing with alt-nicks is that they quickly become permenant. And I want my 6000 posts back dammit.
Infact, that's how I ended up as an0n in the first place. Thunder wouldn't unban Fattony.
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hmm.. seems saying "how ironic" would just be in bad taste.
Bah, what the hell. :D
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This is a strange method of forum discipline. Ban people, but let them reincarnate themselves. :confused:
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It's part of the vB coding.
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So is that picture of the dog. Well, it's part of the PHP.
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/?=PHPE9568F36-D428-11d2-A769-00AA001ACF42
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easter egg :p
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How random.
Anyway, I think this is all rather deja-vu-ish. an0n's been banned before, he's been unbanned before, Razor's been a pain before, he's vanished for a while before. So the circle of hlp life continues. Its not as if the fs2 community is so massive as it is, I doubt anyone would be kicked out permanently. ;)
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Originally posted by CP5670
Hemaroid Frog Butt on the VBB (anyone remember that guy? :D).
I don't even know what the VBB is, but his name makes me laugh :)
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I think it's fairly simple - though I speak for myself - it seems to have turned out thus:
Regardless of what people may have done for the community, some of them have insisted on being assholes for some time now. A lot of this can be overlooked because it's not worth the trouble to go into some major punishment every time it happens - however it's happened so much now that the staff are just plain tired of it. Those who've acted this way can forget their nice cushy punishment system - regardless of how minor the final act may be - if they insist on acting like 10 year olds then they'll get sent straight to Ban 'o rama for it without any kind of hearing. The length of time is at the staffs discretion. It might not seem fair to someone who just comes along and sees the end of the story - but it's a hell of a lot less hassle than trying to knock some sense into some of these kids.
And of course, those who insist on coming back despite not being wanted around do have ISPs, it doesn't take very long to contact them and inform them of abusive behaviour - believe me :)
The short version? Act like a dick : get treated like a dick and get shoved in some dark hole. Act like a normal human being : we'll get along fine. Simple.
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
The short version? Act like a dick : get treated like a dick and get shoved in some dark hole. Act like a normal human being : we'll get along fine. Simple.
Sound's like good 'ol common sense to me.:nod:
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KT, I don't want to have to ban anyone else, so stop with the insults. I don't care who you're insulting, or what you think of him, or what you think the rest of the forum members think of him.
Also, we don't like having banned members returning with alternate nicknames. I didn't want to have to resort to IP banning - I hoped an0n would keep to himself and try to behave until his account was returned to normal (which wouldn't have taken long) - but it seems I have little choice.
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Well obviously you won't value my opinion (which is odd since this 'community' you keep refering to consists of over one thousand registered members and not just half a dozen admins), but I must say that IP banning an0n would suck eggs. I wouldn't stick my nose in to admin buisness but for the fact that I've always been taught to stand up and say something if I percieve an injustice.
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Well, you can say why - but there's no garuntee it'll change anything. You seem to be forgetting something - as you say there's one hell of a lot of people here, and only a few people with admin powers. Therefore the admins can't be everywhere at once and so if things were left unchecked then god knows what would happen - it's a sad fact that there are some people that stupid around here who can't do things by the rather un-strict rules. an0n is just one such person and because he keeps pushing his luck, his time has come. Don't say he hasn't had ample chance to change his ways!
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Oh no, I appreciate that you keep giving him 'chances' backed up with threats of banishment. But have you noticed that the harder you push, the harder he pushes back? Maybe the solution is to ask him, privately, to have more tolerence for... well, I'm going to have to say it, idiots. Perhaps you already have and he simply refuses to sort himself out, I dunno. In anycase, I for one feel most strongly that his positive influences around here far outweigh his negative qualities. The community would be a poorer place without him.
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This is a bit OT, but I thought we only had about 500 people active.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Oh no, I appreciate that you keep giving him 'chances' backed up with threats of banishment. But have you noticed that the harder you push, the harder he pushes back? Maybe the solution is to ask him, privately, to have more tolerence for... well, I'm going to have to say it, idiots. Perhaps you already have and he simply refuses to sort himself out, I dunno. In anycase, I for one feel most strongly that his positive influences around here far outweigh his negative qualities. The community would be a poorer place without him.
[color=66ff00]We have.
Personally I weighed the positive influence he has against the negative and I agree with the banning, he did more damage than good. Just because you do constructive things on occasion does not mean that you have licence to be an abusive, negative influence. :sigh:
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damn, then, there goes my plan of turning to pure evil.
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Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of damage did he actually do? Just flaming? Was there anything else (apart from the portscan thing which we all know he'd never actually bother to do)?
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Oh no, I appreciate that you keep giving him 'chances' backed up with threats of banishment. But have you noticed that the harder you push, the harder he pushes back? Maybe the solution is to ask him, privately, to have more tolerence for... well, I'm going to have to say it, idiots. Perhaps you already have and he simply refuses to sort himself out, I dunno. In anycase, I for one feel most strongly that his positive influences around here far outweigh his negative qualities. The community would be a poorer place without him.
I think you miss the point of why he was banned. The way I see it, An0n was banned because he flamed Razor and got caught with it. He was then banned, because the overall level of flaming and chaos in the forums had reached a certain distinct point. He was banned, I assume, because it was necessary to show the rest of the forumites, that Admins are still looking over us, and more importantly to discourage the rest of the flamers not to repeat that mistake. Death penalty is useless, unless it is enforced on someone. If you know that even though it exists, you're never going to be electrocuted, you still act as if it didn't exist. If you see that people are electrocuted for being tards, you don't. If Thunder had just told him to lay off, it wouldn't have had the effects it did on the entire community. Or that's how I understand it.
And also, he's been banned before. Why did you get so upset now?
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no. he's been banned coz he pissed of the admins, pissed them off again, then again, then again, and after some times, anybody would reach the limit and make the troublemaker pay for it. I would. Altho I actually have nothing against An0n, I guess not having to deal with his beahviour kind of helps. That's not the same for admins. Anyway, I don't see the point in arguing about that, HLP is not our place, after all, we're just welcome here. The owners make the rules.
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Originally posted by Stunaep
And also, he's been banned before. Why did you get so upset now?
In my own warped fashion, it seemed to me that an0n was one of the most mature and well-balanced people around here. When he flamed, he usually just stated the truth without all the rubbish the rest of us come up with. He never sugar coated anything, or held anything back - as far as I can see his 'flaming' was basically him speaking his mind, something most of us won't do becuase of the politics around here. And he got banned for it. If I started telling certain members what I really thought of them like an0n did, I'd prolly get the boot too.
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So... basically, an0n helps forum out, doesn't suck Razor's cock enough for some whiny peoples' tastes, admins feel inadequate (because of a surfeit of flaming that nobody except the people who alwyas ***** and moan about how the forum's going to hell in a handbasket anyway can see- aside from being in a bad mood that one day when I flamed just about everyone who looked at me funny, I've seen maybe eight actual flames in the past month), admins need to find a scapegoat to "punish" to fill that empty hole in their lives, admins let Razor back and ban anyone who touches the putz.
Well isn't that grand.
You know, I'm suddenly reminded of why I left here for HOTU that time back in the first place. Being treated as personal property by a bunch of guys who hardly take the time to help the community beyond harassing those they consider lesser beings isn't a good trip, and I very seriously doubt it's a coincidence that an0n's one of the few people who do more for the community as a whole than the admins and everyone knows it- whether they'll admit it to themselves (let alone anyone else) or not, there were plenty of people far more bannable (such as, well, I've said it before, and the guy who starts with an "R" and ends with an "azor" is only one of a list that includes me and, at times, certain admins), and there was an agenda here. See y'all when you guys let some actual adults run the place.
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to be honest, an0n getting banned wasn't a suprise for me, him getting banned for "flaming" razor, was.
basicly because it wasn't a flame, and even if it was, it was completely asked for. also, threateniong with portscans is rather small. i mean, who would actually go to all the trouble?
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Originally posted by Stunaep
...Death penalty is useless, unless it is enforced on someone. If you know that even though it exists, you're never going to be electrocuted, you still act as if it didn't exist. If you see that people are electrocuted for being tards, you don't...
Wow, HLP's a pretty important place if you equate a banning to the death penalty. :p ;)
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
In my own warped fashion, it seemed to me that an0n was one of the most mature and well-balanced people around here. When he flamed, he usually just stated the truth without all the rubbish the rest of us come up with. He never sugar coated anything, or held anything back - as far as I can see his 'flaming' was basically him speaking his mind, something most of us won't do becuase of the politics around here. And he got banned for it. If I started telling certain members what I really thought of them like an0n did, I'd prolly get the boot too.
Don't assume that you're the only one who sees things that way. Personally, I did not mind an0n's very open and blunt way of saying things, but I also realize that that's because I live in the Middle-East, where such behavior is the norm - although perhaps not quite to the (c)rude extent that an0n took it at times.
But whether I can take it or not, or even whether Razor deserved it or not, isn't the issue. The issue is that he persisted in behavior after having been warned multiple times, both in public and via PM, to tone himself down below "highly offensive" to something approximating "blunt and honest". He didn't.
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How come I miss all the comedy when I'm away at work? It's never fair...
The following stands apart from anything any other admin or whoever has said - I'm merely addressing what's happened and trying to get the point across. I'll ramble - but at least it's there to be read. Ignorance of what's been said is not reason to neglect it.
Also, I say "the admins" but I include myself in that since I still have admin rights. Lets not get into the "but you're not an admin" debate here.
diamondgeezer, sorry but you're not getting the same end of things as the admins are. Yes, an0n has done good for the community and it's a shame to have to ban him from the forums. But as it's already been pointed out:
Doing some good is not a voucher to be an asshole the rest of the time.
And yeah, call it speaking your mind if you like. But this is an online community that only functions because people do their best to get on. You may not agree with everything that everyone says - but most people don't make provocative comments to people - certainly not in the manner that an0n and certain others around here have. It's not needed. Whenever anyone gets annoyed or in some kind of arguement around here - there's typically a handful of people involved. A handful out of how many hundreds of people who've registered here?
The admins just don't need this hassle. Has it ever occured to some of you that one of the reasons that things don't always get done around here is because they're to busy looking after a few people who can't play nice? It takes time to go through the vB logs and find peoples IPs to ban them, it takes time to make posts to tell them to shut up because if their stupidity. All of this could be put to better use in improving the site but because a few people feel the need to conduct themselves in the manner of 12 year olds (in the guise of free speach, speaking their mind, not sugar coating things or whatever), the admins have to drop what they're doing and go and take care of the forums AGAIN. And they do have to take care of them - because if they didn't all these little flame wars would become big flame wars. The forum would go the way of the VBB and that would be that.
an0n was not banned for this latest little hiccup alone. He was banned because he kept on pushing. Every individual little thing is nothing major - something that an admin would overlook in a heartbeat with the comment "there's no need for that" and that would be all. But it's not just one, it's one after another after another and collectively the admins have just had enough. HLP was not created to babysit people who want to provoke others - there's a hundred and one other forums you could go to for that. HLP is about Freespace, modding, keeping the community together. If people keep pushing their luck then they'll be treated as little children and forced to leave the proverbial table. Good ridence to them.
Stryke, you of all people have come up with some pretty funny stuff. an0n is not alone in the "people pushing their luck" stakes. He merely went to far - but don't think he can or will be the only one. If you don't like things around here, you don't have to be here. By coming here you submit yourself to how things are run - and most people have gotten by fine. As I said earlier, a handful of people can't play by the rules - and now one of them has been punished and people are getting upset about it. To late now kids, he - and you - should have thought about it before it went to far.
Now, this can go two ways.
1) Be nice to eachother, avoid the flaming and the stupidity. Don't get punished and generally enjoy HLP for the reasons it was created. I go with this option.
2) Be unpleasent, keep flaming... pushing your luck... just to see if the admins can take it. Get banned. Whine about how unjust it is that you got banned. Keep pushing it and get banned permenantly. Whatever.
It's all up to you guys. I keep saying that the admins don't enjoy banning people. Seriously, there's a heck of a lot that needs doing and banning people just takes up time. But if you can't be sensible then you'll get banned - one way or another. It's up to you.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
...See y'all when you guys let some actual adults run the place.
That means you're leaving? How happy I am.
I've warned you all multiple times, and I'll do so for one last time: anyone caught explicity offending or threatening another board member will be banned. I don't care if it will hurt your feelings if someone you like is banned. I don't care if it will hurt your feelings if you're banned. It's forum policy, as set by the administrators, and it will be enforced. Anyone who has been banned - temporarily or otherwise - who registers with alternate nicknames to try to bypass the banning will have all his known IPs banned from the forums. Repeated attempts might turn a temporary punishment into a permanent one.
So stop whining. It will get you nothing, except perhaps a banning if you cross the line while doing it. If a member's opinions bother you, ignore him. Argue with him in a civil manner. Talk to him through PM's or means other than the forums. But do not offend or threaten him on these forums. It's that simple.
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
2) Be unpleasent, keep flaming... pushing your luck... just to see if the admins can take it. Get banned. Whine about how unjust it is that you got banned. Keep pushing it and get banned permenantly. Whatever.
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See? I am God ;)
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
See? I am God ;)
Meh - whatever. :drevil:
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Ooooh :lol:
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In my own warped fashion, it seemed to me that an0n was one of the most mature and well-balanced people around here. When he flamed, he usually just stated the truth without all the rubbish the rest of us come up with. He never sugar coated anything, or held anything back - as far as I can see his 'flaming' was basically him speaking his mind, something most of us won't do becuase of the politics around here. And he got banned for it. If I started telling certain members what I really thought of them like an0n did, I'd prolly get the boot too.
That's exactly what I liked about his posts as well; he spoke his mind straight and to the point, and didn't pay any attention to the political correctness stuff. My views frequently coincided with his on some issues actually. :D
an0n was not banned for this latest little hiccup alone. He was banned because he kept on pushing.
Well, what seems strange to most of us is that this incident was actually counted as a hiccup of any sort, as Razor was really asking for it there (and not for the first time either). As kasperl said, nobody is really surprised that he was banned, but rather that it was this incident that pushed it over the line. Like I said, if an HFB-style guy came here and people "threatened" him (which happened for this particular guy by the way; you might remember since you were around in those days), I really doubt anyone but him would get in trouble.
Or of course, you could just ban them both. :D In fact, such an action would probably have generated less criticism around here.
I don't even know what the VBB is, but his name makes me laugh :)
You know, Volition Bulletin Board, or was that before your time? That was Volition's official forum and was around for a few years before being shut down. Anyway he was probably the worst troll in the history of that place, which is definitely saying something considering it was the VBB. :D
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Please describe this Hemorrhoid Frog Butts person in greater detail.
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No, don't. He was an idiot and wouldn't have lasted 2 weeks around here.
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My theory about the recent...unpleasentness in HLP is that, after awhile, if there is little or no administration present, in the form of banning members or locking threads, most people, whether unconciously or concsiously, think that they can begin to get away with everything they do. And this has been true, until just recently, when it finally became enough. The admins, wanting to regain control of HLP, banned one of the main offenders, and a long-time stander in the community (whether we like it or not), to show the other forum members that they were finally tired of all our ****. It used to be that I could say the f-word in my posts, but it got even worse to the point where I can't even do that anymore, because the admins have noticed an excess of it and put in a filter.
So, basically, the admins are making up for lost time.
EDIT: And I remember Hemroid Frog Butts (wrote him in my movie :D). he was an ass and I got into a couple arguments with him, where he showed the logic reasoning of a 6 year old.
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That could be true - I always thought there was a moderate presence of admins watching over the boards since the beginning but if you think the presence wained then so be it... indeed it does prove one thing - some people can't be trusted to be left to do things for themselves. The presence of admins here to punish people is required, or people forget themselves and do things they shouldn't.
Either way you look at it, enough is enough.
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See, when Shrike asked me to be nice, I was for a few weeks.
But I don't take kindly to being threatened is all.
And the forum is going to **** anyway. All these dickhead little n00bs running around thinking they're God.
Within, what? 2 posts? In the 'newbie questions' thread, Hippo started having a go just because he didn't agree with my opinion.
Oh and when you IP ban someone it might be an idea to actually lock the account too. Not doing so is just laziness.
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Very well then.
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You were nice for a few weeks, what, you want some kind of cookie for it? Most people get by being nice all the time and you don't see any of them being banned do you! When we ask you to be nice - and we have serveral times - we mean in a consistent way, not just for a couple of weeks untill we leave you alone again.
What I don't get about you is how you can take such a high and might opinion of yourself and yet be so stupid in every other respect. How many times has it been echod "if you try and come back after being banned, you'll be banned longer"? Quite a few! And yet you still want to spout whatever you feel like after all this.
Take. The. Hint.
And if you really think the forum is going to ****, why don't you leave? God knows it would save the admins a hell of a lot of trouble... who knows something might actually get done around here instead of babysitting people who just can't play by the rules they signed up to when they first joined.
Don't think you're doing something great here an0n. You're being irritating. Keep on pushing and someone will push back harder and you'll be the one to take the fall. It's a hassle for the admins - but nobody could say you don't have it coming. Learn when to shut up or someone will teach it to you the hard way. Call it a threat if you like but it's one you really have asked for. Nobody set out to get you when you first joined the forum, you earnt your reputation and put yourself in this position. Now deal with it, because nobody else is going to on your behalf.
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yeesh. Think this is the first time since I've been here that I've seen the admins so PO'd....
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Who was it who said that times change but people don't?
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This is far far too stressy for a Tuesday :(
As an irritating N00b, can I make a request that you lock this thread and let it slowly fade into the East like it's subject? These last 4 weeks, the flames HAVE increased particuarly, I think, over that heatwave in England, I was certainly damn irritable!
Flipside :D
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I guess you're right...
It's just annoying to see things potentially being done behind the scenes (they really are, some of the work is pretty damn impressive) and yet the same people who've done this work have to come here and deal with little pricks like an0n. Nobody needs people like him when they bring that attitude here.... it does nothing for anyone but to serve his own childish mind. If I had my way he'd be gone permenantly as well as a couple of others, aren't you glad I'm not a 100% admin? :doubt:
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Theoretically you are.
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Notice how they've not already closed it.
They're leaving it open so they can argue the point till nobody cares and 'prove' they're right.
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Well yeah, but since I got kicked off GS for breaching their hosting rules - it's rather hard for me to do much around here. That said I'm happy to do what I can in the capacity of an admin.
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What did you do to break the hosting rules?
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Theres a mod for BF1942 called Desert Combat, I got hold of the alpha version that was exclusive to FilePlanet at the time and hosted it on my FTP so a couple of friends could download it. They caught me and kicked me off their servers - I still have vB access through the HLP staff but thats it, no FTP and no GS services. Still, I live and learn... I certainly don't hack into GSs FTP to make more of an annoyance of myself glances at an0n....
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I never hacked GS's FTP.....did I?
Anyway......
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n/m, you guys post faster than I
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:wtf:
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Ooooops! LOL
That defies comment ;)
Flipside :D
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No? Read what I posted. I was hosting game files that I shouldn't have been hosting - nothing major like warez (nobody pays for DC) and no porn or anything like that. Just game files that werent supposed to be there.
And "ChristmasPast" you keep coming back here? How many times do you have to be banned before it registers with you that you're not wanted here? Do we have to go further?
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Originally posted by ChristmasPast
:wtf:
*Fire Control, target ChristmasPast. Power up photon beam cannons. Commence plasma core insertion. OPEN FIRE!*
(http://members.cox.net/~wmcoolmon/images/welcome.gif)
Uh-oh, wrong beam.
*fires a red beam reading "GO AWAY, AN0N!"*
And Kalfireth's posts made sense to me.
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Wollie you goof-off, don't welcome An0n! And you forgot to change the name when you copied the welcome from Charlotte's "new to this forum" thread :rolleyes:
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Woolie mate, what the hell are you doing?
[EDIT] Damn it, I'm getting to slow at this posting buisness
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I think he's a little slow on the up take - leave him be, there's a certain irony to be had in anyone welcoming an0n these days :)
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Well, apart from the image link, I'm pretty sure the Admins would like to see ChristmasPast beamed.
The thing that makes me sad is the he is justifying the Admins actions all the more with his own. If he would just keep his head down for a while, he might have been let back on in a few weeks (possibly months ;) ). And no doubt calling us all fools as ever :)
Flipside :D
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Actually originally he was going to be back in a week, maybe two. Of course he's started trying to throw his weight around by pushing his luck again.
I'm just mulling over whether or not to contact his ISP now or do it some other time... I am bored but I'm also feeling kinda lazy.
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I edited my post, but I kept the image because there's no appropriate image for "get the hell out, an0n!".
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Well i can see this place becoming a very dull place with out the likes of an0n, what IS the actuall problem, yes he flames, but who doesn't are you not doing it yourselves right now?
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Allright i'll do us all a favor and close this thread. You have all read and posted your opninons on this flamewar/banning discussion. The bottom line of all of this is that when you cross that litle thin red line that is board policy you will get burned.
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Originally posted by Sheepy
Well i can see this place becoming a very dull place with out the likes of an0n, what IS the actuall problem, yes he flames, but who doesn't are you not doing it yourselves right now?
Dull is subjective. Go and look in the source code forum - there's tonnes of stuff to talk about in there, Bobs done some great work! But there's no flamming.
As for us, well - the admins have been trying to point out why they did what they did instead of just closing the thread and ignoring all cries for an explanation. It's turned into flamming but considering some of the things that have been done and said lately - I'm tempted to go with the "who gives a ****" option. It's true we're all human - but the admins don't run around flamming everyone all the time. That can't be said for some people.
On that note I'm done, sorry to Windrunner for posting over his closed thread post but it had to be said :)