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Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Agent on September 08, 2003, 01:01:11 pm
I have a problem here .I think that my eyes get strained a lot  while I work at my PC. Now that I have more IT orientated subjects at school, it may get even worse. Usually, in the mornings, I can see more red color on my eyes than white ad it's horrible. I don't actually feel pain but red is there. What monitor settings should I use? How should i plan my PC working time? Any recommendations?
Thanks :)

By the way, I currently have it set at 1024*768 85Hz and it's a 19" Dell monitor.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Gloriano on September 08, 2003, 01:06:08 pm
go doctor
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Assassin on September 08, 2003, 01:07:09 pm
If your eyes are straining there are several techniques that may help....

Turn your monitor brightness down, and keep ambient lightning moderate and not dark (No late-night, lights off, computing)

Your eyes should be at the same vertical level as the top of the monitor

Sit further away from the monitor.

A bare minimun - once an hour take a full minute out to stare into the horizon so your eyes may relax.

I would also recommend spending less time on the computer, and more time out in the world. I find spending a few days away from the computer is enough to sort my eyes out.

Jack
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Assassin on September 08, 2003, 01:09:12 pm
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
go doctor


Infact, bump to this. I glazed over the bit about seeing more red and white?! Sounds bad - doctor!

Jack
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Thorn on September 08, 2003, 01:11:15 pm
Turn off the computer, go outside and WALK to the doctors... if your eyes are that bad, it may not be safe to drive....
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Woolie Wool on September 08, 2003, 01:13:29 pm
Raise your monitor refresh rate to 120Hz or so. 85Hz is a recipe for headaches.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: kasperl on September 08, 2003, 01:20:30 pm
buy a TFT screen.

at least, my eyes are better with a TFT then a CRT. also, keeping ambient lighting to rather moderate levels, and lowering the brightness to a minimum should help.

also, get to a doctor pronto. if your eyes aer more red then white, it's time to go for a doctor ASAP.

if you have to use the computer for school, use it at a minimum, go for a TFT screen, and take brakes each 15 minutes 2 or something. go for coffee, toilet, pizza, crisps, beer, anything.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Agent on September 08, 2003, 01:23:10 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
Raise your monitor refresh rate to 120Hz or so. 85Hz is a recipe for headaches.


I am not sure if i should raise it to 120. It says it may cause hardware problems.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: kasperl on September 08, 2003, 01:28:59 pm
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Originally posted by Agent


I am not sure if i should raise it to 120. It says it may cause hardware problems.


try the highest refresh rate the hardware can take.

edit: perhaps lower the resolution too, but don't go below 1024/768, IMHO
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Gloriano on September 08, 2003, 01:30:59 pm
why peoples sit in front of computer 12hours:D
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Taristin on September 08, 2003, 01:43:28 pm
I have to keep mine at 60 hz to get a clear picture. 70+ make the screen wobbley, and anything from 75 on up gives me an unsupport rabge error from my monitor... :(
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: RandomTiger on September 08, 2003, 01:45:37 pm
Do you have / need glasses?

If you are still only at school (ie young) and are having these problems I would be worried. I personally would not use a computer until I've seen a doctor rather than risk damaging my sight in any way.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Woolie Wool on September 08, 2003, 02:25:18 pm
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
I have to keep mine at 60 hz to get a clear picture. 70+ make the screen wobbley, and anything from 75 on up gives me an unsupport rabge error from my monitor... :(

Buy a real monitor or lower your res.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Agent on September 08, 2003, 02:42:24 pm
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Originally posted by RandomTiger
Do you have / need glasses?

If you are still only at school (ie young) and are having these problems I would be worried. I personally would not use a computer until I've seen a doctor rather than risk damaging my sight in any way.


I don't have or need glasses. I can see perfectly fine.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Nico on September 08, 2003, 02:51:54 pm
spend less time on your PC. that's the only way, everything else is bullcrap. if you stay in front of your screen all day long, all week long, you'll end up, well, just like I was ( and you don't want to have the headaches I used to have ).
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: RandomTiger on September 08, 2003, 03:07:14 pm
I can also advise getting a natural keyboard, before your hands mess up.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Woolie Wool on September 08, 2003, 03:11:03 pm
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Originally posted by RandomTiger
I can also advise getting a natural keyboard, before your hands mess up.


I hate those "natural keyboards" because I don't touch type like most people. Plus, the old layout is familiar to me and I can type faster with it.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: kasperl on September 08, 2003, 03:14:55 pm
i should try one of those, but i doubt it will help much, i am used to this way too much.

*notices sore wrist*

how much do those things cost?
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Nico on September 08, 2003, 03:15:52 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool


I hate those "natural keyboards" because I don't touch type like most people. Plus, the old layout is familiar to me and I can type faster with it.


well, that sure is great and very educational. mind sharing other parts of your life with us?
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Woolie Wool on September 08, 2003, 03:18:43 pm
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Originally posted by Venom


well, that sure is great and very educational. mind sharing other parts of your life with us?



Whatever.
:rolleyes::blah:
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Descenterace on September 08, 2003, 04:24:27 pm
It's odd... I've used computers almost 10 hours a day for nearly 12 years, and neither my wrists nor my vision have been affected (I needed glasses about a year before I started using computers).  I'm not overweight either.

Then there's my Dad, who hardly uses computers at all, but complains of sore eyes/wrists after half an hour...
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: CP5670 on September 08, 2003, 09:32:15 pm
Same goes for me actually, and it's pitch dark most of the time I am at the computer. I do have remarkably near-sighted vision and got glasses many years ago, but that is most likely a genetic thing (dad, grandfather and some other relatives had/have the same problem). Perhaps it's just a matter of getting used to it.

One thing I would really recommend is to use a high-contrast color scheme (bright text on a black background, as in FS2 or this place) for windows if you spend a lot of time with programs that use the standard windows GUI, which is what I have it set on. This considerably reduces the amount of light given off by the monitor and can especially make a big difference in the dark.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: diamondgeezer on September 08, 2003, 11:25:41 pm
Over here in merry old England, the law says that anyone who works with computers is entitled to an eye test at the expense of their employers. Which is handy.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Descenterace on September 09, 2003, 01:49:36 am
Yeah, but in England, farmers are prosecuted for defending themselves against burglars...

As soon as I can afford to, I'm emigrating.  To America or Australia (coz I'm too lazy to learn another language).
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Flipside on September 09, 2003, 06:32:36 am
Hmmmm.... sounds to me like you are sitting too close to your monitor, also, try using optrex or another eye bath, you eyes dry out while you are staring at a screen, so you need to oil 'em once in a while ;) Some people suffer from this worse than others.
Oh yes, and don't end up like me, having to see an Orthopedic surgeon because you screwed your hip up by slumping over your computer every night for nearly 20 years ;)

Flipside :D
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: RandomTiger on September 09, 2003, 06:37:09 am
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Originally posted by kasperl
i should try one of those, but i doubt it will help much, i am used to this way too much.

*notices sore wrist*

how much do those things cost?


A bit more than normal keyboards but its well worth it.
I went for a nice one with media buttons so it cost a bit more.

Takes a bit of time to get used to especially if you can touch type.
Also best to do your research, some have odd layouts for the arrow and insert etc keys.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: DragonClaw on September 09, 2003, 06:55:22 am
My dad has a natural keyboard, and I can't type worth rat droppings on it. I'm an oldie, standard keyboards 4 me!

*develops arthritis*

sh*t!! :ick
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Woolie Wool on September 09, 2003, 10:20:57 am
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Originally posted by Descenterace
Yeah, but in England, farmers are prosecuted for defending themselves against burglars...


Why? If someone breaks into your house in America, you can shoot him.;)
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Agent on September 09, 2003, 10:58:33 am
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool


Why? If someone breaks into your house in America, you can shoot him.;)


It's not just in America. It's everywhere else.
Title: OT Problems with eyes
Post by: Descenterace on September 09, 2003, 03:44:11 pm
Yeah, that's why I'm moving to America.  I have some, er, novel ideas for house defences.  I take the view that any injuries sustained in the course of breaking the law should count as 'self-inflicted'.

Hence, that teenager who got shot while breaking into Tony Martin's house actually committed suicide.

Electrified window frames, anyone?  Or electrified valuables, for that matter.