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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Fineus on September 13, 2003, 09:48:27 am

Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Fineus on September 13, 2003, 09:48:27 am
Well, my personal CD player is looking very long in the tooth now. The question is - replacement.

I listen to music a lot on the go, both because I cycle most places locally and because I'm allowed to listen to music quietly whilst at work.

So, it's got to be small - able to carry a lot - and to be updated easily. My first thought was (and is) a personal CD player with MP3 playback capabilities, which given I have a CD writer would be the obvious choice. Does anyone have any better ideas at this stage - or know of a particularly good piece of equipment?

Cheers!
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Stealth on September 13, 2003, 09:51:11 am
do some research on the different types online.  personally if i were you i'd get one of those MP3 players that are the size of a credit card (slightly thicker ;) ) and you connect it to your computer and download/upload to it...  you can store hundreds of MBs of music on some of them.

or you could get a CD player (like you said) that supports MP3s too... i dunno, i'd get this if i wanted to listen to CDs, but if you're only going for MP3s i'd say go for the first one :D
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Turnsky on September 13, 2003, 10:00:44 am
mp3 players = no moving parts:yes:
and besides, you can rip the mp3's from the cd's..
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Splinter on September 13, 2003, 10:02:36 am
I HIGHLEY reccomend one of the 3 following.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/70901/wo/VS36KaYvMTIQ39PHXbE9Mv0M0xx/0.0.7.1.0.5.21.1.3.1.0.0.0.1.0

http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iMP-550.asp

or
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-100.asp

(I presonnaly have a $400 iPod and it would more then fit your criterea, jsut make sure you either have firewire or purchase the firewire to USB 2.0 thing they sell at apple. http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/70303/wo/cs5xEGsoWKJB3SpgcO97vm8vRJk/4.3.0.5.10.3.1.13.0 )
Title: Re: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: 01010 on September 13, 2003, 10:17:54 am
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Well, my personal CD player is looking very long in the tooth now. The question is - replacement.

I listen to music a lot on the go, both because I cycle most places locally and because I'm allowed to listen to music quietly whilst at work.

So, it's got to be small - able to carry a lot - and to be updated easily. My first thought was (and is) a personal CD player with MP3 playback capabilities, which given I have a CD writer would be the obvious choice. Does anyone have any better ideas at this stage - or know of a particularly good piece of equipment?

Cheers!


Sony NetMD, fits in the pocket perfectly, slightly bigger than a minidisc, as thick as a AA battery of which one will get you at least 12 hours play. Connects to the pc and drag MP3's across, absolutely NEVER skips from being bumped. MD's are cheap and you can get about 5 hours of music on one.

Here is the model up from mine, cheaper too. (http://shop.sonystyle-europe.com/SonyStyle/b2c/readshop.do;jsessionid=ID4001DB0.4542867020203516End?z_Forward=setDefCatalog2&url=www.sonystyle.co.uk&SonyForward=Z_MapURL&redirected=true&nextExecute=/catalog/z_InitShopISAEntry.do&shopId=SST_GB_EN)
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Admiral LSD on September 13, 2003, 10:30:51 am
If I had the money, I'd by an Apple iPod. The Macintosh version, as the Windows version is formatted with FAT32 and I wouldn't trust FAT32 with my data even in the relatively safe environment of my desktop PC so there's no way in hell I'd use it in as rough and environment as the iPod. Seeing as how my 8RDA+ nForce2 board has Firewire and the Linux kernel supports the Macintosh filesystem, I should be able to mount it like any other removable HDD without any external software.
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Zeronet on September 13, 2003, 11:34:10 am
I got a Goodmans GCD 720 Personal CD from Argos for 30 quid. Plays CDR, jogproof.

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=1001&productId=63643&Trail=C$
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Flipside on September 13, 2003, 11:56:51 am
I whistle to myself :D

Personally I'd either buy an MP3 Player or a MiniDisc with record facility, I certainly wouldn't buy a MiniDisc Player, there no point :)

Flipside :D
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: kasperl on September 14, 2003, 02:49:39 am
either one of those 40GB iPod like thingy's, with the added advantage of a removable HD.

or indeed a MP3CD player, with added Audio CD playing capability.

i myself have a RioVolt SP-100, i paid €250 (about the same in dollars) for it, but i that was at least a year ago, i just bought it to soon. :(  costed me €150, since you can get this thinkg for €100 now.
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: J.F.K. on September 14, 2003, 07:07:23 am
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Originally posted by Turnsky
mp3 players = no moving parts:yes:


Gotta say ditto there, for me that would be a huge bonus... :nod:
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Woolie Wool on September 16, 2003, 12:28:12 pm
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD
If I had the money, I'd by an Apple iPod. The Macintosh version, as the Windows version is formatted with FAT32 and I wouldn't trust FAT32 with my data even in the relatively safe environment of my desktop PC so there's no way in hell I'd use it in as rough and environment as the iPod. Seeing as how my 8RDA+ nForce2 board has Firewire and the Linux kernel supports the Macintosh filesystem, I should be able to mount it like any other removable HDD without any external software.


What's wrong with FAT32?
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: kode on September 16, 2003, 12:33:44 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool


What's wrong with FAT32?


what's right about it?
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Woolie Wool on September 16, 2003, 12:34:51 pm
It supports DOS apps, unlike NTFS.
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Fineus on September 16, 2003, 12:36:43 pm
Hey everyone, thanks for your replies - I think I'm going to do some more close-up investigation of my options before buying... but right now it looks like MD is out. CD Players are the favourite (as I have lots of CDs) but MP3 capacity is a must.
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: Splinter on September 17, 2003, 02:37:54 am
then I garuntee you will niether be dissapointed with this or go back to any other cd players... EVER after you have used it
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iMP-550.asp
... if this one is to pricey you can buy on of the many earlier versions all incredible.

http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iMP-350.asp

http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iMP-400.asp or in red http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iMP-400red.asp
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: ZylonBane on September 17, 2003, 03:04:58 pm
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD
The Macintosh version, as the Windows version is formatted with FAT32 and I wouldn't trust FAT32 with my data even in the relatively safe environment of my desktop PC so there's no way in hell I'd use it in as rough and environment as the iPod.
Huh? How is single-user linear access "rough"?

Or are you somehow under the impression that the file system determines how tough the bits are? :doubt:
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: kode on September 17, 2003, 04:13:39 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Huh? How is single-user linear access "rough"?

Or are you somehow under the impression that the file system determines how tough the bits are? :doubt:


some file systems can repair theirselves somewhat, which could be useful on a drive that yuo carry around, since there's the ever-so-small chance of files corrupting when you shake a hard drive that's reading/writing.
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: ZylonBane on September 17, 2003, 04:29:02 pm
My understanding is that they can repair things like linking and TOC errors... things which are most often messed up by the OS itself, not physical damage to the drive. Without resorting to RAID or mirroring, no file system can recover damage to data.
Title: CD / MP3 / MD.. Oh my!
Post by: IceFire on September 17, 2003, 04:34:37 pm
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Originally posted by Admiral LSD
If I had the money, I'd by an Apple iPod. The Macintosh version, as the Windows version is formatted with FAT32 and I wouldn't trust FAT32 with my data even in the relatively safe environment of my desktop PC so there's no way in hell I'd use it in as rough and environment as the iPod. Seeing as how my 8RDA+ nForce2 board has Firewire and the Linux kernel supports the Macintosh filesystem, I should be able to mount it like any other removable HDD without any external software.

The Macintosh/PC versions no longer exist.  Its one package unit that Apple sells now.

I like the NTFS system quite a bit better than FAT32...especially since if the system hardlocks I'm less worried about data integrity...but I wouldn't go so far as out of my way to avoid FAT32 either.  That seems a tad bit extreme...