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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: mnftg64 on September 19, 2003, 10:00:17 pm
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e genreal FS nod map, there are a couple of nodes that I would like to know where the lead to, cause the line just goes off screen
there is one from Regules, Altair, Dubbe, Mireak, and Adhara.
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There doesn't seem to be any official data on that. For my purposes I just say that those are unstable nodes that cannot be safely used by GTVA ships.
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The consesus is that these are known nodes too unstable for Terran or Vasudan subspace travel. They're probably monitored very closely in case any Shivans show up through them, or if they stabilize.
The Regulus and Altair nodes are covered in Derelect/Warzone/BWO. They have new colonies branched off them.
As for Adhara, the Scroll of Atankharzim is using it. Hit my SA avatar to learn what's on the otehr side. :D
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Seketh made a very nice map (the best IMHO), but it raises some questions.
There is system called N398 (or something), but I can't find it in any other nodemap I know :confused: . Where does it come from and what's going on there? Can somebody clue me in?
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Well, there is the mention of the "Battle of Gulnara" and the "Talania system" in the techroom description of the Leviathan (or Fenris?) in FS 1. I think these system could be called "official".
And I guess that the reason you don't see those systems on any official nodemap is plainly because there's no action taking place there... read: boring ol' system without any planets or viable resources (Gamma Drac anyone?).
Gamma Draconis is not named in the FS 1 nodemaps.
As for the other two? Ask [V]...
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One more thing: in the first Bosch Monologue cutscene in FS 2 you can see the Jump Node to the nebula stretching all the way right on Bosch's laptop, showing just how far away the nebula exists from GTVA space.
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Remember that there is no real basis for any of the distances shown on any of the FS nodemaps; the only node from Sol, for example, leads to a system over 200ly away which looks closer than a system only 4ly away. The whole nodemap is just off.
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And I guess that the reason you don't see those systems on any official nodemap is plainly because there's no action taking place there... read: boring ol' system without any planets or viable resources (Gamma Drac anyone?).
Well Gamma Draconis is actually on the official nodemap, just without a label. But the same goes for Epsilon Pegasi, which seems to be a major system, while systems like Dubhe are present and labeled even though nothing happens there in either official campaign.
One more thing: in the first Bosch Monologue cutscene in FS 2 you can see the Jump Node to the nebula stretching all the way right on Bosch's laptop, showing just how far away the nebula exists from GTVA space.
I remember seeing that too, but it doesn't look like the nodemap positions have any bearing on the real ones (e.g. Wolf 359 is certainly farther away from here than Alpha Centauri). Either the subspace "distances" are completely different from the real ones or the GTVA's nodemap presentation program has some bugs in it. :D
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Well we all know that V ****ed a lot of things up. Look at the Silent Threat thread, for example...
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In my story I'm writing (when I can be bothered) there's a system called Zeta Aquilae that links to Regulus.
Then Zeta Aquilae links to Quartzon, which links to Brimspark, which links to the Limefrost Spiral, which links to Bayloris Prime, which finally links to Omega.
Anyone here play Descent 2? Then you'll know that there used to be a node between Sol and Zeta Aquilae. And yes, there is something nasty waiting at Tycho Brahe...
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Originally posted by Shiva-jin Buu
Well, there is the mention of the "Battle of Gulnara" and the "Talania system" in the techroom description of the Leviathan (or Fenris?) in FS 1. I think these system could be called "official".
And I guess that the reason you don't see those systems on any official nodemap is plainly because there's no action taking place there... read: boring ol' system without any planets or viable resources (Gamma Drac anyone?).
Gamma Draconis is not named in the FS 1 nodemaps.
As for the other two? Ask [V]...
Gulnara and Talania aren't stated as being systems. Very old node maps (revamped after FS2 came out) did show a Talania system with nodes to Antares and Beta Aquilae, but was removed along with extra nodes into Sol later. Unfortuantly, finding one of these maps is next to impossible (I remember it, but can't find a copy anywhere). The closest you'll find is the Warzone node map.
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Then Zeta Aquilae links to Quartzon, which links to Brimspark, which links to the Limefrost Spiral, which links to Bayloris Prime, which finally links to Omega.
Anyone here play Descent 2? Then you'll know that there used to be a node between Sol and Zeta Aquilae. And yes, there is something nasty waiting at Tycho Brahe...
lol, I remember all those systems; I have played D2 so many times I think I have memorized even those weird level names. :D That didn't seem to have any nodes however; your ship instantly went pretty much anywhere your mission objectives were.
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Alot of these systems were probalby placed there by V for a possible FS3 or just to add more depth to the background and allow fan made campaigns and maps more leverage with official systems.
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If it's any help, here's an old SquadWar map...
(http://homepages.tesco.net/esd00/euro-league.jpg)
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On the issue of some systems appearing closer to Earth than they should be, remember that space is a 3D thing. Perhaps the reason the systems in question appear to be closer to Earth than Alpha Centauri, because of the line of sight factor. For example, when you look at the constellation of Ursa Major (Big Dipper to most), a couple of those stars are actually much farther than the rest, but because of the perspective, they appear close.
Later!
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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
On the issue of some systems appearing closer to Earth than they should be, remember that space is a 3D thing. Perhaps the reason the systems in question appear to be closer to Earth than Alpha Centauri, because of the line of sight factor. For example, when you look at the constellation of Ursa Major (Big Dipper to most), a couple of those stars are actually much farther than the rest, but because of the perspective, they appear close.
Later!
A nice idea except that in the command briefings the map is moved about a bit and you can see that the stars are not in the right places in 3D either.
Besides I doubt that the same company who have Capella as a single star system would have bothered to make a 3D representation of the stars positions. In fact if you check out a proper scientific 3D representation of the nearby stars you'll see that most of them are in the wrong places.
I wish people would stop thinking the node maps are anything other than a representation of which systems are connected. It doesn't display the distances between those systems in any way, shape or form.