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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: diamondgeezer on September 26, 2003, 10:18:52 am
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Not the fat lady kind, the browser kind. I'm sick off IE6 gaying up on me and my various OS discs have all disappeared. So instead of a Windows reinstall I stuck Opera on me box.
First question - I got rid of all the default crap in the bookmarks menu and imported me IE favourites, but how can I make me links dsplay like in IE?
Second - I got rid of all the pointless buttons in the toolbar customizer but they haven't gone away. Perhaps this is cos the customizer doesn't have an apply button. What shoud I be doing?
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To display links like in Explorer, I guess you have to put them in the 'links' folder in the bookmarks and activate the 'Personal bar'. Or something.
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I don't want to activate the nasty little personal bar. I killed it dead for a reason.
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uhm, DG, you might find that iframes and CSS won't work properly under Opera, so don't be suprised if some sites (as the Fleetwars site) look a little wierd.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I don't want to activate the nasty little personal bar.
What the hell's wrong with the personal bar?
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The personal bar is Opera's equivalent of the IE Links bar, you'll have to re-enable it and add all the items on your IE Links folder into the Personal Bar (you can do this through drag and drop in the Manage Bookmar window) folder if you want your Links to work like in IE.
If you want to get rid of a particular button on the main toolbar at least (the one with the Back, Forward etc) just right click the button you want to remove and select "Remove from Toolbar."
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Ah, yes, that got it Admiral. The Personal Bar seems less nasty once I got rid of all the junk it was filled with by default. Nicely. OK, next, does anyone know how I'd add buttons for, say, Messenger, ICQ or DAP like I have in IE?
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Yeah, the default searches aren't terribly useful but if you put the Find in Page (which Mozilla copied as it's "inline find" feature) and Google searches (which Mozilla copied again) on they're almost indispensable.
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Originally posted by kasperl
uhm, DG, you might find that iframes and CSS won't work properly under Opera, so don't be suprised if some sites (as the Fleetwars site) look a little wierd.
Unless by 'properly' you mean 'like IE does things', then Opera is great. In my experience, Opera's interpretation system sympathises with both IE's standards and proper HTML standards, but you can't expect something that is programmed properly to always understand what IE does. For instance, IE sometimes, just sometimes, randomly, reacts to new lines on table layouts. It ain't right. Iframes especially are one of those things that IE does very differently to normal standards.
Unfortunately it's 'better' to design for IE, since IE is the majority, but that makes for some really interesting layouts in, say, Mozilla - which is pure W3C standard.
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Aaargh, the damn music won't play on my site. A pox on 'alternative' browsers! Still, it doesn't crash, which is a plus...
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I'd be glad if I came to a site and it didn't play some annoying music that doesn't harmonise with my normal mp3 background music.
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But this music is Johnny Cash. You owe it to yourself to listen :nod:
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now you assumed I didn't have cash on my playlist.
right now, that assumement is correct. I have old german electronic music that became hits for no reason (more specifically: Mo-Do - Eins Zwei Polizei).
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How odd. Myself, I'm playing MIDIs from old Nintendo games. You ought to chat with Petrarch sometime...
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
How odd. Myself, I'm playing MIDIs from old Nintendo games. You ought to chat with Petrarch sometime...
no.
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But he gives out complimentary M&Ms...
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Indeed I do, and free inane ramblings.
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And advice on wearing hats
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And a different username everytime I blink.
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Different and diverse usernames.
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Originally posted by kasperl
uhm, DG, you might find that iframes and CSS won't work properly under Opera, so don't be suprised if some sites (as the Fleetwars site) look a little wierd.
That's just 'cause you coded it wierd, if you did what I told you to do it'd look right. CSS DOES work right on Opera btw, you'll notice the CSS support is much better than for IE.
However, Opera's XML support blows.
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IMHO If you want the webpages render the 'right' way then use IE if you want computer speed and options/features go with Opera.
I really like the feature where you can have it save where you were browsing last. ^_^
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IE does not do things "right", it does them all wrong. This is why you have this misconception (web site creation is too easy, the morons make bad sites). :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
That's just 'cause you coded it wierd, if you did what I told you to do it'd look right. CSS DOES work right on Opera btw, you'll notice the CSS support is much better than for IE.
However, Opera's XML support blows.
well, i know what CSS can do, and what i can do with CSS.
two very, very different things.
and also, if making it better compatible with other browsers, damaging it for IE, i'm afraid i'll pass.
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... When did I say that the stuff I told you to add in the CSS would break anything else?
EDIT: sounded a bit harshlike :p
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mm, i must have misread something.
sorry for that, i'm a bit tired after cleaning up a bloody cealing last night.
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IE does not do things "right", it does them all wrong. This is why you have this misconception (web site creation is too easy, the morons make bad sites).
So glow text is rendered correct in Opera and rendered wrong in IE? :wtf:
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glow text isn't w3c standard, afaik.
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*re-hijacks thread*
Hokey dokey, now I've been trying to integrate my copy of DAP5 in to Opera. It has a check box for it, but says it needs a file called Opera.INI, which I don't seem to have. Any thoughts?
And before people start asking me why I'm doing this (as they invariably will), I find the leach function most handy for adding to my balooning pr0n folder. K?
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For one, the file will most likely be called opera6.ini (yes, even in O7. Don't ask me why they persist with this convention in post-6.xx version of Opera though, I don't know) and depending on how you set opera up and what version of Windows you use it'll be in either the Opera directory itself (\Program Files\Opera) or in your profile directory (\Documents and Settings\{user name}\Application Data\Opera\Opera7\profile for 2k and XP or somewhere in \WINNT\profiles for Windows NT and quite possibly Win9x too but as I've never tried multiple profiles under Win9x, I wouldn't know where that
POS stores user specific profile information).
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Well I found the file and renamed a copy Opera.INI, but no matter where I stuck it DAP wasn't having any of it. According to the Opera website, DAP is Opera ready...
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Yes, hotsnoj, because dhtml is deprecated ****. If you really want to support it on Opera you can get a plugin btw.
Glow text is W3C standard by the way. Look at the CSS2 specification.
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Glow text is W3C standard by the way. Look at the CSS2 specification.
how could I know? i'm drunk.