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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stunaep on September 28, 2003, 12:23:50 pm

Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Stunaep on September 28, 2003, 12:23:50 pm: Another day to remembered. Probably everyone who lives in Europe (in the Scandinavia, Baltics and Germany in particular) must know about this disaster, often called the European Titanic.

Today, 9 years ago the MS Estonia sank in the Baltic Sea, due to reasons still debated. Of the 989 passengers and crew onboard, only 127 were rescued. Those 861 who died on that ship include the captain Avo Piht, the estonian singer Urmas Alender and others.

for more information, see http://www.multi.fi/~stigb/Estonia/estonia0.html

And be sure to turn off your speakers.

for a more ear-friendly site, see

http://www.estoniaferrydisaster.net/estonia/index.html
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Knight Templar on September 28, 2003, 12:31:26 pm: :wtf: Nobody knows why it sunk?
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Stunaep on September 28, 2003, 12:34:32 pm: Well, they know that it sunk because the visor fell off, but no-one has really given a universally recognised answer to why the visor fell off.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Ulundel on September 28, 2003, 12:41:21 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stunaep
because the visor fell off

Anyone who dares to laugh about that, gets a bullet.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: TheCelestialOne on September 28, 2003, 12:45:00 pm: I'm not gonna laugh but I just can't help but seeing Geordi fall of a boat with his visor...

Any way, my sympathy goes out to the families of those who died and the survivors.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Ulundel on September 28, 2003, 12:46:36 pm: One of my friends lost his mom out there.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Drew on September 28, 2003, 12:46:36 pm: :wft: is the visor?

(and i did laugh, it sounded funny)
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Knight Templar on September 28, 2003, 12:49:46 pm: *Bang!*

:nervous:
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Ulundel on September 28, 2003, 12:52:03 pm: Damn you punk! That was my line! :D
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Stunaep on September 28, 2003, 01:04:59 pm: to drew: A visor is the front end of a ROR-type ship, that is raised and lowered in the docks so the cars inside could get off.

Ukulele: I'm gonna shoot you just for kicks. :bleh:
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: kode on September 28, 2003, 01:13:07 pm: you know, if the papers weren't feeding me up about the stabbing of Anna Lindh, I'd probably would have known about it before now. a lot of swedes died in that disaster, so yeah, I guess I can pay some rememberance. cuz I only care about swedish citizens, you know. except the ones I don't like.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: karajorma on September 28, 2003, 01:48:08 pm: The brits heard a lot about this cause we had a similar disaster.
I seem to remember that at the time the British press mentioned that it was the Swedes who had blocked more stringent safety standards that the EU wanted to bring in after the earlier Zeebrugger ferry disaster.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: kode on September 28, 2003, 02:53:38 pm: oh, but just maybe the boat business people are good lobbyists?
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Zeronet on September 28, 2003, 02:54:03 pm: I,ve never heard of it, being 8 years old at the time probably has something to do with it.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: magatsu1 on September 28, 2003, 02:56:51 pm: Quote
Originally posted by karajorma
The brits heard a lot about this cause we had a similar disaster.
I seem to remember that at the time the British press mentioned that it was the Swedes who had blocked more stringent safety standards that the EU wanted to bring in after the earlier Zeebrugger ferry disaster.

I remember that myself. Forget the name of the ship though.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: karajorma on September 28, 2003, 05:55:39 pm: The British ship was called "The Herald of Free Enterprise" It wasn't as bad a disaster as the Estonia but a lot of people thought initially that there were similarities between the two.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: diamondgeezer on September 29, 2003, 10:58:51 am: Ah yes, I was trying to remember the name of the Herald. Nasty buisness. Bin across the Channel on car ferries nuff times, and there's always a nagging feeling that the boat is going to roll over with the next wave
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: karajorma on September 29, 2003, 05:49:00 pm: Well they have stopped setting off with the doors open now so it should be harder for it to happen again.
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: Pez on September 30, 2003, 03:51:40 pm: Did this happend 9 years ago? I've almost forgotten about Estonia. Goddamn, time really flies by. This was a huge tradegy in Sweden since around 500 of the ones who died was swedes. Several of my dad's coworker and a friends grandma died. Needless to say this sucked bigtime. :(
Title: 9 years from the Estonia Disaster
Post by: aldo_14 on September 30, 2003, 04:22:40 pm: They have the line of stone memorial for this, don;t they? I read about.