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Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 02, 2003, 02:17:25 pm
How many attempts did it take for you to complete this mission?
I didn't count it, because I was out of my trousers because I was very low on nerves. Tuned the difficulty down to 'Very Easy'. I could make it after the tenth try(approximetly), with two beams down. and the SD Beleth escaped :)
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Styxx on October 02, 2003, 02:21:39 pm
I got two beams down on the first try, but tried again and again till I got all four. :p
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: kasperl on October 02, 2003, 02:24:02 pm
pfffffffffffffff, i think about 20 try's on very easy, and letting the beleth go.

but with some practice, i do it in one on medium, with 2 beams and the beleth. i got all 4 plus flak once, but i never get 4 plus flak plus rear plus beleth
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: magatsu1 on October 02, 2003, 02:24:32 pm
took me about half a dozen tries untill I remembered double fire mode and rearming. Never managed to nail the flak guns though.
Takes too long to rearm.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Drew on October 02, 2003, 02:33:02 pm
a couple times, tho i only was able to take down 2 guns and the beleth
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Post by: pyro-manic on October 02, 2003, 02:38:18 pm
About 4, I think. I can't remember, it was years ago!
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Post by: kode on October 02, 2003, 02:52:59 pm
1st try, three beams
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 02, 2003, 03:00:05 pm
Whaaoo! First try and three beams down? :eek2:
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Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 02, 2003, 03:40:14 pm
I don't count how many tries it takes. But I think it was around 6-10 and I only nailed two of the guns. Second time around on Hard level it probably took 10+ because the Beleth kept wacking me. I've never taken down all four guns AND the flak. I send two flights of bombers against the damn flak and they can't get the job done the useless turds.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: magatsu1 on October 02, 2003, 03:49:57 pm
I just tell the other fighters to cover me.
(and the debriefing accuses Alpha 1 of being incompetent):mad:
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: kode on October 02, 2003, 03:55:54 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
Whaaoo! First try and three beams down? :eek2:


well... I was lucky. probably in perfect shape too.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Nico on October 02, 2003, 04:08:57 pm
well, I did the mission on the first try, but I doubt  I got more than two beams ( can't remember, to be honest ).
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Post by: aldo_14 on October 02, 2003, 04:37:45 pm
1 - got 2 beams.  I'm quite surprised that people would have redo that, cos i'm crap at Freespace.
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Post by: Taristin on October 02, 2003, 04:39:13 pm
I only remember doing it once, but it was ages ago...
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Drew on October 02, 2003, 05:01:31 pm
eventually i would just cheat that mission playing through the camp again it was so dam hard....
and boring to...
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Post by: Goober5000 on October 02, 2003, 06:00:39 pm
I think I managed to get the two beams within the first few tries, but it took ages to be able to get all four reliably.  I finally figured out that you have to hit the arms at just the right angle - maneuver so you're directly in front of the Sath, then get real close to the arm.  Jiggle the fighter until you see a large flat surface, then fire. :D Knocks them out every time.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Nameless on October 02, 2003, 06:17:33 pm
Got 3 the frist time and settled for that. Thou luck may have been a huge factor I finished the mission with like 5% hull.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: ChronoReverse on October 02, 2003, 08:02:07 pm
Only 2 on my first time.  But I replayed it about 20 more times and couldn't even get 2 anymore and eventually bumped the difficulty to VERY EASY just to blow them all up out of frustration.
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Post by: Black Wolf on October 02, 2003, 09:24:00 pm
Actually, when I first played Bearbating I was somewhat disapointed. 4 beams, first try. Admittedly, I didn't get any flak and it took me until the second go to take out the Demon, but I was expecting more of a challenge.. Don't remember the difficulty though, was probably "Pathetic" or something :)
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Post by: Blue Lion on October 02, 2003, 10:33:26 pm
I actually beat the game the first time around, every mission, first time around.

It was on Very Easy, so sue me
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Post by: Gloriano on October 03, 2003, 06:58:59 am
i destroyed all four beams
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Post by: Taristin on October 03, 2003, 07:23:30 am
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
I actually beat the game the first time around, every mission, first time around.

It was on Very Easy, so sue me


Same here:nervous:

Well, except for maybe one or two, when I couldn't figure what they wanted done, but I immediately redid them.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: ChronoReverse on October 03, 2003, 08:36:09 am
What happened to me is due completely to me starting the game on Very Hard and bumping it down to Hard for most of the rest of the game (with extremely annoying missions that I just CAN'T beat bumped to Easy out of frustration).
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 03, 2003, 08:38:30 am
Sometimes I cannot understand those people, who start a new game on Verh Hard for the very first time. I decided to stop playing on Medium skill for the very first time in the case of Jedi Knight II. I managed to beat the game, but I am playing on easy since that.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: magatsu1 on October 03, 2003, 12:09:43 pm
and here's me thinkin' all you guys were all FS masters, played on very hard and kicked it's ass every time.

I'm dissapointed. You guys suck. ;) :lol:
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Post by: Descenterace on October 03, 2003, 01:22:57 pm
First time through the game: 3 Beams in one attempt.  Second time: about 4 attempts to get 2 Beams.  Latest (on Medium instead of Easy): about 10 attempts to figure out the correct approacha angle, 4 to take out two Beams, another 6 before I got all four, and then another try to avoid getting vaporised by one of the Beleth's Beams while divebombing...  The last try involved perfect angle of approach vs all the Sathanas forward Beams (two Helii on each), one Helios into a Sathanas Flak gun, one Helios into a Beleth Beam Cannon, then the remaining two into the Beleth's engines.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 03, 2003, 02:44:22 pm
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Originally posted by magatsu1
...
I'm dissapointed. You guys suck. ;) :lol:


Thank you in the name of the community :)
Now, Mr. Master, can you answer us 'which was first, the hen or the egg?'
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Post by: pyro-manic on October 03, 2003, 03:06:04 pm
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Originally posted by magatsu1
I'm dissapointed. You guys suck. ;) :lol:


Hey! Screw you, then! :D :p
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Post by: nucas on October 05, 2003, 04:38:03 pm
i took down two beams on the first run, brought down four on the second. all in the afterburners.
never managed to bring down the flak. i generally assign my incompetent wingmen that task, which they fail at. horribly.
i don't remember if i managed the bring down the beleth as well. it's been too long.
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Post by: phreak on October 05, 2003, 05:14:42 pm
first time through: 2
i can get 4 on medium
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Post by: Culando on October 05, 2003, 05:40:42 pm
I THINK, I knocked down 3 of them and blasted the destroyer on my first time not dieing. I could be wrong.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Setekh on October 06, 2003, 05:43:19 am
Bearbaiting tormented me, because I took down all four beams on Insane on the very first try, and then - I jumped out by accident, not knowing that the Beleth was about to arrive in-system. So I replayed the mission, took down the four, and found the bonus cannon. :p So, 2 attempts.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: magatsu1 on October 07, 2003, 05:01:24 pm
Quote
Originally posted by TopAce


Thank you in the name of the community :)
Now, Mr. Master, can you answer us 'which was first, the hen or the egg?'


The Hen. It evolved.
Next Question. :D
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Sandwich on October 07, 2003, 05:48:10 pm
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Originally posted by Setekh
Bearbaiting tormented me, because I took down all four beams on Insane on the very first try, and then - I jumped out by accident, not knowing that the Beleth was about to arrive in-system. So I replayed the mission, took down the four, and found the bonus cannon. :p So, 2 attempts.


I really really dislike you.

And I don't remember how many tries - I think I got 2 on the first try and simply went on and got the other 2 in the next mission.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Flipside on October 07, 2003, 05:52:51 pm
Which came first?

I always thought it was the Cockerel ;)

Sorry

Flipside :D
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Descenterace on October 08, 2003, 07:16:30 am
It was the egg.  This is a fact.  Genetic alteration occurs almost always between hen and egg, but rarely between egg and hen.  So the egg could come from a bird that wasn't actually a hen (but genetically very close, of course).

Now let's please not start another argument about evolution.
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Post by: karajorma on October 08, 2003, 07:34:24 am
Bah you're all missing the point. Nowhere in the question does it say the egg is a chickens egg. So the egg was first since there were creatures that laid eggs for millions of years before the chicken came along :D
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 08, 2003, 11:13:51 am
Quote
Originally posted by magatsu1

The Hen. It evolved.
Next Question. :D


:D

You are absolutely cool.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Deathstorm V2 on October 08, 2003, 12:57:12 pm
I got all four beams and one flak gun on my first try, but then got a face first look at the inside of a Sathanas.  16 tries later, all 4 beams, both flak arrays, and the Beleth reduced to Shivan-coloured space dust.  Phoenicia and the Vasudan corvette survived.

16 tries?  Damn, I'm pathetic.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: magatsu1 on October 08, 2003, 02:48:21 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce


:D

You are absolutely cool.


um, thankyou ?
*not sure if TopAce is being sarcastic*
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Post by: Sandwich on October 08, 2003, 03:46:30 pm
Wow - from Beam Cannons to Evolution in 4 Easy Steps, by Dr. HLP. :p
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Post by: Setekh on October 09, 2003, 07:37:25 am
All roads lead to ridiculous discussion at HLP. :D
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Post by: TrashMan on October 09, 2003, 07:09:27 pm
About 4 tries...

Got 3 beams down and blasted the Beleth to dust! And I was VERY nervous, since I was left with 2% hull after the Sath jumped out!
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 10, 2003, 03:25:15 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Wow - from Beam Cannons to Evolution in 4 Easy Steps, by Dr. HLP. :p


:lol:
:)
;)
:D
;7
:yes:

How right!
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: magatsu1 on October 10, 2003, 04:24:34 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Wow - from Beam Cannons to Evolution in 4 Easy Steps, by Dr. HLP. :p


was that my fault ?!!:rolleyes: :p
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 10, 2003, 04:26:00 pm
The question was from me. It wanted to be rather comical than serious.
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Post by: magatsu1 on October 10, 2003, 04:30:39 pm
yeah but you were responding to my "funny comment" !

time to let this thread die, me thinks.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 11, 2003, 10:30:53 am
it still has a few chance to remain alive for at most a week.
*Putting thread under breathing machine*
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Post by: Lutz on October 11, 2003, 10:52:08 am
I took out 2 beams on the first attempt, thought I could do better, restarted, and couldn't do anything at all!

Took me about 6 more attempts to even get two. Did it another two times and got 3, settled for that. Will be doing it properly next time. When I get it working. It was on medium difficulty though.
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Post by: TrashMan on October 11, 2003, 11:24:50 am
I allways play on heavy or very heavy.
I need a challenge (alltough those sitting ducks that are caling themselvs enemy fighters aren't one really....)

AI - Artificial Idioticy  Or Apsurd Idiots
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: Thylrial on October 19, 2003, 09:18:37 am
Sorry to bring back this thread, although it isn't that old. Not yet.

I have a silly question about this mission: what is this bonus objective Setekh spoke about? I played through the campaign a few times, but I have never seen that canon. I didn't really look for it either, I was busy enough with the front beams.

And to answer the question, two beams down the first time around. (Medium level) After that the four beams are usually down, if I manage to survive that is. Am I the only one who has more problems with the fighter escort than with the Sathanas itself? These fighters are very skilled at ruining the day and preventing me from surviving. They must know that the biggest threat in the universe is neither the Colossus nor their Sathani fleet, but Alpha 1.

Fifteen ships are supposed to deal with the escort wings, but they aren't quite effective. They seem to behave more like unarmed drones than actual fighters or bombers, as they are shot down at an impressive rate. (Less than two minutes of fighting and four wings down. Good luck Alpha One with the Beleth) Sure, they aren't attacking me at least. (A friendly trebuchet killing you right before the end of the mission is *so* frustrating)
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Post by: Hippo on October 19, 2003, 09:32:26 am
that beam is under the fighterbay... fly strait under the ship to find it...
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Post by: Thylrial on October 19, 2003, 10:18:12 am
Thanks for the tip, I will check it out next time I play that mission.
Title: Be honest: Bearbaiting
Post by: TopAce on October 20, 2003, 08:46:09 am
It's evident that only a few pilots can meet that goal, it is very hidden. I haven't known it until I had a look at that mission is FRED.

No bonus score is given to any goals completed in the [V] campaign, so I don't waste my time on things like this. I would rather concentrate on destroying the fighters. I get SCORE for them.(Not much, but Not much > 0. :))