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Title: 'One year ago at HLP': a thought about it.
Post by: TopAce on October 04, 2003, 10:30:00 am
I think this new feature may have a setback:
It makes the one-year old threads easily bumpable without doing any search. Guests may find something they would want to comment, register, and bump up an extremely old thread for his first post. Do you think I am right about this?
Title: 'One year ago at HLP': a thought about it.
Post by: Black Wolf on October 04, 2003, 10:38:09 am
There's a warning on old threads that should prevent this I think
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Post by: diamondgeezer on October 04, 2003, 10:59:54 am
Well it won't prevent it a such, but at least we can sugar our flames with a 'you were warned' disclaimer :nod:
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Post by: Styxx on October 04, 2003, 11:51:33 am
We had a discussion about this while implementing it, and the warning was found sufficient deterrent. If someone still posts after reading it, he must have a really good reason.
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Post by: Zeronet on October 04, 2003, 12:22:48 pm
What feature? Where?

EDIT: Oh, that thing at the bottom of t3h main p4g3.
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Post by: Bobboau on October 04, 2003, 12:30:28 pm
/*assuming I have extrapolated enough about this*/
maybe you could have those threads auto-locked for a day or two
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Post by: vyper on October 04, 2003, 12:48:04 pm
Oooh, one of my old art threads is on it.... :D

I like the idea
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Post by: Nico on October 04, 2003, 01:17:28 pm
something I never quite understood: what's the problem with bumping old threads? Do they carry some sort of disease? Sounds more sensible to me to bump an old thread than create a new one dealing with the same topic ( and when some dude asks for something, people will tell him to search for old topics :rolleyes: something's seriously flawed there ).
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Post by: kasperl on October 04, 2003, 01:21:04 pm
/me looked at the trick
/me found the old practical jokes thread
/me likes, a lot
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Post by: karajorma on October 04, 2003, 01:59:28 pm
One problem with bumping old threads is that quite often you can read quite a distance down them before you realise that they are actually old (which I tend to find quite annoying).
 A bigger problem is that they can sometimes reignite old flame wars.
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Post by: TopAce on October 04, 2003, 02:14:42 pm
But one of the advantages of thread bumping is that newbies arrived after the thread had sunk down can write their opinions about the topic it is about.

Disadvantages: Some of you(excluding me, and others who are not against thread bumping) may post 'Why did you bump this?' message. I don't know why is it so disadvantageous, maybe I am having mood for typing :)
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Post by: StratComm on October 04, 2003, 02:19:16 pm
Thread bumping was really bad when Setekh was gone; his avatar is really noticable and people would think "Oh Steak's back!" before realizing that the post was made over a year before.  It is also annoying to see the same really old topics float up again and again.  I think that the best way to bring up new thoughts on old issues is to READ the older thread and then post a new thread refering back to the old one with new thoughts thrown in.  Just makes more sense to me.

And if you're just going to quote someone and say "Yeah, I agree" then you are REALLY wasting everyone's time.
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Post by: Nico on October 05, 2003, 05:02:25 am
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I think that the best way to bring up new thoughts on old issues is to READ the older thread and then post a new thread refering back to the old one with new thoughts thrown in. Just makes more sense to me.

well, I don't, so it doesn't make much sense to me ( arf, that's a killer, how to argue with that? :D ) :p

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One problem with bumping old threads is that quite often you can read quite a distance down them before you realise that they are actually old (which I tend to find quite annoying).


I suppose that can be prevented easily ( say, after a post has reached a certain age, the text in  it turns red, et voila ).
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Post by: Sandwich on October 05, 2003, 08:44:23 am
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Originally posted by StratComm
Thread bumping was really bad when Setekh was gone; his avatar is really noticable and people would think "Oh Steak's back!" before realizing that the post was made over a year before.


Soooo true!! :lol:
Title: 'One year ago at HLP': a thought about it.
Post by: Setekh on October 05, 2003, 08:53:01 am
I had no idea I caused so much trouble in my absence... sorry... :nervous: ;)

Well, now that I'm back, you can bump to your heart's content. :D
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Post by: Taristin on October 05, 2003, 09:14:55 am
Don't say that...
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Post by: vyper on October 05, 2003, 02:00:03 pm
:bump: :D
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Post by: TopAce on October 05, 2003, 02:45:36 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
:bump:

I got an idea: Can somebody do a 'Bumped' smiley? :lol:
When the smiley points his finger upwards.
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 05, 2003, 03:13:14 pm
(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/bump.gif)
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Post by: TopAce on October 05, 2003, 03:15:52 pm
:D
Very good
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Post by: Sandwich on October 05, 2003, 07:27:26 pm
OOh, you're an amazing smiley artist KT and I wanna be like you how'd you do that one did it take long?

:rolleyes: :p
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 05, 2003, 07:31:02 pm
We all can't be as perfect as me.. sorry.
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Post by: Turnsky on October 05, 2003, 07:31:10 pm
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/bump.gif)


i've only got one thing to say to that.. :p

(http://users.bigpond.com/turnsky/images/plascannon.gif)

;) :p ;)
Title: 'One year ago at HLP': a thought about it.
Post by: Knight Templar on October 05, 2003, 07:33:15 pm
Poser. :p
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Post by: Gloriano on October 06, 2003, 02:21:54 am
that HLP 1 year ago box was good idea i think:)
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Post by: Setekh on October 06, 2003, 04:54:25 am
Personally, I love it. Great reminder of our history... which we kinda have now, being a couple of years old now. :)
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Post by: Sandwich on October 06, 2003, 06:21:47 am
Can't wait to do a "One Decade Ago..." :D
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Post by: Setekh on October 06, 2003, 07:01:42 am
I can wait... ;)

That said, it'd be pretty awesome if we make it that far. :):yes:
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 06, 2003, 06:30:57 pm
God help me if I'm still here. :nervous:
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Post by: Sandwich on October 07, 2003, 01:23:03 am
God help us all if that's the case. :p
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 07, 2003, 01:44:25 am
I'm not worried personally. I don't think HLP could contain me for another 10 years. ;)
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Post by: icespeed on October 07, 2003, 03:21:39 am
no, in ten years time we won't need a 'a decade ago' box; in ten years time, hlp will have taken over the universe and poor kids in school will have to learn about its humble beginnings and how it managed to conquer everyone else.
Title: 'One year ago at HLP': a thought about it.
Post by: Setekh on October 07, 2003, 03:38:50 am
That's a... scary thought. Well, let's create a history we'll be proud of then, shall we? ;)
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Post by: Turnsky on October 07, 2003, 03:40:47 am
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Originally posted by icespeed
no, in ten years time we won't need a 'a decade ago' box; in ten years time, hlp will have taken over the universe and poor kids in school will have to learn about its humble beginnings and how it managed to conquer everyone else.


especially how we won "the battle of Silicon Valley":p
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Post by: HotSnoJ on October 07, 2003, 08:07:52 am
Hmm, ten years from now... I can see myself here.
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Post by: kasperl on October 07, 2003, 09:59:45 am
me too, i might actually be able to mod by then.
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Post by: Gloriano on October 07, 2003, 10:02:40 am
by then i am 37
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Post by: TopAce on October 07, 2003, 02:05:07 pm
Talking about decades here ...
I have doubt FreeSpace would survive even three more years. :doubt:

I am not an optimistic man by default.
Title: 'One year ago at HLP': a thought about it.
Post by: Setekh on October 08, 2003, 04:28:15 am
By ten years time I wonder how much of this will all be related to FS at all. The truth is, though, that HL is the biggest forum by a long-shot, and there is hardly any FS discussion in here. While I believe that FS still has quite some time left in it - maybe not in the form that it is now, but the universe itself has a lot of potential - I think the best thing about HLP is the atmosphere, which is a result of the consistency of the members to be helpful, skilled (after an amount of HLP 'exposure'), enthusiastic, and fun-loving. That stays, HLP stays. :nod:
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Post by: HotSnoJ on October 08, 2003, 04:57:05 am
The only reason(s) I see HLP dieing or no longer really doing FreeSpace modding, is if we *gasp* get real lives (think TCO only more extream, not that getting married and possibly raising a family is a bad thing TCO).

Can you guy's see yourselves acting like guy's do with football our someother sport? I.E. one of us talk/teaching or sons/daughters about FS modding? :sigh: Such happy thoughts. :nod:
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Post by: Setekh on October 08, 2003, 05:11:10 am
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Originally posted by HotSnoJ
The only reason(s) I see HLP dieing or no longer really doing FreeSpace modding, is if we *gasp* get real lives (think TCO only more extream, not that getting married and possibly raising a family is a bad thing TCO).

Can you guy's see yourselves acting like guy's do with football our someother sport? I.E. one of us talk/teaching or sons/daughters about FS modding? :sigh: Such happy thoughts. :nod:


Well, I am hoping I'll get married and have a family eventually - and you'd better believe I'm going to grow them up as the next HLP admins, dudes. :D

Hmmm... you know, I'd never thought of doing that before. Heh, old-school... ;)
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Post by: Gloriano on October 08, 2003, 05:15:23 am
i am married and raising family but still i stay here this because this place is  very nice all thanks to (Setekh,Kalifireth,Styxx,maeg,shrike,Carl and Sandwich):) :yes:
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Post by: Setekh on October 08, 2003, 05:29:14 am
It's nice to have you here too, Gloriano. It's the people, I'm telling you. :)
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Post by: karajorma on October 08, 2003, 06:28:40 am
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
i am married and raising family but still i stay here this because this place is  very nice all thanks to (Setekh,Kalifireth,Styxx,maeg,shrike and Sandwich):) :yes:


Waits for Carl to ban him for missing him out. :D
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Post by: Gloriano on October 08, 2003, 06:38:26 am
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Originally posted by karajorma


Waits for Carl to ban him for missing him out. :D


:nervous:*thorws cow to Carl*:nervous:

Setekh: i know but w/o good admins like you self so what i am saying it's helps lot too
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 08, 2003, 09:27:33 pm
You forgot me. They make it nice, but I make it sexy.
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Post by: HotSnoJ on October 08, 2003, 10:13:50 pm
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
Kalifireth
Come on, get it straight people. It's Thunder as in crash, crash, KABOOOM!! :rolleyes:


Anyway, HLP is nice. I like the old game forums, for games like HardWar and FreeSpace. :nod:
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Post by: Setekh on October 09, 2003, 04:39:17 am
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
:nervous:*thorws cow to Carl*:nervous:

Setekh: i know but w/o good admins like you self so what i am saying it's helps lot too


It's a privilege to admin this place, trust me. ;)
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Post by: J.F.K. on October 09, 2003, 10:38:44 pm
If this place survives that long... wow. That'll be an achievement. :):yes:
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Post by: Deepblue on October 09, 2003, 10:44:18 pm
I just finished reading Lord of the Flies and it has now convinced me that anything will deteriorate solely due to Human Nature.
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 09, 2003, 10:47:54 pm
Tell me, I just started it for english, does it get better than the first 30 pages? :doubt:
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Post by: Deepblue on October 09, 2003, 10:50:51 pm
Depends on what you like. If you like mantally dark and scarry you will love the end. The begining is a bit tedious but its a quick read.
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 09, 2003, 10:53:11 pm
I just think the intro is rather lacking for.. introducing the story. Of course, I'm only 32 pages into it, so shoot me.
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Post by: Deepblue on October 09, 2003, 11:10:41 pm
My trust in human nature has been severely depleted this year. While we are reading Lord of the Flies in geography, we are also reading Animal Farm in LA.
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Post by: Knight Templar on October 09, 2003, 11:13:40 pm
Heh, I also just finished Animal Farm. Good book, probably my favourite in the last two years. A lot of what I liked though was the connection to history. It was great in that it was a moral story in it's own right, but it also portrayed part of real life (Ironically stupid) a long with it.

But as many of my classmates discovered, without knowing the connection, 'it's just a stupid book about talking animals....'
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Post by: Nico on October 10, 2003, 01:56:38 am
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Originally posted by Deepblue
My trust in human nature has been severely depleted this year. While we are reading Lord of the Flies in geography, we are also reading Animal Farm in LA.


Heh, I suggest you read the newspapers, then your trust in human nature will be completly gone :p
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Post by: Setekh on October 10, 2003, 04:01:46 am
The general suckiness of human nature is half the reason why I'm a Christian...
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Post by: vyper on October 10, 2003, 04:10:01 am
All life sucks, just accept it and find ways to prove the point.