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Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 05, 2003, 09:59:28 pm

Bob, what prog did you use to get that perseus to convert?

PCS gives up immediately, and cob2pof high limits goes to the end, but then dies a valliant death...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 05, 2003, 10:35:26 pm

kazan compiled me a specal build, I gues I should post it
/*uploads pcs with a four megabyte geometry buffer*/
try this (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/PCS.zip)

and while I'm at it
http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/fs2_open_htl_c.zip

NOTE, THAT IS A BUILD I MADE, I HAVE A CORUPTED LIB, THEREFORE THAT EXE WILL BEHAVE BADDLY, IN ADDITION TO THE CRAPY LIGHTING SYSTEM, oh yes the crappy ligh management system, I am in the middle of reworking it and it's current state is worse than ever, I don't recomend useing that in game too much...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: WMCoolmon on October 05, 2003, 10:47:32 pm

:eek: What Perseus?

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 05, 2003, 11:08:04 pm

this (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/fighter2t-03.zip) perseus

don't do anything but look at it, it has no data, so it won't work realy well in game
it won't load in anything other that the exe I posted, and I alredy warned you about that
it was only for testing of the capabilitys on the new engine

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Galemp on October 06, 2003, 03:38:52 am

yay!

*goes off to meshsmooth the Viraj*

Errrrr... I mean Mentu. Yeah. That's it. :nervous:

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Raptor on October 06, 2003, 05:04:12 am

opens file in modview

'phewwww!'

5378 polys, and 5264 vertices!  Thats quite a few.

pretty good, but personally, I think the fins at the rear of the engines looked better when they were squared off at the ends.

needs a little work with the skin, but overall :nod::yes:

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 06, 2003, 05:05:33 pm

It didn't open in modelview for me... :confused:

And that PCS didn't work either... :( SDL.dll not found, or summat.

I'll ask Kazan for a copy. Maybe he'll be nice and make one. :p :D

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: WMCoolmon on October 06, 2003, 05:07:58 pm

Nah, you don't need to ask...just download the latest version and then try the special version :D: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,14325.0.html

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 06, 2003, 05:16:13 pm

Whoops, He's gonna love the message I ICQed him then... lol

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 06, 2003, 06:03:33 pm

Hm... Still crashes on every model I try to convert... Shame...

Edit... Ok, i think I know why...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 06, 2003, 09:31:57 pm

uh, you have to put that exe in the PCS folder, becase Kazan has a dynamic link fedish or something
/*just kidding*/

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: TopAce on October 07, 2003, 03:28:46 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Bobboau
this (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/fighter2t-03.zip) perseus

ModelView says error 6008: Too many vertices >4000. :(

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 07, 2003, 03:40:31 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Bobboau
uh, you have to put that exe in the PCS folder, becase Kazan has a dynamic link fedish or something
/*just kidding*/

Oh, I knew that... I meant that even with that new exe, it can't convert my Anuket...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: diamondgeezer on October 07, 2003, 04:08:27 pm

Quote

Originally posted by TopAce
ModelView says error 6008: Too many vertices >4000. :(

Which version of Model View you got there my pedigree chum? Try this one (www.swooh.com/peon/diamondgeezer/blah/ModelView 5b.exe), it's the latest one I know of. It's only a guess that you're using an older and lower limit version, but in any case new versions of ModelView = 1337 :nod:

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Flipside on October 07, 2003, 04:12:25 pm

LOL Nice Perseus, dontcha just love Metaform ;)

Flipside :D

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 07, 2003, 04:34:06 pm

Nice dead link, DG... :doubt:

Edit: Works now :)

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: phreak on October 07, 2003, 04:40:53 pm

for some reason, OGL HT&L (yes im doing it) detects the perseus has an obsence number of polygons. like 1 billion or so. its crashing FSO

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: diamondgeezer on October 07, 2003, 04:48:47 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Nice dead link, DG... :doubt:

Edit: Works now :)

:ha:

*steals Raa's lawnmower*

*runs*

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 07, 2003, 08:46:19 pm

in 2d.h raise the MAX_POLYGON_TRI_POINTS to 25000, the limit I had before was too small for a model of this size and was overwriteing the n_poly in all but the first index of the poly list array

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: phreak on October 08, 2003, 08:48:25 am

ok

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 07:40:35 pm

:( Still can't convert my Anuket...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 07:53:21 pm

what exactly happens?
what exactly are you doing?

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 07:55:46 pm

I use the subdivide button on the mesh, then use the 'extract final mesh from subdivide object' button, recombine the LOD's from the original, with the high-poly one replacing the original LOD-a, then I save the whole bit as a cob.

I open PCS, click cob to pof, and it does one of 2 things: 1 - Crashes immediately, or 2 - Holds for 3 seconds, then crashes...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 07:58:07 pm

by crashes, is that illigal operation, closes down, or just doesn't seem to be doing anything (like it locks up and you can't do anything but ctrl alt del and close it)?

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 08:00:07 pm

I get the generic win2k error message:  "PCS.exe has generated errors and will be closed by windows."  This time around it held for about 6 seconds, and the tabs all disappeared, then I got the death notice.

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 08:20:37 pm

hmm, how may polys is it again?
maybe you shuld put it up and let me take a crack at it.

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 08:28:46 pm

All LOD's, turrets, destroyed turrets and debris combined is 14423 polies (In TS)

Here it is uploaded...(600k) (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/miner2v-01.cob)

It's probably that my PC isn't powerful enough to convert it, because even a loley persues, without all of the subdivision, only a little quad-dividing on the round bits won't convert.

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 09:02:10 pm

you'r higherarchy is all screwed up, all those turrets need lights, and the main LOD was in a sub object to the lowest LOD
I think you took it one too many subdivisions, I havn't tested poly ounts quite this high, though it is alredy triangulated, so it might be ok

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 09:04:19 pm

...? It looked normal in TrueView, and I could have sworn I had lights on each and every one of those turrets.

It's level 2 subdivide, but you said 10-20k polies, no? The main body is only like 8k...  Stupid Truespace...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 09:08:39 pm

it won't let me save...
Stupid Truespace...
and it might (should) work, I just havn't tested quite that high yet
oh, I got the cob to convert, took 33 seconds on my athlon 3000, though it will have the incorect hierachy

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 09:13:37 pm

I just fixed everything, and still PCS crashes, do you want another copy?

Edit: Oh, I guess not...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 09:14:33 pm

sure

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 09:16:25 pm

Try that original link again, I re-uploaded it.

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 09:23:27 pm

actualy that's even worse than before, the mining claw seems to be missing now,
what version of TS are you useing?

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 09:26:05 pm

TS6 for that one...  And everything is fine in TrueView, like I said...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 09:28:06 pm

See?

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 09:28:35 pm

for simplicity sake why not just cut the lower detail levels

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 09:30:33 pm

the abstract group miner02va-hull should have all the lower detail levels in it and be the top of thr group

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 09:31:56 pm

Debris too? Yeah, I guess...

Edit: Really? This has always worked for me before... but I guess we can try this again...

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 08, 2003, 09:35:47 pm

http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/anuket.cob

or
http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/images/mods/snipes/anuket2.cob

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Bobboau on October 08, 2003, 09:53:27 pm

http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/miner2v-01.zip
hope you've got a good graphics card

all I did was convert it, and look at it in the tech room, it still needs pof data
you should be pleased with it though

Title: What program will convert 10,000 poly ships?
Post by: Taristin on October 09, 2003, 12:59:27 pm

Well, my card really isn't great, but I'm gonna try it anyway. :D
Thanks. I'll import the data in PCS