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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: WMCoolmon on October 11, 2003, 01:33:36 am

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: WMCoolmon on October 11, 2003, 01:33:36 am

Does anyone else see a parallel?

England taxes the colonists...the colonists get angry...England tries to enforce policies ironhandedly...colonists rebel.

RIAA raises CD prices...consumers get angry...RIAA tries to enforce policies ironhandedly...

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Setekh on October 11, 2003, 01:38:16 am

History cycles 0wn the world, you know. :nervous:

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Bobboau on October 11, 2003, 01:54:34 am

yes, this is going to get very interesting.

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: diamondgeezer on October 11, 2003, 07:27:20 am

Reciprocity

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Ashrak on October 11, 2003, 07:57:11 am

RIAA is a bunch of ****tards ... if theyd LOWER the prices people would buy stuff

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: an0n on October 11, 2003, 08:00:56 am

Well I wouldn't.

I have over 600 songs on my playlist and not one of them has been legally purchased.

Infact the only music I have ever bought in any form is an AC/DC: Highway To Hell vynil second-hand at a car-boot sale.

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Stealth on October 11, 2003, 08:39:50 am

yeah.  i have a good 3000+ on my computer at the moment, and about 2000 on disk, plus about 1000 in soundtrack albums (lord of the rings 1, 2, starwars 1, 2, matrix 1, 2, dune, war of the worlds, etc.).  i don't download as much as i used to, but it doesn't stop me when i need a song from going and downloading it.  and from what i've heard they don't (the RIAA) go for people downloading, only people sharing...so it's the people i'm downloading from that'll get in trouble ;)

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: an0n on October 11, 2003, 09:08:51 am

Congratulations, you're playing right into the RIAA's hands.

Not only are you actively preventing the redistribution of illegally copied music, but you're also directly opposing the founding principals of every p2p network from here to the dark, shrivelled side of Uranus purely to save your own ass from prosecution on shaky grounds by a corporate entity with little to no credibility left amongst the general populous. For-shame. You are a blight to every Super-Noder out there. You, sir, are what is commonly known as: A Goddamn Leech!

*burns Stealth from the supple, life-blood soaked flesh of the intardnet*

Not that I give a rats furry, little ass.

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Stealth on October 11, 2003, 11:40:16 am

i'm not falling into the RIAA's hands, it's the people i'm downloading from that are :D

I've had my share of "sharing"... i used to have (back on DSL) thousands of MP3s shared 24/7... i just stopped for obvious reasons ;)  

i've been downloading/sharing since late 97, but i've stopped sharing since late 2002, now i just leech ;)

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: vyper on October 11, 2003, 11:52:44 am

He said playing, not falling, and he was right.

I agree with an0n.


:nervous:
I feel violated.

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Stealth on October 11, 2003, 11:54:24 am

agree all you want.

i'm downloading MP3s and i'm not going to be caught by the RIAA... see?  i win both ways... leech or not.

EDIT:  although i do feel slightly bad for downloading but not sharing :-/  but like i said, i don't download as much as i used to... only when i think of a song i want.  i don't download whole albums anymore (well, even if i wanted to, 56K makes it a little hard :D)  but i have done (and do) my fair share of "sharing"

now that i check, i DO still share on WinMX (which i use the most of all programs nowadays), on Kazaa i don't, but i've got a few files on MX. as far as i know the RIAA haven't started tracing people on MX yet, so...

Title: Re: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Grey Wolf on October 11, 2003, 02:09:29 pm

Quote

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
England taxes the colonists...the colonists get angry...England tries to enforce policies ironhandedly...colonists rebel.

You must also remember that both sides there viewed the world through their own perceptions. The British government (I believe it was Great Britain by that point) viewed the taxes as entirely just, considering they were paying for British troops defending the colonies and to offset the costs of the North American theatre of the Seven Years War, and British subjects of that era payed significantly higher taxes.
The colonists, meanwhile, only saw the freedom they had during the earlier years when the British government had not really payed attention to them start to be infringed.  This caused them to misinterpret actions by the British, such as the Quebec Act and the decision to give the Britsh East India Company a monopoly on importing tea, which would have actually given the colonists tea for cheaper than the prices they were then paying Dutch smugglers.

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: vyper on October 11, 2003, 03:10:18 pm

Yeah I meant to pick that up - its British by that time, not English.

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: demon442 on October 12, 2003, 02:00:39 am

Quote

Originally posted by an0n
Congratulations, you're playing right into the RIAA's hands.
...

Damn right I am.  When I feel the need to download a song, I download it.  It's not my problem that the super-node is being targeted by the RIAA, it's their fault for not switching to a safer service.  It's not my fault that if they are caught, they will pay for it the rest of their pimply little lives.  And it's also not my fault that, although I support P2P services, I can use them for my purposes without much restriction.

The RIAA and MPAA are taking us one step closer to the utpoian society where everyone wakes up at 6 AM, dresses in a suit, kisses the spouse, and goes to work on a computer assembly line, all the while listening to the same repeating message: "The State is Life, The State is Prosperity, The State is Happiness..."  And these people will not know any better, for they were brainwashed in their youth that freedom is bad for free nations.  They will go about their happy little generic lives and not care about the 'ancient history' of the early 21st century.

So, I don't care about the means, just the end.

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Kazan on October 12, 2003, 12:16:08 pm

you act like Leech is a bad word - where i come from the rules are

100% Leech, NO TRADES/NO RATIOS/NO QUOTA/NO ADVERTISING

Violate the rules, you're banned, first ban 24 hours - that's your warnging, do it again and you're BANT - permanantly

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: Stealth on October 12, 2003, 04:16:46 pm

the man's right!  

what am i saying!?

i'm a leech, and i'm proud of it!

kthx Kazan :D

Title: Copyright Infringement and the American Revolution
Post by: kode on October 12, 2003, 04:33:25 pm

ratios are the ways of the devil.