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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Setekh on October 14, 2003, 10:25:01 pm

Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 14, 2003, 10:25:01 pm
I wonder how many have you done this little thought exercise before. Okay, here's what I can tell you about the game:

1. The name of the game is Petals Around The Rose. The name is important.
2. The answer will always be even, or 0.
3. You can be told the answer for each roll of the dice (of which there are 5).

If you know the answer already or succeed in figuring it out, then:

[q]If you succeed in working out the secret to the game you become a member of the Fraternity of Petals Around the Rose. You must pledge to be a cruel and heartless wretch who will never divulge the secret of the game to anyone else. Only those that can work it out for themselves should know the secret of Petals Around the Rose.[/q]

If you think you found the secret, PM me. If you are exactly correct, I will reply telling you so. If you are wrong - even if you're very close - I will reply with "That is not the secret". I do want you to find the secret, but all I can tell you along the way is in the 3 points above.

Without further ado, the link:

http://www.borrett.wattle.id.au/computing/petals-j.htm
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: karajorma on October 15, 2003, 07:15:41 am
Ummmm. What's to stop me looking at the Javascript on that page and cheating?
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 15, 2003, 07:18:14 am
Your ethics. :p
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: icespeed on October 15, 2003, 07:25:56 am
this is the most beeping annoying thing in the world... at least currently.
admittedly im not putting any effort into it, which might help.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Taristin on October 15, 2003, 07:40:50 am
Um... Nah. Even if by some miracle I could figure it out, I don't want to be a member of a fraternal order vowing to be wretched and cruel...
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Goober5000 on October 15, 2003, 08:06:19 am
...

Well, that's interesting.  Putting all that emphasis on the name practically gives it away. ;)

However, I too disagree with the whole wretched and cruel bit...
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 15, 2003, 08:09:04 am
The theory is, the more analytical a person is, the longer they take to get the secret - or, they never get it at all, even with all the emphasis on the name. :)
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: karajorma on October 15, 2003, 09:15:39 am
I think I've got it. If I have, I got it on the second throw which is probably insufferably quick :)
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 15, 2003, 09:20:41 am
Indeed. Now your forum title gets a second meaning. :p
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Levyathan on October 15, 2003, 11:41:21 am
Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
I don't want to be a member of a fraternal order vowing to be wretched and cruel...

I'm more concerned about the name of the fraternity... :p
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Nico on October 15, 2003, 12:13:27 pm
Gahh, I though I ahd found, got 4 good answers in a row, then it wouldn't work anymore, :p

edit: scratch that, I've found the trick.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Devils_Hitman on October 15, 2003, 01:05:35 pm
anyone who wants the answer its.

(highlight to read)

the only dice u need to worry about is the 3 and the 5 dice, all other die's are irrelevent.

3 gives a value of 2. (because the center dot is surrounded by 2 dots, making the answer 2)

5 gives an answer of 4 ( coz u look at the center dot, there are 4 arround it, answer 4)

so if u roll for example. |1| |2| |3| |4| |5| |6| the answer is 6 because. there is one 3 and one 5. because 5 gives a score of 4 and 3 gives a score of 2,

2+4 =6.

So remeber 3 = 2. and 5 = 4.  the other die aint mean anything. if u aint got no 3's or 5's, the answer is zero.


there ya go.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Nico on October 15, 2003, 01:08:07 pm
or how to spoil the fun :rolleyes:
it hasn't occured to you that given away the trick will make the thing completly uninteresting?
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: aldo_14 on October 15, 2003, 03:40:32 pm
It' F-ing dull as is.  Bloody dice.  Honestly.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Galemp on October 15, 2003, 06:01:51 pm
Hitman: but do you know WHY it works that way?
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 15, 2003, 06:46:39 pm
Hitman, you're no fun. :p
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Galemp on October 15, 2003, 06:55:36 pm
Edit his post. You know you want to. Give in to your hatred... it is unavoidable, it is your destiny...
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 15, 2003, 06:57:17 pm
I'll let him give into his own guilt. ;)
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Hippo on October 15, 2003, 06:59:57 pm
won't happen... just edit it...
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 15, 2003, 07:04:34 pm
Nah, won't. It's his responsibility. At least he put it in black, anyway.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Fineus on October 15, 2003, 07:05:42 pm
I was going to say - it's not like it's obvious unless you go looking for it by highlighting what he wrote. Let it go :)
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Styxx on October 15, 2003, 07:18:46 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
Nah, won't. It's his responsibility. At least he put it in black, anyway.


I think what you wanted to say was: "At least Styxx put it in black, anyway". ;)
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Ace on October 15, 2003, 09:16:29 pm
Well it is rediculously obvious to figure out, actually:
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*AROUND* the rose. The only numbers on a D6 with a center are 1, 3, and 5. How many petals are around the rose in a roll?
----
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: demon442 on October 15, 2003, 10:20:40 pm
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Originally posted by Levyathan
I'm more concerned about the name of the fraternity... :p



Likewise, why would I want to be a part of a fraternity with a thing for flowers?
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Devils_Hitman on October 16, 2003, 01:07:31 am
Quote
Originally posted by Venom
or how to spoil the fun :rolleyes:
it hasn't occured to you that given away the trick will make the thing completly uninteresting?


If someone gave away the origins of the shivans....would that make them less interesting?.

lol, na anyways, who cares about some fraternaty, im just being helpfull.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 16, 2003, 06:05:41 am
Quote
Originally posted by Styxx


I think what you wanted to say was: "At least Styxx put it in black, anyway". ;)


Aha. I knew it was too good to be true. :D
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Gloriano on October 16, 2003, 06:22:43 am
this is just awesome
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Nico on October 16, 2003, 06:41:36 am
Quote
Originally posted by Devils_Hitman


If someone gave away the origins of the shivans....would that make them less interesting?.


definitively.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: an0n on October 16, 2003, 09:00:18 am
I don't even get what the fuck I'm supposed to be doing. And that music is just making me more and more fucking likely to go hack the site and crash the servers.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Drew on October 16, 2003, 10:36:48 am
they must have some interesting parties....
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Krackers87 on October 16, 2003, 01:57:03 pm
haha i found it out but only with a little help. Oh well...

I took it too literaly and tried to count how many petals were on the rose :lol:
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: kode on October 16, 2003, 02:06:35 pm
gg.

it took me eigth tries, but I blame it on the fact that I got ridiculously drunk last night and has somewhat of a hangover today.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: pyro-manic on October 16, 2003, 02:21:31 pm
That was bloody hard. Took me about 50 goes to figure it out. I think I think about this kind of thing completely the wrong way. :nod:
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: kode on October 16, 2003, 05:00:03 pm
yeah, me too. too much maths, I guess.
Title: Petals Around The Rose
Post by: Setekh on October 17, 2003, 12:51:23 am
Have you read the story about Bill Gates? Darn, that messed up my last algorithm! You kick yourself when you find out, if you've been going at it for some time. ;)