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Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: karajorma on October 16, 2003, 05:50:23 am
According to FSURP the date for the discovery of subspace is 2313. Was that just a guess or is there any hard evidence of when subspace was first used?
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Setekh on October 16, 2003, 05:56:31 am
AFAIK, there is no canon account of the first use of subspace - but the date itself, I'm quite sure, is from V.
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: karajorma on October 16, 2003, 10:18:52 am
Any idea where V stated it? I'm in a discussion about this over on Spacebattles and it's always nice to back up your claims with solid fact :D
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Eishtmo on October 16, 2003, 07:09:00 pm
The Freespace Reference Bible.  I think it's still on the main FS1 site somewhere.
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Unknown Target on October 16, 2003, 07:24:06 pm
I think it was stated in the Tech rooms of one of the two games, under subspace ;)
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Stealth on October 16, 2003, 07:53:43 pm
wow.  i didn't know the tech room had "Subspace" listed
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Knight Templar on October 16, 2003, 08:02:48 pm
Cha-ching. (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/KT/FreeSpaceRefBible.doc)
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Stealth on October 16, 2003, 08:28:12 pm
wow.  he uploaded the entire reference bible.  dude, you should make a website p1mping it.
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Knight Templar on October 16, 2003, 08:50:16 pm
Err.. done. (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/datdb/files.shtml)

Although, ideally, someone would put it on the FSURP page..
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Setekh on October 17, 2003, 08:42:38 am
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Originally posted by karajorma
Any idea where V stated it? I'm in a discussion about this over on Spacebattles and it's always nice to back up your claims with solid fact :D



Oooh, FS stuff over at SB? This I gotta see, got a link? :)
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Shiva-jin Buu on October 17, 2003, 09:12:49 am
So the GTA had colonized 9 major systems in 8 mere years?! The T-V war started ion 2321, so...
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Flaser on October 17, 2003, 10:41:45 am
No....

Even during FS2 most of the colonies are just orbital stations or most likely spacestations in asteroid belts.

Only a handful of planets were ever colonised, and a couple of those were lost during the Great War.

By colonising systems all you should expect in the begining is an Arcadia to be towed into position.
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: an0n on October 17, 2003, 11:47:29 am
Do I smell a "Discovery of subspace" campaign?

That'd be way-cool. Something covering the first few inter-system test flights, first-contact with the Vasudans and the first skirmishes leading up to the TV-War.
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Woolie Wool on October 17, 2003, 12:19:09 pm
www.3dap.com/hosted/14_year_war
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Black Wolf on October 17, 2003, 12:30:33 pm
They begin with Subspace implemented AFAIK WW. An0ns onto something methinks as an addon campaign for the TVWP, or 158th Expositions. I'd also like to see a Development of Beams campaign - that could be fun, though your combat scenarios in both cases might be a little limited...
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Flaser on October 17, 2003, 01:33:33 pm
The project has a big suprise in its pocket...
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: karajorma on October 17, 2003, 01:39:03 pm
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Originally posted by Setekh



Oooh, FS stuff over at SB? This I gotta see, got a link? :)


Click me (http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1371073#post1371073)

Oddly enough it isn't actually the only FS2 question up on those boards (although the other is a technical query). FS2 gets mentioned fairly often over there. Especially on Best Game Ever threads :D

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Originally posted by Eishtmo
The Freespace Reference Bible.  I think it's still on the main FS1 site somewhere.


I've has a quick flick through and I can't see a definative date (in fact it's annoyingly vague).
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: an0n on October 17, 2003, 01:59:41 pm
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Originally posted by Flaser
The project has a big suprise in its pocket...
Awww, I thought it was just pleased to see me.
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Eishtmo on October 17, 2003, 07:18:40 pm
I have always taken the stance that the 'discovery of subspace' line in the bible relates to the discovery of intersystem subspace, and that intrasystem subspace had been around for upwards of fifty years before that.  It helps make GTA expansion more believable when they only have to hook a new drive to a few ships and ferry the rest to where they want to colonize.
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Kazan on October 17, 2003, 10:45:27 pm
i am fairely sure it says in the fs2 tech room that the intrasystem drive was discovered first
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: Setekh on October 18, 2003, 12:29:44 am
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Originally posted by karajorma


Click me (http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1371073#post1371073)

Oddly enough it isn't actually the only FS2 question up on those boards (although the other is a technical query). FS2 gets mentioned fairly often over there. Especially on Best Game Ever threads :D


:yes: Don't forget to pimp the SCP. ;)
Title: Discovery of Subspace
Post by: karajorma on October 18, 2003, 10:34:13 am
I do. Every chance I can get. :) BTW the Inferno boys might want to look at spacebattles. They've got quite a few fans over there :D