Hard Light Productions Forums

Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Odyssey on October 17, 2003, 05:19:45 pm

Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Odyssey on October 17, 2003, 05:19:45 pm
Nodewars is back to its old self. I know many of you had issues with a lot of the previous nodewar iterations, and most of that has been taken into account.
Zeronet came up with the idea, but we need more people.

Are you an avid storyteller, a writer, an artist in the literary genre?
We need YOU.

You can once again control nations, or you can be an individual. Have your own say. No Hammerli this, Hammerli that. The game will begin just after the V-T war ends.
There are Terrans, Vasudans, and the Nvari (pseudo-shivans). Zeronet's word is that the Nvari won't be all-out warring anyone, so don't get too uppity about that. Also, all battle outcomes will be moderator-decided: so don't be worried about getting flattened by anyone else either.

So, anyway, yeah. Take Nodewars, press the reset button, and you've got Nodewars - Back to Basics. Trust me, it's going to be one hell of a lot more fun.

Catch it here, under "Nodewar: Back to Basics":
http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/

You wouldn't want to be square now, would you?
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Zeronet on October 17, 2003, 05:33:40 pm
Its much more moderation based, which is good. Its good. :D
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: demon442 on October 17, 2003, 10:40:17 pm
I tried NodeWars 3 and wasn't happy with the experience.  Plus, even then, I wasnt much for writing 2 pages a day in useless dribble to further my own little plot.  Why should I have to put forth effort to play a game on a device designed to reduce the amount of effort one puts forth.   HotsnoJ had something better in the works but it fell apart before anyone could play.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Odyssey on October 18, 2003, 03:15:04 am
If you don't like writing, naturally you won't like Nodewars. Nodewars is writing. You can't knock it for that...
And really, is a computer designed to reduce effort? Not as much as a calculator. A computer does one hell of a lot of stuff, of which doing complicated calculations is only one. I don't mean to be insultful or anything, but if you only try things that require no effort on your part, you're going to miss one hell of a lot in the world.

Oh, and the more people we get, the less effort each person will need to put in to keep the ball rolling ^_^
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Kamikaze on October 18, 2003, 03:38:53 am
Actually NW wasn't really designed to reduce effort, it was often bogged up in lots of crap. The latest one actually was (NW4), with the removal of a bunch of stuff we didn't like. Though it flopped 'cause the players didn't like player based stories...

I'm thinking of (very tentatively) making an NW spin-off (or NW5) that'll be semi-automated, to make it purely story and idea for the player.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Setekh on October 18, 2003, 05:27:12 am
Personally, I really enjoyed NW when it was hosted here, then... something happened... :nervous:

Don't forget, you can post community news about this yourselves. :yes:
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Stunaep on October 19, 2003, 02:33:56 pm
join this. I did
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: kasperl on October 19, 2003, 02:55:01 pm
well, i would, but i am waay to busy.

NW is fun though! i participated in NW4 before it blew, and i enjoyed it a lot.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Odyssey on October 19, 2003, 03:14:45 pm
Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
NW is fun though! i participated in NW4 before it blew, and i enjoyed it a lot.

Well said, sir!
Now, if anyone else wants to follow Stunaep's shining example of chivalry, then we're still wanting of people - don't be shy, we're friendly... no, really...
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: kasperl on October 19, 2003, 03:18:28 pm
even if it is on an0n server, it doesn't mean that you'll die from joining, you'll only die if you really, really piss an0n off.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Shrike on October 19, 2003, 03:19:47 pm
As a note on the kinds of writing that you might do, for LOE (another similar story) I wrote on the order of 250 pages in the last 13 months.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: kasperl on October 19, 2003, 03:21:39 pm
if you do however have a life, i did about a page per week, or half a page when i had too moch homework.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Odyssey on October 19, 2003, 03:27:28 pm
And a page really isn't too much when it's something you want to write about. Unlike dumb English exams where you get no choice. This is fun writing ^_^
And you could also, if you're lucky/manipulative enough, substitute it instead of English coursework! :p ...Well, maybe not...

Bottom line: you don't have to write a huge amount, and the more people we get, the less you have to write to further the overall storyline.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Odyssey on October 20, 2003, 11:10:52 am
I sincerely apologise for having to bump this, but c'mon guys, surely more people like writing enough to at least visit the forum and get more info...
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: an0n on October 20, 2003, 11:31:38 am
Jesus, I'm not surprised no-one cares, you guys are pessimistic as hell.

You're just sat there defending against the 'faults' of the game. Yes, you have to write stories; It's a story-based game. Yes, it takes up some time; As does modding and/or playing FS. No, I do not **** with people's stuff (be it files on the server or their profile) unless they're abusing people or the forum/game rules; Ask KT or Thor or DragonClaw or anyone.

Now, let's look at the positive:

So go join up and.....err.....Y'know.......

Oh and I'm adding a Random Stories forum so you can post non-NW stories and get critique'd by our administrative staff of apes and upper-echelon monkeys.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Ace on October 20, 2003, 11:50:00 am
Pretty much it's time for my post :-)

The V-T war aims for a different game then Zeronet's "Back to the Basics."

The V-T war focuses on epic battles and combat, and the player's shaping the future.

The war does have large factions, but players compete and betray one another for resources in them as well as to be on top.

Pretty much the focus is to avoid crap story posts, as everything is directed towards the main game. (Player versus player combat)

Despite all of the combat, it is actually based on the story writing as opposed to a complex ruleset, like what Kamikazie mentioned in his idea.

Think of the big classic space opera stories like the Lensman series and you'll see what I mean.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Odyssey on October 20, 2003, 12:10:08 pm
Hey, stop hijacking my pimpage thread :p
Well, anyway, yeah. The V-T war and BTB are two very different Nodewars, and each has its merits. Neither are particularly story-based beyond background, so it's pretty much up to you what happens - less arguments that way, mm?
Choose your poison.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Gloriano on October 20, 2003, 12:11:54 pm
in simple



[SIZE=40]NODEWAR NEEDS MORE BLOOD!!!!!![/SIZE]
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Odyssey on October 20, 2003, 12:14:32 pm
Eloquently said. Would you care to join up? :p
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: HotSnoJ on October 20, 2003, 12:15:40 pm
Quote
Originally posted by demon442
I tried NodeWars 3 and wasn't happy with the experience.  Plus, even then, I wasnt much for writing 2 pages a day in useless dribble to further my own little plot.  Why should I have to put forth effort to play a game on a device designed to reduce the amount of effort one puts forth.   HotsnoJ had something better in the works but it fell apart before anyone could play.
:wtf: Umm...are you refering to my 3D node map? It wasn't a game it was an attemp at making a 3D node map that you could zoom in and out, rotate around, and all that. It was put on hold because some features I needed aren't/weren't supported by the Blender game engine.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Gloriano on October 20, 2003, 12:16:42 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Odyssey
Eloquently said. Would you care to join up? :p


i am there all ready;7 ;) :)
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: an0n on October 20, 2003, 12:16:51 pm
He means that WorldWar thing.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: HotSnoJ on October 20, 2003, 12:19:53 pm
Quote
Originally posted by an0n
He means that WorldWar thing.
Ahh. Actually it wasn't my idea. It was Shivan Swarm's creator, can't remember his name now. I was just hosting it.
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Odyssey on October 20, 2003, 12:24:51 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
i am there all ready;7 ;) :)

Not in BTB you're not. Shift yo' ass :p (just kidding... I think)
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: neo_hermes on October 20, 2003, 12:30:55 pm
I'll join If yall want :D i'll head over there now :)
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Stunaep on October 20, 2003, 12:37:45 pm
Join BTB, yes!
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 20, 2003, 02:30:57 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
As a note on the kinds of writing that you might do, for LOE (another similar story) I wrote on the order of 250 pages in the last 13 months.


I wonder if it could publishing grade stuff :p
Title: Nodewars: Back to Basics
Post by: Zeronet on October 20, 2003, 07:47:39 pm
I wonder if my english coursework is...