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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: NeoHunter on October 17, 2003, 08:16:51 pm
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Anybody here has Halo for the PC? I'm having trouble with the damn Flood. There is one part where I am following this stupid floating blue sphere called the Monitor and he goes off the unlock the door, so I wait. THen the Flood comes out from two directions and the door behind me closes. I'm like trapped in a small room with tons and tons of Flood coming at me. I only have a shotgun and the assault rifle.
Did any on of you guys here complete the PC version yet?
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
Anybody here has Halo for the PC? I'm having trouble with the damn Flood. There is one part where I am following this stupid floating blue sphere called the Monitor and he goes off the unlock the door, so I wait. THen the Flood comes out from two directions and the door behind me closes. I'm like trapped in a small room with tons and tons of Flood coming at me. I only have a shotgun and the assault rifle.
Did any on of you guys here complete the PC version yet?
Pull! Bang!... you have ammo, use them... shotgun being the best, and trade the assault rifle for a Plasma rifle too..
and that blue sphere is 347 Guilty spark..
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Easier said than done, Turnsky. The big guys I acn handle. Its the small ones that are hard to kill. There's too many of them and I have only about 50 plus shotgun ammo. Can't possibliy last that long, right?
Covenent weapons are cool as in that they are more damaging than the standard assault rifle (and more accurate too) but you cannot recharge it and it overheats too easily.
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I'm downloading the demo now. ;)
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
Easier said than done, Turnsky. The big guys I acn handle. Its the small ones that are hard to kill. There's too many of them and I have only about 50 plus shotgun ammo. Can't possibliy last that long, right?
Covenent weapons are cool as in that they are more damaging than the standard assault rifle (and more accurate too) but you cannot recharge it and it overheats too easily.
okay.. small flood, you can get away with letting a few get to you, assault rifle pops them like nothing else, when you get a carrier, (big pulsating thing) shoot at that when it gets amongst a group... *BOOM*..;)
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Originally posted by Setekh
I'm downloading the demo now. ;)
Ha! Good luck... I hope it runs on your box... :p
the HW2 demo won't on mine... Something abou a 733Mhz processsor or better...
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I sincerely hope that you are playing on something higher than easy...
On the XBOX, that one room is easy. Lots of them, small space, shotgun. It gets much harder later on in that level, and then wait until the last level...
PS: I did that entire level on one load of shotty shells, so dont complain.
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50 May not sound like much but half the flood you kill carry the stuff. It lasts.
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Is it? The big walking ones are easy to kill with one shotgun blast at close range. The small ones are all over the place. On the floor, on the cellings, on the walls...sometimes, I get fed up and just lob a grenade in any direction.:)
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WAIT! I got past this part rather easily (well after a few tries i got past it rather easily)
the way i did it was to stock up on ammo and run the blast doors that close up on you. There is a smal "alcove" on either side of the door.
if you camp in there it forces the flood to come at you in smaller numbers cuz they only have 1 way to get to you.
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Ha! Good luck... I hope it runs on your box... :p
the HW2 demo won't on mine... Something abou a 733Mhz processsor or better...
Hey, you're talking to the guy who got the FS2 demo running on a Pentium-233MMX with a 4MB S3 card. 3D acceleration required? Yeah, right! :p
Anyway, if it doesn't work, I'll just burn the install file and take it to my friend's house... his computer is substantially better than mine. :D
So, how low can I turn these detail settings?
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In halo you can turn most of the affects down or off.
If you want to get good performance turn down most of the stuff.
unfortunatly
Halo's pixle shaders use alot of rescouces... ud need a ****load of Vram and Ram to handle them all
i just turn them off. HALO looks but ugly but i get a clean +30 FPS in multiplayer.
for single player i use the old 1.1 shaders and that helps cuz there is less action..
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Guess what? I finally got through that damn room. Real stupid actually. I just retreated into one of those small holes in the opposite wall facing the two holes where the Flood would come out from. Funny thing is, the Flood didn't come out at all. Well, maybe a few of those small Flood things but I popped them with my assauly rifle. After waiting awhile, the blast doors opened and I dashed through. That was when the Flood came out from those two holes. Apparently, the game is programmed to release the Flood if you are a certain distance from the holes. If more than that, the game will never release them. Bug there.
Currently at the stage when I have to disable the second generator. Now its like a free-for-all. Covenent fighting Flood fighting me. Loads of fun for everyone.
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The little ones are easy to kill. Just wait until they are close together and fire off a shotgun round.
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its not a bug, the flood wont spaw if you are in view of their spawn points. it was programmed that way
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don't even bother with the infections if you are on easy or normal... keep your attention on the combat forms, shoot the carriers as soon as you see them, and DON'T use plasma greneades! they could get stuck to a jumping combat form and blow you up too... keep the shogun an AR is you are on easy or normal, but anything higher, ditch the AR... even a human pistol is beter because 2 shots anywhere on any form of flood WILL kill them, whereas the AR takes up to half a clip... back up while fighting thm, keeping them spread thin, and toggle between your weaopns... if you shoot a carrier directly in front of you, run backwards and jump at the same time to gain the best distance from them... reload as often as possible, especially the shotgun... some of the human combat forms will have a rocket launcher... kill them quickly, but leave the launcher behind, as its no use to you... when you reach one of the 10 sets of security doors, watch the hole up top as it first opens, as sometimes (especially at the end) combat forms will sail through them... Skeet shooting anyone? :p each time you get off an elevator, be ware that there are going to be dozens of carriers dropping down around you endlessly... on a lot of points, the flood will respawn endlessly keeping you pinned down, unless you keep traveling past the spawn point... if your shields drop, run... a single infection can take you down without your shield... make sure you don't get surrounded, and be aware that the longer it takes you to move through the level, the greater the chances that you'll run out of ammo, die, or encounter much worse odds in the ending of the level, which is hell by itself...
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*prays to the computer game god for the release of Halo tools*
"Wacky Races" Warthog style anyone ?
an easy way to kill bad guys (X-Box version) is to shoot them a couple of times and whack 'em with the butt of your gun.
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Originally posted by magatsu1
an easy way to kill bad guys (X-Box version) is to shoot them a couple of times and whack 'em with the butt of your gun.
the easiest way is to peg them in that special spot in the head with the pistol :D
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taking out four or five by skidding a warthog into a group of 'em is good for a laugh.
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If you have an ATI card, the DX9 effects present are no problem at all. If you have an FX card (with the 5900 as a possible exception), be prepared to turn the effects off.
I've got my 9700Pro, Athlon 2700+, and 512mb PC2700 RAM running this thing with top everything and its pristine gameplay. I know my rig is good, but the video card is very dependant in this case.
For all the naysayers, its an issue with DX9 performance on nVidia cards. The new drivers are supposed to help...but they aren't out yet.
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the pc version can be identical to the xbox version if you buy an xbox controller and an xbox2usb adaptor... be advised: if you do, it calls reloading, picking up weapons, and the action button by three names, but if you bind X to the 'action' button, it does all 3, but if you bind it to the others, like reload, thats ALL it will do... the ONLY flaw is that Hpc doesn't support the xbox controller vibration, though it is detected by the computer...
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Don't even bother shooting at the infection forms if you have your shields as they barely even touch them, avoid them at all costs if your sans shields however because they stick to you and drain health at a stupidly fast rate.
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Originally posted by IceFire
but the video card is very dependant in this case.
icefire is right, if you want to enjoy HALO's superb vis effects you will need a good gfx card.
fortunatly, HALO dosnt hog regular ram :D
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I really dont see whats so hard about this level. Of course, this coming from the person that beat the truth and reconcilliation on that one load of sniper shells and pistol rounds...
Wait until you get to the last level this will be absolutly nothing compared to that final battle.
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The final battle wasn't that hard. Personally, I thought the Library was the hardest level.
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Originally posted by Hippo
the pc version can be identical to the xbox version if you buy an xbox controller and an xbox2usb adaptor... be advised: if you do, it calls reloading, picking up weapons, and the action button by three names, but if you bind X to the 'action' button, it does all 3, but if you bind it to the others, like reload, thats ALL it will do... the ONLY flaw is that Hpc doesn't support the xbox controller vibration, though it is detected by the computer...
Almost the main reason why I'd go for Halo PC rather than Halo Xbox is so that I can use a mouse... :nervous:
Anyway, I got the demo, and it runs at 10fps with all the details off. :p Methinks I'll be upgrading soon though, it's damn fun to play in all its chunkiness. :D
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the vibration is just annoying anyway.
oh, and thanks to the P.O.S smackhead who broke into my bro's gaff last night and nicked his X-Box (no joke)
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Originally posted by redsniper
The final battle wasn't that hard. Personally, I thought the Library was the hardest level.
We're talking about the library... On anthing other then easy, you are guarenteed to die several times before you get it right... A friend and I did it on 2 player, on ledgendary, and it took us half an hour JUST at the end...
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I know you're talking about the library. Someone was saying that the last battle* was harder than the library but I disagreed.
* Spoiler:I'm assuming he meant the fight in Pillar of Autumn's engine room.
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I think he was referring to the library... although The Maw is prety hard on ledgendary... My friend and i did that yesterday, and he was driving, and i accidentally shot a carrier in front of us, and nearly killed us both... neither of us died more then once in during it though...
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that driving part at the end was one of my favorite parts of the whole game. It reminded me of Metal Gear Solid, except this time I was driving instead of shooting, plus I was alone.
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yeah, 2player is interesting, since you can race, or gun, and you can get interesting views, especially if you sit in the side seat...
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Originally posted by magatsu1
oh, and thanks to the P.O.S smackhead who broke into my bro's gaff last night and nicked his X-Box
(http://www.cnbc.cmu.edu/~noelle/person/gaff.gif)
"Being broken into... it is something I do not enjoy."
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word for the wise... while the sniper rifle is fun, it's pratically useless against the flood;)
best weapon combo, Shotgun + Rocketlauncher....:drevil:
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Shotgun and pistol.
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the RL is ok during Keyes, with those hunters and carriers bumbling around, but the shotgun and assault rifle/pistol are most effective... with the flood, one has a tendancy to go full auto with the assault rifle, its exremly innacurate, and it'll run you out of ammo... fire like the marines, a few quick shots on target, then release the trigger while swiching targets...
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Originally posted by Setekh
Anyway, I got the demo, and it runs at 10fps with all the details off.
Tip: add -useff in the command line. thatl turn off all pixle shaders of any kind.
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Originally posted by Hippo
the RL is ok during Keyes, with those hunters and carriers bumbling around, but the shotgun and assault rifle/pistol are most effective... with the flood, one has a tendancy to go full auto with the assault rifle, its exremly innacurate, and it'll run you out of ammo... fire like the marines, a few quick shots on target, then release the trigger while swiching targets...
in the Maw, the RL is invaluable in the later half, the splash damage does a helluva lot of damage to flood, and sends them flying...
for fun, blow both a Flood's arms off, and let it walk to you... it can't attack y'see..;)
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well yeah, the maw it defineately is, except that the sentenels can draw your aim while shooting the shafts... in keyes, at the beginning, there are armless flood... they take a beating when you try and hit them with your gun...
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Assault rifle and plasma rifle is my preferred combination. I use the plasma rifle on the Covenant and the assault rifle on the Flood and if no enemies drop any plasma rifles I use a plasma pistol instead. btw, does the Flood remind anyone of headcrabs from Half-Life.
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i played Halo in pc and:ick because that mp is not good
so halo in xbox is better
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I just got the demo today and was presently suprised to see that it could run on my computer (albeit at ****ty 1024 768). Only thing I noticed different is that shooting seems a lot different in single player with low res, the warthog has worse control than before with a mouse, and my Geforce2 makes me want to cry.
And what's wrong with multiplayer?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Ithe warthog has worse control than before with a mouse,
ugg, HALO's mouse issue rears its ugly head again...
one of the reasons you may be having bad control with the mouse is HALOS mouse acceleration... mouse acceleration can really kill mouse functionality and FPS on slower PCs
for so stupid reason, bungie didnt give you the option to turn it off...
go to bungie.net and look for the link "The maw" its a tech support forum; look for the tweakadge guide there.
or you could to a google search ;)
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
****ty 1024 768
slaps the resolution whore
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Originally posted by Drew
Tip: add -useff in the command line. thatl turn off all pixle shaders of any kind.
Ta, I'll give that a go tomorrow. :)
*echoes ZB*
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And what's wrong with multiplayer?
it's just too normal
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:wtf:
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*cough banshee cough*
not so normal
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but there is almost always lag in multi, even for someone with a decent connection... that and the ground (blood gulch especially) is all one texture and its little tiny ever-repeating tiles... Banshee and the new maps are the only good things to come to multi, excep the Fuel rod... ;7
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
Now its like a free-for-all. Covenent fighting Flood fighting me. Loads of fun for everyone.
You're making me want to play Serious Sam again. :p
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For single and multi-player, you can't beat the pistol/shotgun combo, unless you want to do something more specific (blow up a wraith/ghost/banshee with a rocket launcher, sniper someone from the other side of the level etc.) I find it's the best all rounder.
I'd like to get into Halo PC multiplayer, the game doesn't seem to really like my computer much for some reason though. Guess I'll just have to stick with the 'box then.
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I just wish Halo would allow specular and Reflections in my menu, I know the GeForce 4 MX is up to it, cos it does just fine in things like Black and White and Unreal Tourney 2k3 :(
Flipside :D
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Originally posted by Hippo
but there is almost always lag in multi, even for someone with a decent connection... that and the ground (blood gulch especially) is all one texture and its little tiny ever-repeating tiles... Banshee and the new maps are the only good things to come to multi, excep the Fuel rod... ;7
You mean, the texturing isn't just my vid card? :nervous: :wtf:
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I've never played the XBOX version (blasphemy! :rolleyes: ), but I did enjoy the demo a lot.
In the demo I was using the energy rifle much more than the automatic rifle, as it seems like the latter is only effective at close ranges.
Even after all this time though, I find that the look of the game is still breathtaking... even when it's chugging along slowly on my computer... heh
Cheers!
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In the demo I was using the energy rifle much more than the automatic rifle, as it seems like the latter is only effective at close ranges.
yes and no, both the assault rifle, and the plasma rifle have thier own pros and cons, i just stick with the assault rifle because of the 60 round clip, abundance of ammo, and the fact that it doesn't overheat..
Even after all this time though, I find that the look of the game is still breathtaking... even when it's chugging along slowly on my computer... heh
Cheers! [/B]
does the same on mine, but that's a memory issue for me..;)
once you get the full game people, keep an eye out for the scorpion tank... 'tis fun for punishing grunts..:drevil:
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the AR is best when used on shielded targets, like elites... ITs more accurate then the Plasma rifle, and can be reloaded, and doesn't overheat, but the Plasma Rifle is more effective against jackels than the AR since it burns out their shields...
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Originally posted by Hippo
the AR is best when used on shielded targets, like elites... ITs more accurate then the Plasma rifle, and can be reloaded, and doesn't overheat, but the Plasma Rifle is more effective against jackels than the AR since it burns out their shields...
Jackals cannot fight close-range all that well, and can succumb to a good smack upside the head with the butt of your rifle..;) :drevil:
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'cept on ledgendary, it take 3-4 whacks, and with more then 4, is potentially deadly... but grenades work too... :p
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Originally posted by Hippo
'cept on ledgendary, it take 3-4 whacks, and with more then 4, is potentially deadly... but grenades work too... :p
heh, yeah..
here's another one.. just for the humor factor alone, attaching a plasma grenade is rather funny... Try it, and see...
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Speaking of Halo, Here's a fun trick you should try:
Flying tank-
Make a mulitplayer mode with grenades turned on. Get a partner and run them over with the tank. Wait for them to respawn, then keep running them over in the same spot until you have a pile of plasma grenades. Drive the tank over the grenades, back far away, and shoot the grenades with an rocket. The tank will fly a good 50 feet in the air! :lol: Pretty funny to see:yes:
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'cept for your enraged ally that is ;)
Flipside :D
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in CTF, try running around whacking ppl from the opposing team with the flag ;7
its funny as hell ;7
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Originally posted by SKYNET-011
Speaking of Halo, Here's a fun trick you should try:
Flying tank-
Make a mulitplayer mode with grenades turned on. Get a partner and run them over with the tank. Wait for them to respawn, then keep running them over in the same spot until you have a pile of plasma grenades. Drive the tank over the grenades, back far away, and shoot the grenades with an rocket. The tank will fly a good 50 feet in the air! :lol: Pretty funny to see:yes:
Its only works in co-op... Multiplayer has no secondary explosions...
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Originally posted by Turnsky
here's another one.. just for the humor factor alone, attaching a plasma grenade is rather funny... Try it, and see...
:lol: Damn it's funny when you do that. They're kind of like, "huh? what?" Then boom :D
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Originally posted by Setekh
:lol: Damn it's funny when you do that. They're kind of like, "huh? what?" Then boom :D
attach a plasma grenade to a grunt....
Get it off!... GET IT OFF!!
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Originally posted by IceFire
If you have an ATI card, the DX9 effects present are no problem at all. If you have an FX card (with the 5900 as a possible exception), be prepared to turn the effects off.
For all the naysayers, its an issue with DX9 performance on nVidia cards. The new drivers are supposed to help...but they aren't out yet.
*(&% Kinda wish they'd mention this sort of thing in the reviews......
Originally posted by ZylonBane
slaps the resolution whore
:nod: (but only cos I've got a **** monitor that sturggles above 1024*768)
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I think in the entire Covenent army, the two most irritating enemies are the Jackal and the two Elite versions. The opne carrying the Plasma Rifle and the other that carries the laser blade.
Jackals hide behind the shield and fire. Sometimes, if you are not careful, you may be hit by the overcharged blast from their Plasma Pistol and your shields go to zero and warning alarms start buzzing from your speakers. Then I have to retreat back to the last corner and wait for my shields to come back up.
The Elites are equipped with shields as well. So, they take a longer time to kill and they are very agile and like to roll a lot so that you cannot hit them. There are also the cloaked versions with energy blades that can kill you in one swipe.
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and the Commander Elites (the gold ones) can outrun you when they have a plasma sword... irritating when running backwards for your life...
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but they have weak sheilds.
pop em in the "sweet spot" with the pistol; thatl end their day real quick :D
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the gold clad ones have even stronger shields... You can empty an assault rifle into them running backwards, and they won't die... Pistol works quickly, but if you rarely have the time to accrately aim for thair head while backing away quickly...
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Just for the record, is anyone else having specularity and reflection problems with a GeForce 4 MX? I've got the latest everything and it still won't highlight these damn options! :(
Flipside :D
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my friend runs HPc on a G4, but he can partially see through the walls in campaign mode... And the ground and walls in Multi... Cindof interesting since you can see the enemy coming around the corners... This is with the ighest detail too... Maybe GF4 doesn't like T&L...
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Hmmmmmmmm.... mines ok with walls but gets flickery with the lighting in campaign mode. It won't even consider giving me the option for Specular and Shininess, maybe because I installed it Before DirectX9b, I can't find a config file, so I suspect it's out and re-install time..... after I've completed the campaign anyway ;)
Flipside :D
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Originally posted by Flipside
Just for the record, is anyone else having specularity and reflection problems with a GeForce 4 MX? I've got the latest everything and it still won't highlight these damn options! :(
Flipside :D
My GF4 MX420 is so poor it doesn't even render explosions. I only know when it's detonated when I see the Grunts flying off in all sorts of directions. :p
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Originally posted by Hippo
the gold clad ones have even stronger shields... You can empty an assault rifle into them running backwards, and they won't die... Pistol works quickly, but if you rarely have the time to accrately aim for thair head while backing away quickly...
Plasma grenade anyone? They are the best thing to use to take out Elites.
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but... on ledgendary, its still not enough to guarentee a kill while they run at you... Granted, it will hurt them, but they do often survive a grenade stuck to their head... (this only is talking about the commander elites, others usually die)
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I hate the most are those cloaked Elites. You cannot see them until they start movinig. And they only start moving when they want to kill you up close.
I think shotgun should work fine against Elites. Best is the Plasma Rifle. Takes down their shield rather fast. A steady stream of plasma shots should prevent them from moving or rolling away from you. However, you have to watch out in case the rifle overheats and you cannot fire.
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Killing Elites: the easy way,
wait for him/it to take a swing at you, side step, then shove your shot-gun up his nose.
KA-BLAM!
not so elite now eh?!
ever tiried HALO on a black and white T.V. ?
you can see those cloaked fellows no problem !
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Originally posted by magatsu1
ever tiried HALO on a black and white T.V. ?
you can see those cloaked fellows no problem !
*points*
*laughs*
:lol:
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wasn't so much the telly as the scart connection. Had a similar problem when I first got a PSone.
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I downloaded the demo and WOAH it has Multi player too. So who wants to get owned? ;7 :drevil:
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Originally posted by Razor
So who wants to get owned? ;7 :drevil:
dude, shut up :rolleyes:
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You have been playing for what? 2 weeks? :rolleyes:
People who already had XBOX would own you.
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We would all own you. So, give it up. Hahaha...!
Actually, I think the most fun is trying to kill a Covenent Hunter. Play hide and seek with it.
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Actually, I think the most fun is trying to kill a Covenent Hunter. Play hide and seek with it. [/B][/quote]
:nod:
to kill elite just use pistol and grenades i all ways kill them using that i am playing it in Xbox
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Originally posted by Drew
dude, shut up :rolleyes:
You are strong on words..but I haven't seen you in action. And....do you really think I played Halo for just 2 weeks? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
:nod:
to kill elite just use pistol and grenades i all ways kill them using that i am playing it in Xbox [/B]
Yo...I said "Hunter" and not "Elite". You got everything mixed up.
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All Razor is asking is who wants a multiplayer game, that's all, if you think you can beat him then why not simply accept his challenge and find out? I would, but I don't have the demo :D
Flipside :D
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I will soon as I get hooked up.
On the subject, anyone care to recommend any good CS or Natural Selection servers ?
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Originally posted by Flipside
All Razor is asking is who wants a multiplayer game, that's all, if you think you can beat him then why not simply accept his challenge and find out? I would, but I don't have the demo :D
Flipside :D
Very diplomatic of you....hehehehe :p
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Originally posted by Razor
You are strong on words..but I haven't seen you in action. :rolleyes:
Ever seen any -SW- in action? ;7
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SW?
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its my clan :doubt:
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were's the demo
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there was a link in the Halo PC demo thread...
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I'm trying this
http://downloads.gameplanet.co.nz/dl.dyn/Download/3274.html
but it doesn't seem to be doing anyhting
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Fileplanet anyone?
At least they are semi-reliable. :nervous:
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Upon startup, I'm greeted with a "Cannot initialize DirectX, you may not have hardware acceleration turned on, yadda yadda..." message. I.E. I can't play the game.
And before someone slaps me with the "go get new drivers" and "patch it" responses, I've already done so. And since Bungie's support page is completely devoid of any tech help for the PC version outside of the most simplistic problems...
Anyone heard of something like this happening? Or have an idea on how to fix it?
EDIT: Okay, so I'm an ignorant sod for not looking hard enough. :p Problem's traced to Reforce. Disabled it and it's workin' like a charm.
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I got the demo from FP. Hang out for a time when their servers are empty... heh, living on the other side of the world does have some perks. ;)
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FilePlanet's pretty reliable. I downloaded many demos from them already. That's how I know which games are worth buying.
Back to Halo. I'm back on the Covenent cruiser after disabling the three generators. Once again, stupid Captain Heyes is captured and I have to rescue him again. Can anybody give me some tips for that stage?
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Originally posted by NeoHunter
FilePlanet's pretty reliable. I downloaded many demos from them already. That's how I know which games are worth buying.
Back to Halo. I'm back on the Covenent cruiser after disabling the three generators. Once again, stupid Captain Heyes is captured and I have to rescue him again. Can anybody give me some tips for that stage?
Let the flood and covenant fight it out and clear up any flood that remain, shotgun should still be the weapon of choice and (if you're playing on legendary) try to avoid conflict as much as possible when you're not on the ship.
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How about the reactors, what sequence do you suggest?
...and how the damn do I make sure the Flood is down, I pummell them with my rifle just to make sure they won't stab me in the back (persistent bastards...)....
Anyway the last part is quite hectic....especially since no checkpoint is given after blowing up one or two reactor.
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The assault rifle just makes them mad. so i either toss a plasma grenade on them or i shoot them with the shotgun/if i have a rocket launcher i shoot them with that too. (ah i love the rocket launcher)
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You need rockets to blow up the reactors, so you're stuck with a single weapon.
There are these floating sentries too...
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the sentries are easier to take out with either the Shotgun/Plasma pistol. i prefer the plasma pistol cause they're everywhere.
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Originally posted by Flaser
You need rockets to blow up the reactors, so you're stuck with a single weapon.
There are these floating sentries too...
You can use grenades on the reactors too but you need to time it better than the rockets. The last run on The Maw is one of my favouritest moments in gaming.
Also:
"I don't care if it's Gods own anti-sonofa***** machine or giant hula hoop"
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Dammit, the Halo gameplay is addictive. This may finally be the game that induces me to upgrade. ;)
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Originally posted by 01010
The last run on The Maw is one of my favouritest moments in gaming.
nahhh....
wasnt nearly as exciting as the final run of the last mission of Fs2 :D
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Legendary?
hmm...nasty
BTW finished it yesterday on normal.
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legendary is the only way to play Halo.
The other difficulties are way to easy.
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Originally posted by Drew
legendary is the only way to play Halo.
The other difficulties are way to easy.
Totally agree with you on that one, Legendary is the only way to truly see how impressive the AI is. I love it because each battle is totally unique and fantastic in its own way.
I remember one of the first few times I played "The Silent Cartographer" on legendary, I saw a lone grunt on the first beach hiding behind a crate and thought I'd circle around him, only to realise that the bastard had lured me into a trap whereupon two elites proceeded to smack me down. It took a good five minutes for my jaw to return to its normal position.
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the tank sequence, playing co-op, is pretty cool.
My bro would use the sniper rifle, and I'd use his screen (x-box split screen) to gauge the range of the tank's gun.
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Originally posted by 01010
I remember one of the first few times I played "The Silent Cartographer" on legendary, I saw a lone grunt on the first beach hiding behind a crate and thought I'd circle around him, only to realise that the bastard had lured me into a trap whereupon two elites proceeded to smack me down. It took a good five minutes for my jaw to return to its normal position.
Or maybe all that happened was that at high AI levels they're more likely to hide until you walk in front of their sights. Don't confuse an emergent situation for genius AI design.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Or maybe all that happened was that at high AI levels they're more likely to hide until you walk in front of their sights. Don't confuse an emergent situation for genius AI design.
That had crossed my mind but the way it all came together seemed more than a coincedence. I was circled around by one elite and he waited until he was behind me, taking me by suprise, at which point, the other guy jumped out from behind some crates and proceeded to kick my arse. I don't know, it's weird because it certainly felt like it was intended as opposed to an accident or coincedence.
Either way, the AI on Halo impresses me regardless of that incident. It's nice to fight an enemy that at least seems (even if it's just accidental) to respond to the different situations you give it.
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Originally posted by 01010
That had crossed my mind but the way it all came together seemed more than a coincedence. I was circled around by one elite and he waited until he was behind me, taking me by suprise, at which point, the other guy jumped out from behind some crates and proceeded to kick my arse. I don't know, it's weird because it certainly felt like it was intended as opposed to an accident or coincedence.
its not coincedince; the AI is programed to surround you and attack on your flanks. It quite an effective way of exterminating the chief if you ask me.
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It's like Homeworld 2, the AI has a lot of sneaky tricks programmed into it, including feints, lures and dummy assaults to draw your units off, it's pretty advanced! :)
Flipside :D
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I think those tricks only apply to the harder difficulties. I play on the normal setting and the computer is quite difficult.
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Honestly, the sole reason why the game is hard on legendary is those damned elites and their shields.
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jackels are harder then elites... the elites shield will eventually go down, but the jakal's won't...
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jackels are harder then elites... the elites shield will eventually go down, but the jakal's won't...
Jackels are piss easy to take down...
jackels shields do go down, shoot it with a plasma pistol/rifle and they soon loose it.
easy pickings.
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or just hit them over the head.. jackalls don't usually jump about carrying plasma rifles. And you hardly see them compared to Elites.
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Yeah, that's one thing that really bothered me about HALO, to the point of making me rethink getting it- so you've got this... fearsome arsenal at your disposal: assault rifles that make the modern ones look pathetic, giant plasma pistols spitting out wall-melting globs of gooey-looking death, ****ing tanks firing artillery rounds... and the most deadly thing you've got is your ability to ****ing pistol-whip people. Yeah, shield rationalization, blah blah, I see someone come out from under a hail of futuristic ultra-destructive gunfire that'd be improbable for most action movie stars with barely a scratch and then flop over dead when they get clocked with a ****ing rifle butt, I get angry.
I mean, why the **** don't they just make a gun that spits out pistol handles at 400 rounds a minute? And if whatever the hell they're making stocks out of in the future is so damned deadly, how can you hold onto a gun without, I dunno, tripping over a rock and scattering yourself over twelve counties?
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Er...now, how do you want us to answer you on this one?
Well, I guess if you hit a person with the butt of your rifle hard enough, you might actually kill the person with a skull fracture or something. Rifle butts are getting tougher. In my country, they changed the butt to be made of kevlar material. Sure. The rilfe is heavy but it sure as hell can whack a person's head without the butt cracking.
So, I got to say that a rifle butt can be that tough and you can actually kill a person with a butt stroke to the head.
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Yeah, and you can kill someone with your goddamn cock if you really put some effort into it. Doesn't make it the sort of lethal weapon they sic the Marines on you for having. Well, except that once. Definitely doesn't make it much more dangerous in any reasonable situation than, say, the hot metal spitting out of the other end of the gun.
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Kill someone with your cock..now that's something you don't see everyday...
Well, look at it this way. Its just a game.:D
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Well, sometimes you just gotta make someone die, and ain't got much else for tools around, y'know? A little ingenuity, all it takes.
Plus I was reading Transmet about an hour ago.
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Just bought it... on xbox :p
playing coop is fun, and that's the first time I have no problem with the pad... Was cheap, too.
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How the hell do you play Halo with a joypad?!
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..... with your thumbs.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
..... with your thumbs.
Of course with your thumbs! What I meant was aimign and stuff. Accurate meh?
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You do that with your right thumb.
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It's not that hard.
/me is the ultimate pistol sniper in xbox Halo.
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Tried Halo for XBox last time. Had a lot of difficulty nailing a Grunt.
Guess needs some getting use to.
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well yeah, but you know, I'm number one when it comes to spitting on console FPS. couldn't do crap with half life or anything. But dunno, with hallo, I just got the grip in what, 10 seconds.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Well, sometimes you just gotta make someone die, and ain't got much else for tools around, y'know? A little ingenuity, all it takes.
Plus I was reading Transmet about an hour ago.
Spider Jerusalem is quite possibly one of my favourite comic book characters along with Jesse Custer from Preacher.
As for the whole rifle butt smacking thing, if you hit someone from behind it's like a stealth kill, if you hit someone from the front on legendary they take a good three or four hits to go down and an elite will kill you before you have chance to knock it out. The reason the hit from the gun is so strong is to do with a combination of the Master Chiefs pure strength and the powered armour he's wearing.
Unfortunately you don't know that unless you've read the books.
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sheesh you people... don't you listen to me? jackals sheilds can take anything on ledgendary... it takes 3 charges plasma bursts, or a hell of a lot of full auto plasma rifle to bring it down... and on ledg, even a meele won't kill thm, unless it hits them from behind...
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Originally posted by Hippo
sheesh you people... don't you listen to me? jackals sheilds can take anything on ledgendary... it takes 3 charges plasma bursts, or a hell of a lot of full auto plasma rifle to bring it down... and on ledg, even a meele won't kill thm, unless it hits them from behind...
Or just a single pistol round to the head.
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Originally posted by 01010
Or just a single pistol round to the head.
I seldom use the pistol. I throw it away in favor of either the plasma pistol of the plasma rifle.
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Originally posted by Nico
I'm number one when it comes to spitting on console FPS. couldn't do crap with half life or anything
Since when did Half-Life become a console FPS?
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The pistol has its values - in open space combat I favor it over plasma weapons - I snipe, then when I run out of ammo, I ditch if for a plasma pistol.
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Bah, human weapons rule, I don't use this alien crap. :D
Now, really, I keep my Assault Rifle and Shotgun (AR and Pistol earlier in the game) for as long as I have ammo. Then I use them as clubs for a while. Then I consider picking up a plasma weapon.
And there's a version of Half Life for the X-Box, I think. Saw an advert for X-Box Counterstrike a while ago.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Since when did Half-Life become a console FPS?
It's on PS2, a friend bought it, I tried it, I hated it ( if only for the fact you can't invert the mouse look). Nouhg said.
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Originally posted by Nico
It's on PS2, a friend bought it, I tried it, I hated it ( if only for the fact you can't invert the mouse look). Nouhg said.
Okay, but you do realize that Half-Life isn't a "console FPS" though, right? It's a PC FPS, ported to a console.
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the pc version will still be better then the console version of HL...
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Okay, but you do realize that Half-Life isn't a "console FPS" though, right? It's a PC FPS, ported to a console.
Your point being? I know that, I've completed the original before it was even out :p
I just say that I hate FPS on consoles ( I'll stress that, so you won't annoy me with term choices :rolleyes: ) because of the pad but, for some reason, I have no problem handling Halo at all.
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Originally posted by Nico
Your point being? I know that, I've completed the original before it was even out :p
I just say that I hate FPS on consoles ( I'll stress that, so you won't annoy me with term choices :rolleyes: ) because of the pad but, for some reason, I have no problem handling Halo at all.
Halo is the only console FPS with controls as good as they are. The auto targetting is so subtle that you hardly even notice it.
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***spoil***
Oh, I've played through quite a bit... So, Halo is also a victim of the "3rd species that comes and kicks the two previous antagonists asses." Ok, those floods are rather funny, with their squid look and their funky moves, but they are severe reap offs of... well, countless stuff :p. I sure hope the covenants and the humans won't team up against them ( by the look of the Halo2 trailer, I'm not worried, tho ). I'm a bit disapointed with the reason for the ring, I expected something more "mystical", to be honest. It's just your average super weapon...
***end of spoiler***
Bah, I still like the game, the seting is cool, the small, common covenant troopers are funny as hell, some trooper speaches are really funny. At some point, a dude said "hey, this guy looks like your sister", my friend and I were so much into the action, we were caught by surprise, we had to stop playing for a minute to wait for the laughers to stop :p
The weapon gestion ( two at a time ) is a bit frustrating, but I like it, more realistic that way, the vehicle handling isn't the best sadly ( renegade hit the spot on this particular point ). Some weapons are... strange ( I never use the pistol in solo, but in multi, it's almost my weapon of choice, odd. On the opposite, the needler gun can be useful in solo - altho I never use it anymore, to be honest, I prefer the plasma weapons-, but completly useless in multi, the homing thing makes it too easy to avoid, in a paradoxal way. Grenades are cool, I've never used them so much in a FPS before :p
My only real gripe with that game is repetition of the same rooms and corridors, dozens of times. I thought that would be mostly outdoor action, how mistaken I was. The little part in the jungle deserved to be much longer, and that corridor crap much shorter. I hope there will be other jungle levels.
On a last note, the mecha design in halo rules, our powersuit, the dropship, the warthog, even those ring defense drones, they all look great.
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Originally posted by Nico
***spoil***
Oh, I've played through quite a bit... So, Halo is also a victim of the "3rd species that comes and kicks the two previous antagonists asses." Ok, those floods are rather funny, with their squid look and their funky moves, but they are severe reap offs of... well, countless stuff :p. I sure hope the covenants and the humans won't team up against them ( by the look of the Halo2 trailer, I'm not worried, tho ). I'm a bit disapointed with the reason for the ring, I expected something more "mystical", to be honest. It's just your average super weapon...
***end of spoiler***
Bah, I still like the game, the seting is cool, the small, common covenant troopers are funny as hell, some trooper speaches are really funny. At some point, a dude said "hey, this guy looks like your sister", my friend and I were so much into the action, we were caught by surprise, we had to stop playing for a minute to wait for the laughers to stop :p
The weapon gestion ( two at a time ) is a bit frustrating, but I like it, more realistic that way, the vehicle handling isn't the best sadly ( renegade hit the spot on this particular point ). Some weapons are... strange ( I never use the pistol in solo, but in multi, it's almost my weapon of choice, odd. On the opposite, the needler gun can be useful in solo - altho I never use it anymore, to be honest, I prefer the plasma weapons-, but completly useless in multi, the homing thing makes it too easy to avoid, in a paradoxal way. Grenades are cool, I've never used them so much in a FPS before :p
My only real gripe with that game is repetition of the same rooms and corridors, dozens of times. I thought that would be mostly outdoor action, how mistaken I was. The little part in the jungle deserved to be much longer, and that corridor crap much shorter. I hope there will be other jungle levels.
On a last note, the mecha design in halo rules, our powersuit, the dropship, the warthog, even those ring defense drones, they all look great.
heh... fun as it is, i found myself many a time without ammo, and facing a lot of flood.... so what do i do?... find the nearest one, and beat it to death with the butt of my rocket launcher for the shotgun it carries..:p
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HARGH!
I hate that warthog part in the last mission, I keep falling before reaching the fighter, when you have to jump above those large voids. And when you fall, you have to start it all over again, of course :doubt:
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Eh? I got it the first time around, and didn't really do all that well (fell off the thing several times, etc.). Just don't stop. Ever.
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the large gap you mean? just floor it, and make sure you go perfectly strait, and don't let off the gas...
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coz you think I was slowing down? Well, kind off, when my warthog bumps against a wall between two floors :doubt:
And it does that every time. Guess I have no luck ( well, that's nothing new to me, actually, having no luck ).
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uhm maybe one of you guys can rip halo soundtrack :)
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if you line up in the center of the hallway just before it, you should be able to make it... the most common problem there is there, is rolling over in the middle... If you're hitting the little grey thing in the big gap, the part about half way down the fall, there's something wrong... that part shouldn't be possible to collide with... you are talking about the gap after FoeHammer dies right? I can think of one other place where you might be having that problem near the beginning...
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Originally posted by Ashrak
uhm maybe one of you guys can rip halo soundtrack :)
Kazaa has the files on it... I think someone had made a playlist entitled HALO that listed all the soundtracks...
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Originally posted by Hippo
if you line up in the center of the hallway just before it, you should be able to make it... the most common problem there is there, is rolling over in the middle... If you're hitting the little grey thing in the big gap, the part about half way down the fall, there's something wrong... that part shouldn't be possible to collide with... you are talking about the gap after FoeHammer dies right? I can think of one other place where you might be having that problem near the beginning...
yeah, yeah, the huge hole thinguy ( seems there's two, actually ), after the dropship gets shot down and you have to reach the hangars to take some fighter. Why the hell didn't they put a checkpoint there, at the dropship pickup point? The race thinguy is fun once, but after the 3rd time, it gets boring, and loooooooooooong :/ ( btw, that's really some weird ship, that pillar of automn, having a rally track like that... )
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there is a checkpoint, on the left of the first pillar in the road after she dies, where the floor is weird and has 5-6 speedbump like things (opposite the little spot of flames)... the scary thing is, you landed in a bay at the beginning that was approximately midships. walked to the bridge, at the FRONT of the ship, then walked to the BACK of the ship for engineering, then up to the TOP of the ship, then along the top, supposedly to one end, (probably the front, since you got the Hog at the end) but then the longsword will be seen coming out the MIDDLE of the ship... not to mention, at the end, you see outside when you run for the fighter, but suddenly that strait shot out, has turned 90 degrees in the movie, since it comes out the side... and the POA is supposedly only 2.5 K long... which doesn't make sense because you drove 2K in approxmately a strait line, just to find yourself at the middle...
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That's no checkpoint, just a loading point. Anyway, I finally made it :p
So, what is that small idiotic bluiesh droid gonna do all alone in the great void of space? :p
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Simple. Come back to be as annoying as hell all over again.
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Originally posted by Nico
HARGH!
I hate that warthog part in the last mission, I keep falling before reaching the fighter, when you have to jump above those large voids. And when you fall, you have to start it all over again, of course :doubt:
Did you try to crawl over the chasm? :wtf:
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there was only one or two places you could have fallen.. and you'd have to try really hard if did. :p
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He means the bit where you jump in the warthog and you always seem to fall out for no reason and die. That really pissed me off too, then I realised that you have to slow down just a touch before you hit the ramp.
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I always hit the jump at max speed. The worst I've ever done is flip the 'hog on it's head.
and that rush through the corridor was the best part of the game! (possibly)