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Title: Orion MK3
Post by: TrashMan on October 20, 2003, 07:39:41 am: I've been at it for half an hour...what do you think?

(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/Pics/OrionMK3.JPG)
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: kasperl on October 20, 2003, 07:43:48 am: a bit fat, but it looks like it could be something.
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Post by: Drew on October 20, 2003, 07:47:47 am: add some wacky a-symetric stuff to it ;)
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Post by: Sigma on October 20, 2003, 07:49:13 am: I like it! :yes:
It looks similar to the Orion made by Woomeister (have a look into the 'Orion Alteration' thread).
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Post by: Devils_Hitman on October 20, 2003, 07:51:57 am: Its doubtfull that the gta would bother refitting old ship designs, better off creating new ones.
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: TrashMan on October 20, 2003, 07:52:28 am: It's allready is a bit asimetric, but I will increase that. Note that it doesn't have turrets yet and that I've just started on it...

This will be a big, powerfull destroyer!
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Sigma on October 20, 2003, 08:01:15 am: Only one question: Why is it named 'Orion MK3' ?
Do you have a Orion MK2, too?
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: kasperl on October 20, 2003, 08:25:52 am: no, the mk2 is floating around here somewhere, made by some japanese guy IIRC.
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: TrashMan on October 20, 2003, 11:01:33 am: I've done a bit more work....
The hull now has around 650 polys (just for comparison, the Deimos has 338):D:

(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/Pics/OrionMK4.JPG)

EDIT: The first one was Orion MK3 coause there's a MK2 out there.... the second one is named MK4 becose I saved it as a new scene and TS increments the number if I don't manually change the name!;7
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Gloriano on October 20, 2003, 11:14:48 am: Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
no, the mk2 is floating around here somewhere, made by some japanese guy IIRC.

(http://www.lares.dti.ne.jp/~hamano/FS/ori2081.jpg)

this one may be;)
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Post by: Woolie Wool on October 20, 2003, 12:53:10 pm: Yup.
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Post by: Ashrak on October 20, 2003, 01:36:55 pm: that front beam looks sweet
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Post by: FreeTerran on October 20, 2003, 01:51:33 pm: yeah indeed
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Post by: SadisticSid on October 20, 2003, 02:03:43 pm: That ship looks cool apart from that stupid oversized gattling gun.
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: magatsu1 on October 20, 2003, 03:08:35 pm: You built that in half an hour ??!!
takes me that long to make a gun barrell ! :shaking:

I like the gatling gun...........
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: TrashMan on October 20, 2003, 03:55:06 pm: Geee thanx a lot H_I_G... Now they're all back discussing the Orion Mk2...

And yes...half an hour for the fist pics (it wasn't unioned at that time..just a bunch of objects).. and another 45min-1 hour to finish the job(the second pic)!
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Post by: Taristin on October 20, 2003, 04:30:14 pm: Textures!!
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Post by: mikhael on October 20, 2003, 04:37:09 pm: I rather like the oversized beam gatling. :D
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Post by: Woolie Wool on October 20, 2003, 05:13:37 pm: Quote
Originally posted by SadisticSid
That ship looks cool apart from that stupid oversized gattling gun.

Yeah, I hate the gatling gun. It looks too animeish and exaggerated.
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Knight Templar on October 20, 2003, 06:05:45 pm: It looks like the Symetrical Orion..
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Post by: mikhael on October 20, 2003, 07:20:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Woolie Wool

Yeah, I hate the gatling gun. It looks too animeish and exaggerated.

Given that Hamano is japanese and an anime fan, it just goes to follow. :D
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Eviscerator on October 21, 2003, 12:27:11 am: Doods. Maybe you should read about the ship before you make judgements.

It's *not* a gatling gun, but a cluster of smaller beam weapons mounted around a central point. When you think about it, it makes a great deal of sense. More weapons taking up less space and able to tap into the same power grid from a centralized location.....
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Post by: Ulala on October 21, 2003, 12:30:52 am: Ugh, original Orion textures... :shaking: :doubt:
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Post by: TrashMan on October 21, 2003, 04:34:12 am: Umm...yeah....I'm gonna need help texturing the thing...
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Post by: Gloriano on October 21, 2003, 05:44:59 am: Quote
Geee thanx a lot H_I_G... Now they're all back discussing the Orion Mk2

:nervous: ;) :nervous: :nervous:
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Post by: Sniper on October 21, 2003, 10:43:05 am: Quote
Originally posted by Eviscerator
It's *not* a gatling gun, but a cluster of smaller beam weapons mounted around a central point. When you think about it, it makes a great deal of sense. More weapons taking up less space and able to tap into the same power grid from a centralized location.....

however it also has weaknesses...like one well placed beam hit and the lot are gone. also focusing firepower on a big unmanuverable destroyer makes it vulnerable to flank and rear attacks.
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Post by: Gloriano on October 21, 2003, 11:00:34 am: well i just love that big gun;)
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Post by: Woolie Wool on October 21, 2003, 11:11:41 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ulala
Ugh, original Orion textures... :shaking: :doubt:

What's wrong with the Orion's textures? They're cool.
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Ulala on October 21, 2003, 10:18:37 pm: I dunno, they just don't really do it for me. Typhon textures don't either. Guess I'm not a loyal FS1-er :nervous: might be cool to see some really great innovative new textures though. :nod:
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Eviscerator on October 21, 2003, 11:59:02 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sniper

however it also has weaknesses...like one well placed beam hit and the lot are gone. also focusing firepower on a big unmanuverable destroyer makes it vulnerable to flank and rear attacks.

Yes, I agree, but that's the beauty of it. Why should it be perfect? If we built the perfect dreadnaught (I refuse to use the term "destroyer"), what would be the point in trying to improve it or build new models? A design weakness would make for a great story device.

Besides, not *all* of its beam weapons are in that cluster.
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Setekh on October 22, 2003, 01:03:14 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ulala
I dunno, they just don't really do it for me. Typhon textures don't either. Guess I'm not a loyal FS1-er :nervous: might be cool to see some really great innovative new textures though. :nod:

Heh, personally, the Orion and Typhon textures (the latter's particularly) remain my favourite in all FS. Well, each to his own. ;)
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Post by: Gloriano on October 22, 2003, 02:22:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh

Heh, personally, the Orion and Typhon textures (the latter's particularly) remain my favourite in all FS. Well, each to his own. ;)

:nod: they are just nice
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on October 22, 2003, 03:31:26 am: I like that ship greatly, TrashMan, it looks very Gorn.
As for the original Orian textures, they rule, and as for that giant gun, I've no quarms with it, as long as it does have more anti-cap beams elsewhere.

Also, I seem to remember a different Orion MkII, back in the day. It had black textures, and was the same model as the usual Orion.
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: TrashMan on October 22, 2003, 07:27:17 am: Upped the polycount more...now it's about 750 polys....

Now I will start adding turrets and make lother LODS....

I ask again... Anyone want to texture it?
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Gloriano on October 22, 2003, 08:27:57 am: just use orion textires
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: TrashMan on October 23, 2003, 04:22:31 am: The one who textures it gets the finished ship + some DOTA stuff!

I'll even put the thing for public download....maby...

I'm kinda very short with time and I don't know if my skill will be enough... But if no one replys I guess I'll have to do it mysef...

Be afraid, be very afraid! :shaking:
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Ulala on October 24, 2003, 01:50:23 am: Quote
Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
just use orion textires

....or great new innovative textures! Herc mk. II doesn't have the same textures as the Herc I :nervous:

I dunno what it is.. I don't much care for the Orion/Typhon textures, but then I don't care for the Hecate/Colossus either (but then, not many do)... man, come to think of it, the only textures that I actually think look real good are the Deimos, maybe the Hatshesput (err, sp?) and the Ravana/Demon/Sathanas group really.. but I suppose the rest are all good. But what do I know, I haven't modeled or textured anything before! ;) I'm just biased to my favorites. :p
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: TrashMan on October 24, 2003, 03:53:11 am: You evidentely like Shivans!
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Post by: Sigma on October 24, 2003, 08:04:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by TrashMan
The one who textures it gets the finished ship + some DOTA stuff!

I'll even put the thing for public download....maby...

I'm kinda very short with time and I don't know if my skill will be enough... But if no one replys I guess I'll have to do it mysef...

Be afraid, be very afraid! :shaking:

Don't know if my modelling skills are good enough to texture it but if you want I can try it!

My e-mail: [email protected]
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: TrashMan on October 24, 2003, 09:02:01 am: I'm currently negotiating with KT.

If it fails you can have it, if not... I've got more ships incoming!
Title: Orion MK3
Post by: Knight Templar on October 24, 2003, 06:58:46 pm: Indeed. Empty your PM box please.