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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: 15thRampage on October 25, 2003, 10:08:57 am
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I dunno you all but Im really exited to see a game of battlestar galactica, to bad is only ofr X-box and PS2 , but I hope a PC version will come soon, it I can see from the immage it seems that it uses an engien similar to StarLancer
well here is the link
http://battlestargalacticagame.com/
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[color=66ff00]Well warthog's got a hand in it so I'd say it was probably very like the starlancer engine. :D
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Dude, the Starlancer engine kicks more ass than the world Kick-Boxing Champion at a Jennifer Lopez look-alike party.
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I never said the Engine is bad, BTW I have never seen a Space Sim Engien bad, more me they all rock, they all have good stff and bad stuff, but they all are food
Engines like StarShaltteres and Vega Stike will rock too, I hope those guys finish a good game on those engien and get enrole on a Game copany to make new Space sim games
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Well if this game does well it might trigger more interest in Space sim games in general. So I hope it is brilliant when it comes out.
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You do realise BSG has one of the largest EVER fan followings?
It finished like 20 years ago and people are still modelling Cylon Raiders and Colonial Vipers for every game out there, even to this very day.
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[color=66ff00]Indeed, and to top it all off it has a really great theme tune. :nod:
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Originally posted by an0n
You do realise BSG has one of the largest EVER fan followings?
It finished like 20 years ago and people are still modelling Cylon Raiders and Colonial Vipers for every game out there, even to this very day.
Yeah. But that won't help much if the game is **** :) In fact if the game itself is rubbish some people who were thinking to develop a space sim will point at it and say that BG couldn't sell well because it was a space sim rather than because it was ****.
That's why I really hope the game sells well.
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looks very good:) somehow i gotta get BSG game when it's out
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I'm in two minds about it. Much as I relish the idea of BSG getting a game at last, albeit on the X-Box, the sweet taste of the idea is heavily soured when you examine where the 'stuff' for the game came from.
It's not based on the original BSG, but the 're-imagined' garbage that Sci-Fi channel is about to spew.
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Oh God, it's not, is it?
Bah. **** it then.
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Gotta love that trailer...I'm glad the original music is returning (I HOPE it does for the new Mini-Series) along with the franchise. It was pretty good.
Now I'm not as much of a BSG purist as others so I have less of a problem with a re-imagined series. If its good, regardless of if its different, then it deserves credit. After all Star Trek: The Next Generation was a re-imagined version of classic Trek but after a few years people were into it big time. So much so that it spawned two spinoffs.
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Originally posted by an0n
kicks more ass than the world Kick-Boxing Champion at a Jennifer Lopez look-alike party.
:wtf:
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Originally posted by 15thRampage
they all are food
they are?!! hooray!
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You can't make a bad opinion on a game by looking at the case. you've got to....fool around with it.
i've got one really stupid question. weren't the cylons created by a race of ancient reptiles? and what the heck happened to them did they get owned by their creations?
just a couple of questions from astrange fellow.
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Originally posted by neo_hermes
i've got one really stupid question. weren't the cylons created by a race of ancient reptiles? and what the heck happened to them did they get owned by their creations?
If I remember correctly, it was something like that, yes. I'm not sure of the reptile connection though.
How come no one ever points out the whole Old Testament connection with BSG? Did everyone miss the whole wandering tribes and Lost Tribe setup and the angels and everything?
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Because it's not only blindingly obvious, but it's also been discussed down to the most minute aspects by all the fanbois for the past 20 years.
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Not being a 'fan' (since I only watched the show during the original production run), I've never seen any such discussion anywhere.
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Try going to a BSG board. I'd imagine it's become something akin to the FS3 thing by now.
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whoa i watched some shots from game and it's nice
and that trailer was awesome
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The viper designs looked a bit off to me, and I don't remember ever seeing a warp effect in a BSG ep, but hey, I'll take it. The trailer was groovy: it was very nice watching the Battlestars leaving orbit with the theme playing in the background. That one of the best background scores in television history.
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Well this is interesting to say the least. The Viper stinks, quite frankly. We only get a fuzzy look at the Raider but from what I can see it looks like they've screwed that up too. The battlestar model on the other hand is quite excellent. I didn't like the modern looking 3D HUD displays. I prefered the 70s terminal with the green triangles and crosses.
If the trailer gives any indication of how their going to approach space combat in the BSG universe, then that's not good news. The Vipers and Raiders are too evenly matched. BSG is all about 10 Vipers mopping up 100 Raiders in about 10 minutes. Leaving the pilots enough time to get back, have a shower, a cup of coffee, and a nice game of pyramid. The action was too fast and too heavily heainfluenced by B5 and late DS9. The weapon effects were not nice. One good thing. It looks like one hit kills are in! That's good news as wiping out a whole wing of Cylon Raiders in 5 seconds is more fun than tailing a Mara for 5 minutes chipping away at it's shield. That's the essence of what a BSG game should be all about. Gung-ho fun.
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Originally posted by IceFire
Now I'm not as much of a BSG purist as others so I have less of a problem with a re-imagined series. If its good, regardless of if its different, then it deserves credit.
same here. I had no problem with the completly overhauled starship troopers universe, plus I've never watched BSG, so... if it's cool, I don't give a damn if it's not cannon with a 20 years old series.
but I gotta say the game looks damn sweet:
(http://www.wcnews.com/newershots/full/battlestargalacticaxb01.jpg)(http://www.wcnews.com/newershots/full/battlestargalacticaxb02.jpg)
(http://www.wcnews.com/newershots/full/battlestargalacticaxb03.jpg)(http://www.wcnews.com/newershots/full/battlestargalacticaxb04.jpg)
And coz I'm nice: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/sim/battlestargalactica/index.html ( lot'sa pics and vids ).
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It *looks* nice, but I'm with IP Andrews on this.
Now, where did I put his old BSG models........*evil cackle*
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Originally posted by Carl
they are?!! hooray!
:p :p .... eeem I mean Good :p
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Originally posted by Nico
same here. I had no problem with the completly overhauled starship troopers universe, plus I've never watched BSG, so... if it's cool, I don't give a damn if it's not cannon with a 20 years old series.
Yeah, I'm with you, Venom* (as long as it flies by stick**, not mouse!).
* What's with the name change you bastard? I can't keep up!
** Speaking of sticks, it looks like no new stick for me again this year. I just got a speeding ticket this morning for driving 20mph over the limit. There wouldn't have been a ticket had I been 10mph over the limit (because of certain silliness with our state laws). It turns out that the road I was on did not have the speed limit I thought it did, and thus, I got Nicoed--er, nicked. :(
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
It *looks* nice, but I'm with IP Andrews on this.
Now, where did I put his old BSG models........*evil cackle*
Send me your email address and I'll send you BSG stuff. That offer goes out to any decent modders with an interest. FS2 does a kick ass BSG.
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I didn't know that there were BSG models for FS2, that mod shoud have rock, but well, let see how this game does to bad there is no PC version of it yet
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Originally posted by IPAndrews
Send me your email address and I'll send you BSG stuff. That offer goes out to any decent modders with an interest. FS2 does a kick ass BSG.
Sailor_Saturn71@[NOSPAM]hotmail.com
I've got the Raider, Viper, Galactica and a FAR too high poly Base Star. But they're all pretty old now.....
A Galactica mod would really rock! There's a LOT of ships that were seen in the show, and there's a HUGE database of ships that weren't seen. Think of the possibilities of setting a campaign during the Cylon war, up until the truce!!
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I'd often thought (okay, it wasn't all that often) that there should be a BSG FS TC out there. Never got around to asking why there wasn't, though.
Let's make one! :)
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I'm on it! So's IP Andrews, or at least will provide a wodge of material!
shipschematics.net has a huge amount of 'stuff' which we can.....'use' even though 98% of it isn't canon. The BSG universe was never chokka with ships anyway. At least, not in the way that B5, SW or ST was.
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So. Are there any modders out there with an interest in BSG who are willing to help Killfrenzy out?
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I don't care where the idea came from, if they don't release it on PC I will be visiting with a baseball bat :)
Vipers with Missiles? Hmmmmm I remember three toilet roll tubes and a Fairy bottle, but I don't remember missiles :D
Flipside :)
And yes, Very very Freelancer graphics, I reckon it's mouse control again. And I really hope you like flying vipers ;)
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Eh?? Fairy bottle? What ARE you on? :D
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I know they used footage of a NASA rocket to represent a missile fired by the Galactica in one episode. Also there's a rag tag fleet ship made out of film cans. They were always doing stuff like that. Those wild and crazy guys!
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I had a few extra BSG ships, but noeone was able to help then... (have to check to see if I kept them or chucked them, like the prison ship, a cargo hauler, and a Cylon BASE STAR, maybe a transport also... Oh and the galactica shuttle...
Anyway I AM a purist... Richard hatch has spent the last 20 years (or Yaurens) fighting to bring back BSG as it was in teh original series (pretending Galactica 80 never happened)... He had MANY of teh surviving cast members behind him and would commit to teh new series if he could get it green lighted.. In fact he created a 3 inute trailer with featured the Heavily modified Warchip Galactica (after 20 years their tech increased and with Commander Appollo in charge they became more aggressive), also it showed the Scarlet Vipers... I poseted the model in a multi shot of WIP's I needed help with once.. SWEET but I do not like Scarlet color... He cannot post it on the internet for some reason, and he cannot announce whenhe will show it (as a convention takes in money and he could be sued if he advertised it and Paramount (?) could sue him for making a profit. (it cost him over $20,000 to make it!), so basicly you can assume it will be shown at any appearence he is at but it is NEVER advertised... Has any of you seen it??? I hope to one day..
Tom Delosantos(sp?) offered to direct the mini-series (and mentioned he would stay true to the original vision, but got called away for X-men 2, so his replacement helped screw it up!!! Blame sci-fi, their $ backer, and the new directer if the mini-series turns out to crap all over the original. I have an open mind, but once you **** with the story that the majority of fans LOVE then you mess with your fanbase and their Wallet ($ we might have spent).... Thoughts?
BTW there was a reptilian race called teh cylons, they created machines to be slaves and soldiers, the cylons took over (except for the imperious leader (The evil entity apollo faces off with and is killed (Apollo)and then ressurected by "angels"... Pactrick Mcgnee(SP?) from the Avengers is the voice of the Imperious leader, the Evil entity (basicly the DEVIL) and the Narrator for the intro to the show... "Life out there..." :cool:
Ask me anything, I probably know it...(except for that!!) :lol:
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Originally posted by IPAndrews
I know they used footage of a NASA rocket to represent a missile fired by the Galactica in one episode.
I thought you knew your Galactica trivia!!
It was 'Living Legend' Part 2, and it was the Battlestar Pegasus that fired those missiles to dispose of a pair of Base Stars. The rocket in question is the third stage of the Saturn V separating in Earth orbit.
Oh, and Star Dragon, if you've got those models lying around I'll be happy to take them off your hands. :)
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How about an email address? BT I wen tto the links from swarm war, I just joine dth eliverpool anime society (I love anime)... L8tr!
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Make the models pubicly available. Even if they never get used for a BSG game, they can form the basis of other mods down the line. :)
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[email protected]
And the LAS actually has showings on a Tuesday evening in the Liverpool University Guild of Students.....
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
The rocket in question is the third stage of the Saturn V separating in Earth orbit.
Smart arse :). Ok, what is the Colonial agro ship better known as?
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Finally u got someone interested on that pile of old galactica stuff..:)
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Originally posted by IPAndrews
Ok, what is the Colonial agro ship better known as?
Hunk of junk? :D
Seriously - I think it was referred to as Agro Ship Nine. Don't think it had a specific name, unlike the Celestra or Rising Star. The other two got smacked by Cylons leaving AS9 as the only survivor.
Tomcat: Wha?? You're going to help? Or do you have some stuff to give? :D
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
Hunk of junk? :D
Oh I'm sorry. The correct answer is... The Valley Forge (from Silent Running). Okay. Here's another one. What was inside Boxey's robot daggit Moffit? Failiure to reply with the correct answer will result in my owning of joo.
Tomcat won't help. He has no interest in BSG. He's just here to take the piss out of me because I'm big on it. :)
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KillFrenzy.... how serious are you about doing this mod?
Drop me a mail [email protected]... I might be interested in helping out
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Oh, I'm VERY interested in this mod. I actually tried to start it up again myself a couple of months ago without telling anyone.
And Ian, you do own me! I know a reasonable amount of BSG trivia, but not THAT much! :D
As for the Agro-ship question, you didn't specify the context of the other name! I assumed it was within the BSG universe, not what the model was otherwise used for! :p
Incidentally, The Viper is in game along with the laser torpedo. I'm still texturing the Raider, but within a week I'm expecting a sample release of the Viper, Raider and a general free-for-all scrap between Vipers and Raiders!
Oh, and boy do you have to fly like a Colonial! No missiles for you and primary weapons that will kill you outright!
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Wowo I never thougth that posting about BSG game will help to finish a allready Stated mod
Good luck PPl make you mod better that the conseole game
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I don't think the mod was in a particularly advanced state, mainly because Ian was working on it by himself, and some of us know how hard that is! :D
But now it might actually get sorted out. I for one won't let it die this time!
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Check your hotmail! I sent you a new viper, the galactia shuttle, the new galactica with fly through bays,two cylons base stars, a unknown ship (think it is a prison ship) and the colonial movers... If I forgot to send one let me know!!!
PLUS I sent independance fighter, Buck rogers fighter, NSEA protector (galaxy quest, LEXX, and Last Starfighter gunstar oh well..
If you can get a biggger mail box I got new scarlet viper from the 3 inute trailer of Richard Hatch's (he helped design it!) 1.60mb and ANDROMEDA (from tv series) 1.60mb also..
I hope you like the other stuff I sent!!!! and better yet can do somethig with them? L8tr!!!
PS post here what you think of the models I sent (I do not use that adress it says in the mail, outlook did that)..
My email is [email protected]
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Thx, SD. The only problem is that both ColonialMovers.rar and CylonBasestar.rar are apparantly infected with a virus.
The other Base Star you sent me is DELICIOUS though! Enough detail there to be useful and yet low enough poly to not screw over FS2!
I'll tell you what I'll do though, I'll PM you another mail address, one with a, let's say, infinite mailbox! :D
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
The other Base Star you sent me is DELICIOUS though! Enough detail there to be useful and yet low enough poly to not screw over FS2!
The base star belongs to Maudib. It's fairly awesome and far superior to mine. There is also a version of it (Maudib's model) in my folder at that url I sent you. Download my version also because it might be slightly newer (read: sexier).
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I've had a look at the one I was sent (converts to pof fine) and it's actually warped slightly. Think of a circular saw blade and you'll get the idea.....
The one at the URL you threw me is in Homeworld format at the moment......and the one I've got of yours from ages ago is far, far too high poly. PCS and Cob2Pof both conk out and die without even trying to convert..........
Base Star = big pain in the ***********
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Were they serious? these were ripped from homeworld mods so are the mods infected also?
is there a way to salvage them? I'll delete them if need be, (should I?) I have a HIGH POLY colonial movers.. and a relly high poly basestar (like 7000-20000 I think)
Hope fully the one tha tis ok is the one I converted and put the textures back on!
BTW how do you like that more detailed galactica? I love the possibility of having fly through bays on both sides and all the way through! We need to make this life size in game!!! The way it should be right? :nod: Like I did with the star trek ships in comparison to FS2 fighters...
l8tr! (also if anyon else you know wants them to work on please spread those otehr well known ships I sent you around is they are not your kind of thing, they have been sittin gon my HD for a year now!!!!) ty...
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I didn't get the Galactica one. :(
And it was hotmail that flagged up the viruses, so I don't know what they are or anything.
As for salvaging them.....I don't know.
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Remember, if this game is using the SCP and HT&L you can use an awful lot more polys than normal, so, using LODS that Mega-High poly BaseStar may just be perfect :)
The Fairy liquid and Toilet rolls thing earlier is about making the original Models for BSG, the Vipers were more or less the above objects :)
This game, strangely enough, was what started me playing the keyboards, cos I loved the title theme and learned to play it on this old stand-up air-powered double keyboard thingy we used to have :)
As for the Virus, possibly. Run a Virus scan on all your drives and hope for the best, it's the only way :)
Flipside :D
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I didn't actually get the virus - hotmail flagged them up before download.
And the problem is not the polys, I know that the SCP can handle them. The problem is the conversion!
BTW, if you're all interested, I just churned out a scratch-built Base Star and plonked it in game with a size of about 5km diameter. The thing's HUGE!!! :D
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The homeworld version of the Base Star is the one to use. It's clean and it converts reasonably well. Use my new battlestar geometry. It has a good balance of polys and detail and it's extremely accurate. More than Maudib's in this case. My Colonial Shuttle is also extremely good.
Flipside. Throwing huge poly models into FS2 isn't as fantastic an idea as it first sounds. Remember, if you stick to standard poly counts or only a little higher, you can instead spend those extra CPU cycles on HUGE battles with far more ships.
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It's all very well having a good Base Star, but I don't know how to convert from Homeworld format to FreeSpace.
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I', sorry!!!
Did I acidently send you the .peo fomats (homeword)?
I use 3dexploration to opent he models in .peo format , then save as .cob.
Then I use TS3.2 to orient the model and then go abck to pcs to convert (test)
After comparing size in game I go back to 3de and resave the .peo as .cob after resizing and texture adding/replaceing (if needed) a nd do the final stuff on the new .pof (engines, guns, subs ect...)
That's how I converted Whitestar, RDF ships, and everything else I ever posted that came from Homeworld, or other games...
What models do you need me to reconvert? (I may not get the chance to be home again until mon or tues, really busy this weekend)...
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Originally posted by Star Dragon
I use 3dexploration to opent he models in .peo format , then save as .cob.
Try using LithUnwrap. It's not just a UV mapping program. It's also a king at converting models. Which model exactly was it you wanted to convert KF? The .peo from my web folder?
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Yeah.
Just tried that and to be honest, the scratch-built Base Star that I churned out yesterday is a little better. It's still not finished, and needs someone to texture it, but I was using images of the ship from the series as a guide. :)
Oh, I've also modified the Battlestar so the launch bay is completely fly through (I've done it!) as well as adding a small nameplate onto which can be applied a variable texture. With that we can have the Galactica, Rycon, Pegasus, Atlantia etc in the same mission without 48 table entries!
EDIT: No I smegging haven't.....For some reason, by drilling a hole through the launch bay it creates the ruddy polygon points >20 error! :hopping: For the life of me I can't spot it.....I'll be trying some tricks though!