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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Shrike on October 26, 2003, 04:35:04 am
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Go find this anime. It's not liscensed yet so you'll have to download it. Now.
Or else I'll go all Divine Punishment Mode on your asses.
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The story seems pretty neat, *puts on list of stuff to download*
http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1161,qjxwrf,scrapped_prince.html
www.sutepri.com (Official site)
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The info on the top site doesn't begin to describe things. As usual for anime, the story kicks into high gear about halfway through.
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Shrike, IRC, Lords, NOW!
:D
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I'll look into it, after I've finished watching gits sac and angelic layer. if I haven't gotten lodoss war by that time.
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Scrapped Princess is pretty good. But so is many other series which I don't even want to begin listing...
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Downloading episode 1 now...
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Ok, looked through the damned page. Where can you d/l the 1st ep with eng sub?
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www.animesuki.com for unlicensed anime bittorrent downloads.
(Admins/mods: sharing unlicensed anime is legal)
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Um. Its anime. Give me a good reason to waste my time?
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
www.animesuki.com for unlicensed anime bittorrent downloads.
(Admins/mods: sharing unlicensed anime is legal)
I know, it's fine - I watch it myself :)
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Bittorrent? HELL NO! :ick I refuse to d/l stuff at 0.5 kb/s while I have a double T3. I just refuse it!
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Originally posted by mikhael
Um. Its anime. Give me a good reason to waste my time?
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Yeah yeah, so you don't like anime. If it's not worth saying, don't bother posting :p
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Exactly. :p
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Yeah yeah, so you don't like anime. If it's not worth saying, don't bother posting :p
Actually, um. No. It is worth saying, so I'll say it again:
Um. Its anime. Give me a good reason to waste my time?
Some anime is worth the waste of time. Its not often that one comes along, but there are actually one or two gems (Detonator Orgunn comes to mind).
So, what makes this specific one worth the waste of time?
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If I'd watched it I could either tell you that answer or agree with you and say that it was a waste of time. Trouble is, I haven't experienced it yet and neither have you. Why brand something a waste of time untill you've given it a chance by looking at it yourself?
Or indeed if you simply don't enjoy anime then don't post in this thread at all.
But for goodness sake, don't simply say it's a waste of time and that you'll not give it a shot, it just makes you look incredibly small minded - and I've no time for people like that. It rather fits into KTs "rebel without a clue" quote in his signiture. Aimless and pointless.
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Why exactly is unlicensed anime legal? IIRC copyright laws are international. What keeps you from breaking copyright law for copyrights in Japan in the rest of the world?
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well scrapped princess is good but there is so many other good anime series
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Why exactly is unlicensed anime legal? IIRC copyright laws are international. What keeps you from breaking copyright law for copyrights in Japan in the rest of the world?
true. it isn't really legal, but noone really does anything about it, until it gets licensed. fansubs usually gets unlicensed anime licensed pretty quickly, at least in the US.
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True - but for the sake of arguement it's a shady area, so we (well I at least..) will turn a blind eye.
Besides, I like unliscened anime ;)
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I wuv gray areas when it comes to things I liek.
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Amen.
But shhhh ;)
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well year ago i hunted down few who shared illegal copyes some music and they said that it's unlicensed but those musics were stolen so we did sue them
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Anime? :ick :ick
Please. What the heck is so ammusing about it?
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
If I'd watched it I could either tell you that answer or agree with you and say that it was a waste of time. Trouble is, I haven't experienced it yet and neither have you. Why brand something a waste of time untill you've given it a chance by looking at it yourself?
Or indeed if you simply don't enjoy anime then don't post in this thread at all.
But for goodness sake, don't simply say it's a waste of time and that you'll not give it a shot, it just makes you look incredibly small minded - and I've no time for people like that. It rather fits into KTs "rebel without a clue" quote in his signiture. Aimless and pointless.
But.. but..!.. It's anime! Anime is teh sux0r!!1 :p
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Thunder, most anime is a waste of time. As I said: not all of it.
I want Shrike, who is recommending I (and everyone else) burn time and effort on this, give a reason why its worth the effort. "It's cool!" or "Because I said so." isn't good enough. Is that so much to ask, really?
But for goodness sake, don't simply say it's a waste of time and that you'll not give it a shot, it just makes you look incredibly small minded - and I've no time for people like that.
If I wasn't going to give it a shot, I wouldn't have asked the question in the first place, would I? Give me some credit.
So, to summarize: Give me a reason why this is cool enough for me to make some effort. Shrike said the description on the page linked way back in the thread sucked, but HE FAILED TO GIVE A BETTER ONE. This is making it very difficult to inspire me to make an effort.
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Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano
well year ago i hunted down few who shared illegal copyes some music and they said that it's unlicensed but those musics were stolen so we did sue them
well, IMO, music is a different thing. you can import music in a language you don't understand and still enjoy it, but it's hard to watch movies in languages you don't understand without subtext in a language you understand and still enjoy it.
an example: czech rock group kabát. I don't get a whole lot of what they're singing, but it still qualifies as highly enjoyable.
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Edit: Argh, this was posted having read up to KTs reply, need to read the new ones that were made while I was typing this response up...
Stupidity, the final weapon in any arguement when you know you have no coherent arguement. Congratulations on proving my point for me :)
Razor, it doesn't always have to be amusing. Sometimes it can deal with things that simply aren't in traditional film format. Ever seen Hellsing? The closest you get to that is Hollywoods half-arsed action movie in the form of the Blade series (unless I'm wrong, in which case I'd love to hear about a serious vampire series. No Buffy does not count).
Anyhow, everyone has their own opinion. I'm happy to hear them if theres a cohesive arguement behind them. As it is, the arguement against anime in this thread is... amusing.
Edit: Ok, now a separate reply to mikhael since he actually put forth a decent arguement. Consider whats about to be aimed at the mighty intellect that is KT and Razor.
Mikhael, thankyou! You actually explained yourself in a way that makes sense and given that, I'm sorry for grouping you with the likes of KT. I've yet to view the anime (damn thing is taking forever and a day to download) so I couldn't say why it's good (or indeed if it's bad). But I'm happy to hear Shrikes response if he has one. In the mean time I can understand why you don't want to waste time downloading something that you subsequently hate, thats entirely fair.
There, all done.
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mikhael, It's waste of time trying to tell others why it is good. Everyone have their own tastes. One loves it, another hates it. That's it. Same story with every other series or movie, anime or no.
And I can only wonder how arrogant people are, saying that anime sucks. It's like saying all action movies sucks. Or all strategy games sucks. It's sad really how simple minded people are.
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I downloaded Scrapped Princess a while back, curious about the name!
I'm glad I did though!!
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Originally posted by Mr. Fury
mikhael, It's waste of time trying to tell others why it is good. Everyone have their own tastes. One loves it, another hates it. That's it. Same story with every other series or movie, anime or no.
If this were true, no one would read video game reviews, movie reviews, or for that matter, listen to advertising.
For the vast majority of people, reviews and advertising and opinions of a product are very important in deciding to consume that product or not.
What I'm asking for is some decent advertising here. The only thing Shrike and I agree on is fashion, literature and girls (and not always the latter), so his initial statement isn't so very useful as review, or advetisement.
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I heard lots of good things abut this series, but I don't have the time to look into it, sadly :(
Originally posted by mikhael
Um. Its anime. Give me a good reason to waste my time?
only good reason: you can't know if you don't try by yourself. Besides, not to be rude, but 24 minutes of your time (or mine ) is worthless. better spend them trying and see if you'll like it, rather than saying "it might be crap" and miss if if after all it fitted your standards. Well, that's my useless opinion on the matter.
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Edit: Argh, this was posted having read up to KTs reply, need to read the new ones that were made while I was typing this response up...
Stupidity, the final weapon in any arguement when you know you have no coherent arguement. Congratulations on proving my point for me :)
Razor, it doesn't always have to be amusing. Sometimes it can deal with things that simply aren't in traditional film format. Ever seen Hellsing? The closest you get to that is Hollywoods half-arsed action movie in the form of the Blade series (unless I'm wrong, in which case I'd love to hear about a serious vampire series. No Buffy does not count).
Anyhow, everyone has their own opinion. I'm happy to hear them if theres a cohesive arguement behind them. As it is, the arguement against anime in this thread is... amusing.
Edit: Ok, now a separate reply to mikhael since he actually put forth a decent arguement. Consider whats about to be aimed at the mighty intellect that is KT and Razor.
Mikhael, thankyou! You actually explained yourself in a way that makes sense and given that, I'm sorry for grouping you with the likes of KT. I've yet to view the anime (damn thing is taking forever and a day to download) so I couldn't say why it's good (or indeed if it's bad). But I'm happy to hear Shrikes response if he has one. In the mean time I can understand why you don't want to waste time downloading something that you subsequently hate, thats entirely fair.
There, all done.
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I never really had an arguement.. other than I really don't like anime as it all tends to be the same to me and a reason why this particular anime is so good, like Mik said, would be supar...
On a side note, I really didn't mean to post so closely after Razor.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
a reason why this particular anime is so good, like Mik said, would be supar...[/size]
well... what other reason do you want than: "we think it's cool"? there's no math equation to prove than an anime is cool, you know... you have to trust people, or not, that's your call, but will saying "the plot is cool, the art is nice, the characters are interesting" will convince you? I don't think so. So as I said to Mike, you can be the only one to decide on that :)
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"The plot is cool because they go here and do this, both of which have never happened in the anime series that is shown the half hour before it on cartoon network."
"The artwork is cool because it looks like this and that and that's actually different, in a better way, from the anime series that's on half an hour before it on cartoon network."
:p
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well i think that most important think in animes is plot if there awesome artwork it's bonus
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Originally posted by mikhael
So, to summarize: Give me a reason why this is cool enough for me to make some effort. Shrike said the description on the page linked way back in the thread sucked, but HE FAILED TO GIVE A BETTER ONE. This is making it very difficult to inspire me to make an effort.
*yawns*
My, this thing got long while I was sleeping.
Anyhow, on the subject of fansubs being distributed, it's a grey area because the studios themselves have turned a blind eye towards it. They simply don't seem to care/mind when its getting into areas that wouldn't recieve it otherwise - remember, fansubs are done on animes that wouldn't otherwise be available in english. So we get the anime and the studios get the exposure for when they do get liscenced.
Anyhow, I could give a long explanation of what's going on in Scrapped Princess, but unfortunately that would irrevocably spoil the entire story. Basically, it's a cool anime with some plot twists and is a lot more than just simple assassins after a princess, one that I'd recommend, but if you're just going to unilaterally declare that you don't want to watch it then I'm not going to bother trying to convince you.
*shrugs*
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Shrike can you give me a reason to spend the time? I'd aask Thunder because he's the only one so far that Gets It, but he's not seen it yet.
Venom: go back and read what I said to Thunder: it explains why I want more than a 'its cool'. Saying "You won't know until you watch it" or "no one can tell you if you'll like it" is absolute bull****.
That said, its more than 24 min of my time because most torrents are slow as hell to download. So yeah, I wanna a bloody reason. Its really not that much to ask.
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ok, how's this describe and explain the first thing that made you say 'wow, cool!' or something similar
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Ok, there were some nifty things early on, but it gets cool when the plot starts to move. It's hard to give say without spoiling a lot of the story.
Basically, Pacifica, the Scrapped Princess is the 'poison that will destroy the world' when she turns 16. Supposedly killed at birth, she was instead saved and raised by a familly that gave her a name - the Casulls. (as a note, every important character has a gun name) Eventually this is found out and they have to start running away. This is basically where the anime itself starts. Soon, they start encountering entities called 'Peacemakers' which are apparently the servants of the god Mauser (see? gun name) who attempt to have Pacifica killed, they can mind control people, but for some reason cannot directly attack her. At about this time they also make contact with a sort-of spirit entity that calls herself Zephiris who helps them - in a couple episodes she helps them take on and kill a Peacemaker. They keep fleeing and once they get to the Kingdom of Giat things start to fall into place and the plot accelerates.
And Mik, if you're complaining about the time to download one episode, just don't bother. You'll have to get a ways into it for things to actually get good. But then it's like crack and you want the rest. ;)
Anyhow, if someone does want it, I can supply episodes. I've also got LastEXILE, which is another one I've recently watched, gave that high marks as well.
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Originally posted by mikhael
Venom: go back and read what I said to Thunder: it explains why I want more than a 'its cool'. Saying "You won't know until you watch it" or "no one can tell you if you'll like it" is absolute bull****.
couldn't bother reading the whole thread. as for the reason, it's the only sensible one I can find, sorry.
That said, its more than 24 min of my time because most torrents are slow as hell to download. So yeah, I wanna a bloody reason. Its really not that much to ask.
you have to be in front of your PC doing nothing when BT is running? ;)
Shrike: I know my tastes are biaised since it's so alike my own Oleon Wars universe, but Last Exile is now my favourite anime, so I couldn't agree more with you on the "high marks" thing :)
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Personally, I normally get pretty good BT speeds. Generally they come to about 100 k/s, depending on how many I have running at once.
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I'm getting about 300k/s on scrapped princess, which I am d/l-ing now. usually doesn't change much when I dl more at the same time.
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I stopped watching Scrapped Princess when I heard it gets incredibly bad around episode 15.
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well, I stopped living when I heard life sucks incredibly hard after age 18.
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Shut up then, dead people shouldn't speak :p
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
Shut up then, dead people shouldn't speak :p
I wasn't speaking, I was typing.
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Enough :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
I stopped watching Scrapped Princess when I heard it gets incredibly bad around episode 15.
Really? That's around when I consider it to get good, about ep 12 or so.
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Well, Shrike, I'll give it a shot--if you can point me to a .torrent with subbed/dubbed language. I just grabbed one that is supposedly trilingual (most of my anime is trilingual actually), but is not. Its just japanese/chinese. :(
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Sorry, I can't help you there. I got it from a friend. I'll have to ask where he got it from first.
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so, after all that, you can't even point us to epps
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Scrapped Princess episodes (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/137.html)
Take Anime-Kraze or Keep & ANBU releases. I don't know other groups that well but those groups should have at least acceptable quality.
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:nervous:
I'll download them after my modem recovers from Invader Zim...
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Originally posted by Bobboau
so, after all that, you can't even point us to epps
Well, he wanted bittorent, I didn't have any BT links for SP on hand. I do have LastEXILE thought, it's about halfway down the page.
http://animeforever.ddrmaniax.net/index.php?goto=downloads
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
it doesn't always have to be amusing. Sometimes it can deal with things that simply aren't in traditional film format.
Exactly. Take a shot with Saikano (Saishuu-Heiki Kanojo). Damn that was depressing series most of the time BUT it was still pretty good.
Scrapped Princess eh? Well if you recommend it then I will try it... ... well it too... among the huge amount of other series :shaking:
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you want something that will shatter you? different, with adult themes ( no, I don't talk about sex or violence there ), and yet that won't be boring?
Try "Now and Then, Here and There" ( Ima Soko ni Iru Boku ). An awesome 13 episodes series that will squeeze your heart many times. I don't recommend it for younger audience, it can be difficult to watch at times for... erm.... weaklings.
Mikhael, try this one ( go past the first episode which is kinda disturbing and doesn't make much sense if you don't see the rest ), and if you don't love it, I'll eat my hat.
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Pretty strong words there, man. Dammit, you lot might actually make me pay for a decent broadband connection so I can download all this stuff.
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welcome to our world :lol:
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no, setekh, don't. you'd have no free time after that.
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forgei peoples should understant that many anime movies&series are not for kids
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Steak: don't do it. Telstra rapes you guys for broadband. :(
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*starts to chant like a zombie* Broadband broadband broadband broadband broadband broadband broadband....
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Originally posted by Gortef
*starts to chant like a zombie* Broadband broadband broadband broadband broadband broadband broadband....
:nervous:
mushroom!
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*voice* doubleT3 ,doubleT3 ,doubleT3, doubleT3 *chant*:p ;)
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umm... ok.
uni backbone, uni backbone, uni backbone, uni backbone, etc ad infinitum
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Originally posted by kode
mushroom!
:lol:
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exactly :lol:
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Sorta off topic, but does anyone happen to have The Slayers Try series? I've been looking for that one for some time now, so far no luck...
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i got it DVD