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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on November 02, 2003, 06:21:13 am

Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Sandwich on November 02, 2003, 06:21:13 am
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/031029/241/5pisb.html&e=1&ncid=

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

That means that a 1280x1024 (or 1280x960 for you purists) screen would be a mere 4.3"x3.4" / 10.8x8.6cm (4.3"x3.2" / 10.8x8.1cm with the 1280x960).

For comparison, most computer screens nowadays are somewhere between 60-100 ppi.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Setekh on November 02, 2003, 06:24:55 am
That's remarkable! :eek2: Gee, you could make those things into digital photo albums with that kind of resolution. Stick one in your wallet. :)

Oh, and while we're on ridiculously small cool things: the Sony DSC-T1. 5 megapixels, 3x optical zoom... and it's the size of a credit-card, 9cm across (2cm deep). Damn...

And check out the size of the LCD... (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0310/sonydsct101-001.jpg)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0310/03102202sonydsct1.asp
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Fineus on November 02, 2003, 06:57:09 am
Wow, I wouldn't mind one of them! Imagine the detail you could suddenly have on a 19 inch flatscreen with that tech! :eek:
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Ashrak on November 02, 2003, 07:01:53 am
wohoa thats SO cool
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 02, 2003, 07:20:45 am
Feh, I'll be impressed when they make 300 inches per pixel, and not before.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: vyper on November 02, 2003, 07:34:10 am
Sweet. :yes:
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Odyssey on November 02, 2003, 08:04:06 am
Thunder - yeah, a 19 inch flatscreen with one of those:
"Hey, where's my start button? ~fetches magnifying glass~"
Nah, the only flatscreen I've got is obviously superior - it's on a very old laptop, 800x600 at 11.6 inches :p It'd seriously hurt my eyes otherwise.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Knight Templar on November 02, 2003, 11:15:25 am
I'll be amazed when It's on my desktop. :p
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: ZylonBane on November 02, 2003, 11:31:34 am
For the near-to-mid term, this technology is mostly going to be useful for VR equipment. Imagine having the equivalent of a 21-inch hi-res display floating in front of you.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: TheCelestialOne on November 02, 2003, 11:33:49 am
...nice...very nice...
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Gloriano on November 02, 2003, 11:37:55 am
wow very nice indeed
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Sandwich on November 02, 2003, 04:43:03 pm
There seems to be a misconception among, well, everyone so far, that letters will continue to remain 1 pixel thick, interface elements will be remain similarly small... If this were going to be the case, then we'd also be seeing books with text printed in the smallest possible font size.

For those of you who have seen a Sony Clie, think about the pixels per inch that screen has. It's pretty high, and if they had regular-sized monitors with that ppi, you can rest assured that there will be new "hi-res" or "rich" interfaces coming out in furute OSes.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Odyssey on November 02, 2003, 04:47:42 pm
I still think it's easier to just make the screen bigger for more resolution :p Looks better too.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Sandwich on November 02, 2003, 05:00:50 pm
No, you're not getting it... with 300ppi, text on a regular-sized monitor could look as good as a printed page out of a book.

Now that's what I'm talking about! :nod:
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: WMCoolmon on November 02, 2003, 08:59:39 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich
No, you're not getting it... with 300ppi, text on a regular-sized monitor could look as good as a printed page out of a book.


After 70 years of technological innovation, we're finally back where we started 400 years ago.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Drew on November 02, 2003, 10:49:16 pm
cool
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Sandwich on November 03, 2003, 01:08:11 am
Quote
Originally posted by WMCoolmon


After 70 years of technological innovation, we're finally back where we started 400 years ago.


When was the last time you played a kickass game on a book? :D
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Descenterace on November 03, 2003, 02:36:02 am
Yesterday.
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Post by: Drew on November 03, 2003, 08:31:44 pm
*tags sandwirch*

your it! ;)
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Sandwich on November 04, 2003, 01:08:37 am
My it? What about my it?
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Setekh on November 04, 2003, 02:25:14 am
Grammar rant:

You're = you are
Your = possessive
It's = it is
Its = possessive
Revelations != last book in the Bible
Revelation = last book in the Bible

Thank you for your time. ;)
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Fineus on November 04, 2003, 05:11:59 am
;7
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Sandwich on November 04, 2003, 07:52:45 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
Revelations != last book in the Bible
Revelation = last book in the Bible


hmm... I'll have to check that in the Hebrew. :p
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Admiral LSD on November 04, 2003, 08:14:40 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich
There seems to be a misconception among, well, everyone so far, that letters will continue to remain 1 pixel thick, interface elements will be remain similarly small... If this were going to be the case, then we'd also be seeing books with text printed in the smallest possible font size.

For those of you who have seen a Sony Clie, think about the pixels per inch that screen has. It's pretty high, and if they had regular-sized monitors with that ppi, you can rest assured that there will be new "hi-res" or "rich" interfaces coming out in furute OSes.


Trouble is though, the vast majority of the current crop of computer users are uneducated retards so when they start trying to do that it'll elicit cries of "GAY!!!11!!" or "THAT'S WEENIEFIED, I'LL NEVER USE IT!11!!" slowing take-up to an absolute crawl.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Sandwich on November 04, 2003, 11:32:09 am
I'm not following you.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Carl on November 04, 2003, 12:36:25 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
No, you're not getting it... with 300ppi, text on a regular-sized monitor could look as good as a printed page out of a book.

Now that's what I'm talking about! :nod:


fun fact: print resolution for professional digital print-outs actually is 300 dpi.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Drew on November 04, 2003, 02:24:16 pm
i dont think that its quite the same thing...
screens vs paper?
nahhhhhhhhh..............

(or am i missing the point sandwich)
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Sandwich on November 04, 2003, 04:15:42 pm
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Originally posted by Carl
fun fact: print resolution for professional digital print-outs actually is 300 dpi.


Uhm, yeah, exactly. I guess this was my bad that I assumed people were aware of this. Oops. :nervous:

Quote
Originally posted by Drew
i dont think that its quite the same thing...
screens vs paper?
nahhhhhhhhh..............

(or am i missing the point sandwich)


I think you're missing the point. Grab a high-quality printed sheet of paper. Look at the letters. Can you see the "pixels" each letter is composed of? Probably just barely. Most likely there are 300 of those "pixels" (points in print-speak) every inch - each one is 1/300th of an inch in size.

Now look at your computer screen. See the pixels? there are probably no more than 100-120 pixels per inch. You can see the stair-step effect on diagonal lines (aliasing), you can see the difference in quality between text in the Times New Roman font at 12 point on screen (looks like crap, to be honest), and that same text and size when printed (niiice).

Ok so far?

Now imagine that your computer screen was displaying everything it currently has on it at the same size (your browser window is 6 inches tall or so, etc), but it's using many many more pixels to display that same image. Fonts - even at 8 point - look smooth. Single-pixel diagonal lines of the past can now appear to be the same width, but actually be 3 pixels in width, allowing a much smoother blending of the line with its BG.

Et cetera, et cetera.
Title: 300 pixels per inch!!!! Wow!
Post by: Drew on November 04, 2003, 09:40:40 pm
oh ok....
cool :D