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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Setekh on November 03, 2003, 06:47:50 am
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Favourite sci-fi series or movie, and why?
I've just been Stargate-crazy these past few weeks (maybe because I'm waiting to find out more about Anubis, his supersoldier, and the whole Atlantis spin-off), so I'm going to say SG-1. Because: I can believe it; the SGC uses technology they find and aren't in the whole "new episode, everything is wiped clean" grain; and because it has some great tongue-in-cheek moments. ;) Like:
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(later) Jack: In the middle of my backswing?!
:D
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Babylon 5, perhaps not as consistently funny as SG-1 but the story is a real rollercoaster ride and the effects are top-notch. Great stuff.
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i'd have to go with steak with stargate :nod:
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Gotta be Star Wars, with SG - 1 A ridiculously close second. Now that I've shot down Ties in an X Wing, I sooooo want to kill some Death Gliders in an X - 302. :D
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Starship Troopers; the series.
Made me kinda sad- but its a good series :D
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1. Futurama (I mean, COME ON! :p)
2. Babylon 5
3. ST: DS9
4. SG-1
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No idea, too much stuff, and haven't seen enough...
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Series: Invader Zim. Excellent series, and interesting idea. Babylon 5 is on a second position.
Movie: Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back. It may not be totally great, but it is good, and I can't recall anything better. The fact that I never saw any B5 movie do not help.
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Stargate rules, it's definately up there.
Andromeda is pretty cool too, but in a different way (and I've only watched the first two seasons, so I didn't see any of the allegedly crappy episodes of seasons three and four). The way space combat is portrayed is really good, they actually put their tech to good use (extreme long ranges and high speeds, kinetic strikes, etc.) and the continuity up to the point I watched is fairly good. The scene on the first ep of season two with the mechs on the Andromeda's hull killing the swarmships was a classic.
As for books, Honor Harrington is pretty fun if you want some mindless missile massacres, but it's getting a bit too repetitive on the latest books. Hyperion is very good, and fun as well as thought provoking - but the Endymion books somewhat ruined the whole story for me.
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Andromeda... hmmm... The series was ok I guess but Kevin Sorbo AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! ARGH! He killed the series.
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In no particular order:
Series:
1) Babylon 5
2) BATTLESTAR GALACTICA!!!!!
Movies:
1) Star Wars IV, V and VI (especially VI for BoE)
2) Babylon 5: In the Beginning
3) Starship Troopers
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Originally posted by TheCelestialOne
Andromeda... hmmm... The series was ok I guess but Kevin Sorbo AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! ARGH! He killed the series.
Kevin Sorbo? As in Hercules? :lol:
I wish B5 would screen here (at reasonable times :p), so I can enjoy and compare it. ;)
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Originally posted by Setekh
Kevin Sorbo? As in Hercules? :lol:
Yes :shaking:
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I never watched Hercules, so I don't give a damn. I say he's pretty good at the role.
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DUNE! nothing comes even close to comparison.
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Originally posted by kode
DUNE! nothing comes even close to comparison.
Alien, dune, star wars.
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Babylon 5 - The next best thing since sliced bread (and consequently our last best hope for victory). Nothing I´ve seen on TV comes as close to being almost literature than B5. Character developement - top notch, very stage-like dialogue, which I like (yeah, people say it´s unrealistical, but so what. So is Oedipus Rex), ****ing great space battles,
and the only scenes in TV and Movie history that have made me cry (!). And remember that I can watch Braindead while eating pudding, natch. I am of course referring to two episodes in particular (SiL and The Fall of Centauri Prime).
Oh, did I mention some truly great actors (Peter Jurasik, Andreas Katsulas, Michael O´Hare, Patricia Tallmann, Jeff Conaway, Wayne Alexander, Ed Wasser, Brad Dourif (who starred in Lord Of the Rings), John Schuck, Marjorie Monaghan, Ardwight Chamberlain (a cookie to whoever can guess who he played), John McGill (who I have liked since MacGyver), Efraim Zimbalist Jr., Mark Schneider, just to name a few).
And then there´s JMS.
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Oh, and The Long Twilight Struggle, Comes The Inquisitor, the Coming Of Shadows, The Fall of Night, and about a dozen other episodes contain the best dramatic scenes in TV and cinema. Find me one person (with at least a slight literary background) who doesn´t enjoy COS, and he gets a boxfull of cookies
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1) Babylon 5 (no doubt here)
2) Farscape (a VERY good series when i wrote this i was debateing to put it 1st or not ;))
3) ST: DS9 (also a great series bit old but still ownz)
4) ST: Voyager (well i liked the special FX)
Movie:
1) ST: Generations
2) ST: nemesis
3) A Call to Arms
4) In the Beginning
thats about that ;)
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Originally posted by Stunaep
Ardwight Chamberlain (a cookie to whoever can guess who he played[/B]
Kosh .... now wheres that cookie? ;)
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Stargate
Babylon5
Blade runner
and few anime series
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I don't know why no anime titles were included:
Top3 series for me:
Babylon 5
- though later it gets a little flat, but even if the overall is not 100% super is has the best moments.
Gundam 0083
-A must be if you want to have a taste of war - not as figting and heroics but as human drama too
-Of all the gundam franchise *only ST is bigger- this is the only one created by a different director than the original one - though just like the ill-fated 8th MS Gundam it's director died midway through creating the series
-For once you have to abbandon the good-guys/bad-guys setup.
Stargat - SG1
-Definitly a top-notch show, though the sheer lenght of the series forcesthe includement of some mediocre episodes.
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B5 - the story has some depth to it.. its alive and huge
2001 - a slap on your face, somehow hard to put it into words..
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Series:
Star Trek (Original was most fun; DS9 was most well-made)
Movie:
Back to the Future :D
Star Trek II-IV
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TAS was fun? LMAO
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Originally posted by Setekh
Favourite sci-fi series or movie, and why?
I've just been Stargate-crazy these past few weeks (maybe because I'm waiting to find out more about Anubis, his supersoldier, and the whole Atlantis spin-off), so I'm going to say SG-1. Because: I can believe it; the SGC uses technology they find and aren't in the whole "new episode, everything is wiped clean" grain; and because it has some great tongue-in-cheek moments. ;)
I'd say Babylon 5 for most of the reasons Steak has put up there. SG has the great habit of not pressing the reset button after every episode and they do it well but I'd bet they got the idea from B5 who were pretty much the first to do it.
And basically no one has since done it better. Almost every character in B5 is changed in some way at the end of season 5. even minor characters like lt. Corwin are different the last time we see them. The fact is no one could go through 5 years like that and not have been changed by the things that happened.
But the icing on the cake is that B5 has the greatest final episode of any series ever. It ties up the whole series and shows that from the moment the first episode was aired that the ending had been planned.
For best movie I'd probably say Aliens : Special Edition. That film was spot on in so many respects and if you thought the original was good the addition of the whole robot sentinals bit just hikes up the tension (I only wish I'd seen that version first).
As for books I'd probably say Larry Niven's Protector. Basically a realistic view of fighting at a fair percentage of lightspeed and one where the Author didn't feel the need to slap humanity on the back and say how much better we are than other aliens. The pak could go through humankind in seconds.
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Originally posted by Ashrak
TAS was fun? LMAO
who mentioned the animated series? he mentioned tos, tho.
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Ashrak: TOS != TAS
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TOS isnt TAS the last time i remeber
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:wtf: That's what I said... :wtf:
EDIT: "!=" means "not equal to" in many programming languages.
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Babylon 5, hands down. Nothing ever impacted me or taught me as much as that show. Everything about it has inspired me. It has shown me the lives of people in a way that makes you feel your living that life. And, it's quality Sci-Fi. Quality special effects, hell, even the music owns - Some of those scores really made the slightly duller episodes great ! Farscape recreated some of that "impact", but all in all never topped B5.
Please don't state your answers btw unless you have seen all current or the whole series, since you can't pass any judgements correctly..
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[color=66ff00]Tv: Bab5 and Farscape really get me going.
Movies: The last starfighter, empire, aliens.
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wow. Bab5 and Farscape are number one in my book. Bab5 had the vast intricate story, with the full weight of the series behind each episode. Farscape was lighter, but just as entertaining, but you didn't have to fight each episode to the ground to digest it. One satisfied one half the brain, and one satisfied the other.
Star Wars and Dune come in next on the list. More left/right brain dichotomies.
My favorite scifi though, is not a movie or a series. Its in two series of books: the Bench novels (about Andrej Kosciusko) and the Chung Kuo books.
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Originally posted by karajorma
But the icing on the cake is that B5 has the greatest final episode of any series ever.
The final episode of B5 was garbage. It had absolutely no redeeming standalone qualities, relying instead on its "Hey! I'm the last episode!" status to carry it through. The destruction of B5 was pointless ("It's a hazard to navigation and nobody comes here anymore." Huh??) and ineptly executed (they blew it up, creating massive amounts of spaceborne debris, instead of simply deorbiting it). The Ascension of Sheridan was so predictably executed it was painful to watch. 2001 did it better, 30+ years ago. And then JMS goes introducing some new story arc... in the final episode! Bleah.
B5 has its good points, but the fundamental problem with it is that JMS is a science fiction fan, not a science fiction writer. The science in B5 was pretty firmly at the comic-book level.
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S:AAB (;7), SG-1, Alien/s, Predator 1/2, Stargate and T2. Then for utterly shallow but cool looking entertainment I'll take Event Horizon, Pitch Black and JC's Ghost of Mars. Does Transformers the Movie count as sci-fi?
Oh, and needless to say Dark City rules over all.
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I'd say B5 minus post-Shadow episodes (kinda lost it's way)
SG1. No one can beat the genius of Richard Dean-Anderson (just don't mention the McGuyver mullet)
Battlestar Galactica.
The Thing is a favourite film of mine.
can i include Red Dwarf ?
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hmmm....nobody here has seen the starship troopers series? O_o
The only other good series i know is ST: TOS, ST:TNG and ST:VOY. These are mostly hte only sci-fi series i have grown up on. We don't get B5 so :P
Movies:
(keep note that in India, Sci-fi is not considered.....'good' viewing)
ST: Generations
T3 (love that twist at the ending)
Starship Troopers
ST: Nemesis (why did i put this here...They killed Data off!!!!)
Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (battle of endor....what can i say? only good part of the movie)
Freespace 2 cut-scenes!
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uhh
ds9 owns ass off tng and voy :)
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
The final episode of B5 was garbage. It had absolutely no redeeming standalone qualities, relying instead on its "Hey! I'm the last episode!" status to carry it through. The destruction of B5 was pointless ("It's a hazard to navigation and nobody comes here anymore." Huh??) and ineptly executed (they blew it up, creating massive amounts of spaceborne debris, instead of simply deorbiting it). The Ascension of Sheridan was so predictably executed it was painful to watch. 2001 did it better, 30+ years ago. And then JMS goes introducing some new story arc... in the final episode! Bleah.
B5 has its good points, but the fundamental problem with it is that JMS is a science fiction fan, not a science fiction writer. The science in B5 was pretty firmly at the comic-book level.
Ah, so because JMS creates probably the most literary, interesting characters that actually evolve during the series, a story that is at least slightly original (oh, I so loved the freakishly original and allegorical (allegory! how many years has it been since I saw you on screen) ending to the shadow war arc) and all that with half of ST's budget, he's not an SF writer. While what the people who keep pumping out crap like Enterprise are? Oh yeah.
Yes, the science is at a comic-book level, but face it: it's better than "Rotate-transphasic-generators-at-megalopump-carnivorous-antonymity" stuff we get at some of the later ST episodes. Hell even Asimov has hyperdrives.
I don't quite understand what new arc JMS introduced in SiL. I do understand that the blowing up B5 part was supposed to illustrate how the fates of Sheridan and B5 are closely tied. Besides, it made one hell of a emotion-impression thing.
I just think you want to argue.
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Originally posted by Singh
T3 (love that twist at the ending)
That was rather cool yes. Arnie's always a mouthful. I saw the twist coming a mile away, though.
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Series:
1. Babylon 5
2. Stargate SG-1
Movie:
STII:WoK
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
instead of simply deorbiting it
And Draal is supposed to be happy about someone deorbiting a 2,500,000 ton station into his planet? :rolleyes:
If you don't like it go away and write something better yourself ZB.
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Originally posted by karajorma
If you don't like it go away and write something better yourself
You do realize that "shut up unless you can do better" is logical gibberish, yes?
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Macross Plus was a great sci-fi movie, the Macross TV series pwned as well (the movie version of it was a travesty).
*notes to himself to get the Babylon 5 DVD set so he can see what everyone's going on about*
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
You do realize that "shut up unless you can do better" is logical gibberish, yes?
And that's different from almost everything you post to these boards how?
Are you so ashamed of your own choice of favourites that you don't want to hold them up to public viewing? You couldn't even be bothered to post your own list of favourites. Your only ability was to disagree with someone else.
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Calm down guys :)
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I didn't like SIL either, I think it could have been done better.
but, my top three scifi favorites in no particular order becase I like them so much there is no reliable measn by wich to measure:
Babalon 5 (didn't like season 5 very much, but that's becase most of what was suposed ot go into s5 went into s4 so there wasn't much left to do + TNT fuxoing)
Invader Zim - I can't beleve only one other person listed this, its quite posably the greatest works of comedy ever made, and exelent action
SG1 - yes we all love SG1, becase it rocks so much, we still have to wait three more months to see what comes of the new army of geneticaly modifyed human/goa'uld woriors, I think the altering of actual goa'uld may have been the reason for Anubis' origonal banishment
and in a good but defanant fourth ST:DS9-who wouldn't like the story of WW2 told with huge ass ****ing spaceships of doom!
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since sealab 2021 takes place at the bottom of the sea would that count? :D
i'll watch stargate occasionally, but thats about it.
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I'd like to register a vote AGAINST SG1. I consider it one of the worst things in television science fiction history. Its right next to Voyager and Andromeda. Absolute crap.
Originally posted by Stunaep
I just think you want to argue.
Well he IS the HLP designated troll.
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Series: B5, last season was a bit of a letdown though.
Films: T2 or Aliens.
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Originally posted by mikhael
I'd like to register a vote AGAINST SG1. I consider it one of the worst things in television science fiction history. Its right next to Voyager and Andromeda. Absolute crap.
Reasons?
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probly the comedic element it has been flexing quite promonently as of late, a trend wich I myself am none to hapy about, but it still kicks ass in my opinion
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Originally posted by Bobboau
SG1 - yes we all love SG1, becase it rocks so much, we still have to wait three more months to see what comes of the new army of geneticaly modifyed human/goa'uld woriors, I think the altering of actual goa'uld may have been the reason for Anubis' origonal banishment
You know, dude, that's the best guess I've heard so far as to Anubis' "unspeakable crimes".
Mik, one of the worst things? Yeah, I want to know too, Styxx.
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well it's prety simple, what would be an unspeakable crime to a race that uses people as slaves, tools, and entertainment, and considers it'self to be gods
well they wouldn't give a damn about anything he did to humans, wouldn't give a damn about what body count he racked up, in fact it would probly make him more popular, but once you start turning the gods them selves into play things, once you defile the mental image of self perfection, you have crosed the line
/*runs off to lurk at the sg1 forums*/
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Yeah, that's pretty logical. :) I'm sad though, RDA is appearing in less and less appearances, and if everything rumoured goes ahead in Season 8, we'll probably see hardly any of him. I wonder how they're going to screen Atlantis and S8 together without... I dunno. Wait and see, I guess.
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Originally posted by karajorma
And that's different from almost everything you post to these boards how?
It's different in that I actually try to make logical sense when I argue. If you can't understand my arguments, that's your problem.
And for the record, my favorite sci-fi series are pretty much the same as everyone else here, and hence redundant to ennumerate. Stargate:SG-1RedDwarfInvaderZimDS9Babylon5(seasons1-4)TNGBladeRunnerDarkCityadda yadda happy now?
Oh yeah, and Quark. Bet I'm the only one here who remembers that one.
Originally posted by mikhael
I'd like to register a vote AGAINST SG1. I consider it one of the worst things in television science fiction history. Its right next to Voyager and Andromeda. Absolute crap.
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Well he IS the HLP designated troll.
Oh, sweet irony.
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Originally posted by mikhael
I'd like to register a vote AGAINST SG1. I consider it one of the worst things in television science fiction history. Its right next to Voyager and Andromeda. Absolute crap.
Would you care to elaborate? One of the reasons I enjoy Stargate is that it doesn't take itself too seriously when compared to shows such as Star Trek, (insert incarnation here) etc.
Plus there is an ongoing story arc. Now I'm certain a first impression of the show can be negative, if it wasn't for the fact I enjoyed the movie I would have shrugged the show off as mindless marines v.s. endless army of slug people in egyptian suits. But then there's episodes where they poke fun at that, so unlike Trek/Wars/etc. they do realise their absurdities.
But for some reason, whenever Anubis is on screen I can't help but think that Shadows are going to appear... :p
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SG was a lot more serius in the first 2-3 seasons, and I think I liked it better, the show just seemed like a much more realistic depiction of what us contacting aliens would be like, and untill the end of S1 it seemed like there wern't even any FTL ships in exsistance, or at least that it still took an impractical amount of time to get around by ship
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Futurama 100% :D
and if you disagree you can select one of the following
A. Bite my shiny metal ass
B. Bite my colossal metal ass
C. Bite my glorious golden ass
D. Bite my splintery wooden ass
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
It's different in that I actually try to make logical sense when I argue. If you can't understand my arguments, that's your problem.
Ah, then explain to me that logic. I'm curious. (for the record, I admit failing to argue with you in the Max Payne 2 thread. This time, I've learned)
Oh, sweet irony.
No, not really.
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Originally posted by Singh
hmmm....nobody here has seen the starship troopers series?
Roughnecks? I do :)
I was kindda disturbed by the fact it wasn't ased much on the movies, tho ( funnilly enough, I had no problem with the movie not using much of the book :p ).
Nah, honestly, I really like it, excepted they completly removed all the gore, and with giant insects, you NEED gore :p
The ships in Roughnecks rule, btw :) ( gotta love that dropship, the best thing since the Cheynne from Aliens :D )
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By Cheyenne do you mean Sulaco? Or was that name of the actual dropship?
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Yeah, that's the dropship.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
It's different in that I actually try to make logical sense when I argue. If you can't understand my arguments, that's your problem.
I understand your arguments fully ZB. It's just that I've reached the point where it's obvious that they aren't worth listening to any more.
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I've taken to ignoring ZB safe in the knowledge that, should I ever meet him, I'll punch his lights out.
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
By Cheyenne do you mean Sulaco? Or was that name of the actual dropship?
Yeah, the dropship, sorry about that.
To put things clear:
the sulacco is a Conestoga Class starship ( the thirteenth actually, yeah fluff :p )
the dropship is an AD4L Dropship, often called Cheyenne.
for fun:
AD4L weaponary:
1 x 25 mm gatling gun with 900 rounds
32 x 150 mm unguided rockets
12 x 70 mm unguided rockets
8 x 120 mm guided rockets
7 x AGM-220 air-to-ground missiles
3 x TSAM threat suppression missiles
3 x AIM-90 short range air-to-air missiles
I'd call that a gunship, not a dropship, but hey, that's just me :p
As far as I know, with the APC, it's the Alien vehicle with the most detailled background. Even have the engine specs and stuff.
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Originally posted by Setekh
Mik, one of the worst things? Yeah, I want to know too, Styxx.
I dislike the visual design, the hackneyed Star Trek style writing, pretty much all of the actors, etc. Everything done on SG1 was done better by Sliders and Star Trek, except the effects. The effects were done better by Babylon5.
The whole show completely fails to enthuse me. I actually like Voyager much better, and Andromeda lots and lots better and I dislike both of them. At least Voyager had Captain Proton and Andromeda had the Andromeda and Kevin Sorbo as Dillon (Yes, he actually made the show, pathetic as that sounds).
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Originally posted by mikhael
I dislike the visual design, the hackneyed Star Trek style writing, pretty much all of the actors, etc. Everything done on SG1 was done better by Sliders and Star Trek, except the effects. The effects were done better by Babylon5.
The whole show completely fails to enthuse me. I actually like Voyager much better, and Andromeda lots and lots better and I dislike both of them. At least Voyager had Captain Proton and Andromeda had the Andromeda and Kevin Sorbo as Dillon (Yes, he actually made the show, pathetic as that sounds).
It is indeed a matter of taste, because I think more or less the opposite: the writing in SG-1 is more believable than any other sci-fi show out there - the characters seem real, and act real, their decisions are mostly logical and there's great internal continuity - as are the effects - the sets, as the characters, seem real enough (even if it's a bit strange to have either a desert or a pinewood forest in every planet out there, but that can't really be avoided), and the space scenes are as good as anything out there right now, and frankly, much better than the overly plastic and cartoonish scenes on Babylon 5...
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I've taken to ignoring ZB safe in the knowledge that, should I ever meet him, I'll punch his lights out.
In case of that eventuality, I suppose I'll recognize you by your sloped forehead and dragging knuckles. Ook.
Originally posted by mikhael
I dislike the visual design, the hackneyed Star Trek style writing, pretty much all of the actors, etc. Everything done on SG1 was done better by Sliders and Star Trek, except the effects. The effects were done better by Babylon5.
Ah, I see the problem here. You thought we were talking about the other Stargate: SG-1. See, we're all talking about the one that's none of those things you just mentioned. Our SG-1 has talented actors, interesting characters, incredible continuity (something the reset-button-happy Trek never excelled at), a somewhat believable military hierarchy (another thing Trek never managed), plots that rarely lean on technobabble, and spaceships that don't look like they flew out of a comic book.
You really should check it out some time.
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Our SG-1 has talented actors, interesting characters, incredible continuity (something the reset-button-happy Trek never excelled at), a somewhat believable military hierarchy (another thing Trek never managed), plots that rarely lean on technobabble, and spaceships that don't look like they flew out of a comic book.
Ah, all the qualities of another series called Babylon 5, that you so happily subdued a few dozen posts earlier. Thank you. Saves me the trouble of writing.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
In case of that eventuality, I suppose I'll recognize you by your sloped forehead and dragging knuckles. Ook.
If you can see through your black eye
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I'm not about to read all 3 pages of this so don't rape me if it's been named already but my favorite sci fi movie has to be Event Horizon. I would clasify it as a horror, but it was in a sci fi environment.
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Babylon 5 merely had pretensions of continuity. Yes, it had this oppressively massive story arc (that got screwed up every time an actor left), but that was pretty much it. Episode-specific stuff that didn't have anything to do with the Great Arc tended to be forgotten. The only exception I can think of is the alien healing machine.
Effects were good for the time (if overly colorful), but to claim that they're better than SG-1, which benefits from several years of advances in CGI, is nothing short of absurd.
Another thing I like about SG-1 is that it can be funny within the context of the series. B5's attempts at humor were more often than not painfully hamfisted. I almost never felt I was watching a B5 character say something funny-- I felt like I was watching a B5 character deliver a line which JMS thought would be funny.
EDIT-- As for Diamond-G... gotta love the "I agree with what you just said about me!" comeback. :lol:
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Maybe I've just walked into this movie a little late, but you fanboys need to chill. Step away from the keyboard and take a breather, that sort of thing. In, and out. In, and out.
Anyway: Farscape. I like Farscape myself. It's nice.
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We are talking about the Showtime SG1? the one that moved to SciFi?
Yeah. That's the one I don't like.
Someone put the troll back under his bridge.
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I want to see how funny Zylon is once I've broken his nose
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series? most sci-fi series are crap. They all tend to shoot themselves in the foot with massive technicality and bad acting.
Movies?
1.Original Star Wars\T2
2.Aliens
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Originally posted by Blaise Russel
Maybe I've just walked into this movie a little late, but you fanboys need to chill.
Aw, but it's fun baiting DG. The guy's a master of reductio ad fisticuffs. Although as you see, it does get a little boring once he starts repeating himself.
Anyway, ummm... I liked TRON. And Misfits of Science.
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TRON. Yes. TRON good.
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Argh... how could I forgot MST? It was hilarious. Shame that I only saw the movie, but it still rocked.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Babylon 5 merely had pretensions of continuity. Yes, it had this oppressively massive story arc (that got screwed up every time an actor left), but that was pretty much it. Episode-specific stuff that didn't have anything to do with the Great Arc tended to be forgotten. The only exception I can think of is the alien healing machine.
Effects were good for the time (if overly colorful), but to claim that they're better than SG-1, which benefits from several years of advances in CGI, is nothing short of absurd.
Another thing I like about SG-1 is that it can be funny within the context of the series. B5's attempts at humor were more often than not painfully hamfisted. I almost never felt I was watching a B5 character say something funny-- I felt like I was watching a B5 character deliver a line which JMS thought would be funny.
First of all, there was about 20 standalones total, half of them in the first season.
And I can think of (with slight help from lurkers):
Adira Tyree
The Alien Healing Device
Draal
The Soul Hunters
The Parliament of Dreams
The Technomages
The Streib
Lyta Alexander (duh)
The Underground Railroad of Telepaths
The Undergrond Railroad of Narns
and others.
As for the humor, yeah, it fell flat on face sometimes, sometimes it was hilarious ("Woohoo?"), sometimes it was intentionally stupid.
Kinda like life, no?
So, if that's all you can put up, then I'm not impressed.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Although as you see, it does get a little boring once he starts repeating himself.
Patience young Zylon. If I ever catch up with you, this lot will get all the entertainment they could want :nod:
Apologies for banging the final nail in to this thread's coffin, but hands up who wants to see me punch ZB in the mouth?
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I'll pass, DG. You're just feeding the troll.
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What about Ulysses 2031 and Battle of the Planets, they were cool! :nervous:
Flipside :D
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Fair enough Mik
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Originally posted by Flipside
What about Ulysses 2031 and Battle of the Planets, they were cool! :nervous:
Flipside :D
Ulysses 31 you mean?
If we go into animes, then, Vandread, it rocks :D
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Originally posted by Flipside
What about Ulysses 2031 and Battle of the Planets, they were cool! :nervous:
Flipside :D
Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors!
Oh and guess who was one of the the writers. Yep it was that man JMS again :)
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I suppose one of these days someone will clue mikhael in to what "troll" actually means.
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Stop it, all of you.
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Originally posted by karajorma
Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors!
Oh and guess who was one of the the writers. Yep it was that man JMS again :)
Too bad it was cancelled before there was a true ending made :(. Seems that JMS guy is cursed, in that regard...
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I don't think I've ever actually seen Final Ride at Journey's End which is a pity cause it really does sound like a final episode.
Apparently though there was a final episode written by JMS to be made into an animated feature but it never got made. He did say that he had the script around somewhere.
BTW is it just me or was Gillian basically a prototype of the Technomages from B5.
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(http://www.linkline.com/personal/enik1138/images/sleestak.jpg)
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Series: Stargate/Tremors (the series)
Movie: Star Wars (only the trillogy)/Tremors 3
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and your favourite game is Worms, I bet :D
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I suppose I should mention Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. (Not my favorite sci fi, but it should be mentioned anyway :p) It failed on numerous points (plot, some of the characters looked sloppy, plot, humour, plot, character development, did I say plot?) however it was very beautiful (for the most part).
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Am I the only one to like TSW plot? Not being a FF fan helps, I guess...
My only complain is that, indeed, character development was... forgotten.
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What, "Developing into a corpse" doesn't count?
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WING COMMANDER MOVIE!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
WING COMMANDER MOVIE!!!!!!!!!
:wtf:
eeeeeewwwwwww................
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Anyone remember that old show Sea Quest with the big submarine that kinda looked like a shark fish type thing I think.. and they had a talking dolphin named Darwin and one of the crew members had gill implants and he'd go and swim with Darwin in the water.. man, I remember watching that when I was younger.. but I don't remember much.... was it even any good or was I just a child fascinated by a talking dolphin? It probably sucked since it didn't seem to get many seasons... at least I only remember it getting a few. Someone jarr my memory! :)
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The first season of SeaQuest DSV I liked, but it turned into crap IMHO with the first episode of the second season. After watching two or three of those episodes, I decided my time would be better spent watching Babylon 5. (They were on at the same time on the same day where I live when both were first being aired)
As for the Wing Commander movie, on its own if it wasn't Wing Commander I think its a decent movie. But I was expecting to see Wing Commander, things like the original WC1 Tiger's Claw, Rapiers, etc. not the reinvented versions. Plus some of the added backstory such as the Pilgrims I disliked. The navigation AI portion of that backstory was interesting, and I felt did actually add to the WC universe for the timeperiod. Call me a purist but I wanted to see the classic WC1 designs.
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I liked the first series of Seaquest, but when they brought in the aliens, and the new crew, it just got weird, though some of the eps in the later series were pretty decent.
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Back to the Future
Two thumbs up! :yes: :yes:
Ok Well Matrix counts like Sci Fi. Of course with some more action.
Star Wars? Nah not really.
Oh and I never saw Babylon 5 or Star Trek or any of those. :p
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Neva' seen enough of B5.
That leaves SG, SW, ST, and Freespace. ;)
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
What, "Developing into a corpse" doesn't count?
Well, I was going to agree with Venom, but you raise a good point.
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Originally posted by Ace
The first season of SeaQuest DSV I liked, but it turned into crap IMHO with the first episode of the second season.
I thought it was pretty good until they introduced that damn talking dolphin wit da cuute widdle synthesized voice.
Oh wait, that was the very first episode. Carry on.
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Anyone saw Starship Orion? That was a trashy german 60's sci-fi series where all Stasrships looked like flying saucers. Nowadays, when you watch it, parts of it are so funny...it absolutely rules.:D
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Okay, who can name which show this is from?
(http://www.70slivekidvid.com/space/academy.jpg)
Note-- might be a trick question.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Okay, who can name which show this is from?
(http://www.70slivekidvid.com/space/academy.jpg)
Note-- might be a trick question.
Space Academy by any chance?
Note to self, when initiating pop quiz, make sure answers aren't attached to the question.
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:D
anyhow, ST:DS9 is pretty descent, but don't get me started on ent. SG, well, it's fun, but not really good. B5, it was never completely aired here, and always on inhuman times. S:AAB, great, a pity that it's only one season. Starshtip Troopers, well, the animated series was reasonable, but the movie was more fun IMHO.
and movies, well, ST: First Contact was pretty damn good, and Lost in Space is fun to watch too.
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Looks like Jason of Star Command to me, 01010. But that's only cuz they used the same sets.
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anyone remember Fireball XL5 ?
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Yes, usually when I wake at screaming at 3am ;)
That bloody robot! Worse than Lost in Space!
Flipside :D
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Originally posted by mikhael
Looks like Jason of Star Command to me, 01010. But that's only cuz they used the same sets.
Right. Jason of Star Command was a sort-of spinoff from Space Academy.
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Originally posted by mikhael
Looks like Jason of Star Command to me, 01010. But that's only cuz they used the same sets.
Don't ask me, I was feigning knowledge by visiting the site the image came from :)