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Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Sandwich on November 05, 2003, 06:03:44 am
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/04/1816227

Awesome.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Fineus on November 05, 2003, 06:06:29 am
Certainly! That's great news, it's about time there was some... they've been looking long enough...
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: karajorma on November 05, 2003, 06:55:19 am
Interesting. I suppose it was inevitable once they found out that a virus could cause cancer that they would find one that could cure them :)
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: TheCelestialOne on November 05, 2003, 07:12:41 am
WHOA! This is truly awesome!
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Flipside on November 05, 2003, 12:48:15 pm
It's great news, problem is we will probably all be about 70 years old before this treatment stops being available only to the ridiculously paid or famous. After all, as long as their are enough of us to pay for all the bombs, what does it matter who lives or dies?

Flipside.

Edit : Sorry, long day, but I have seen a few 'miracle' cures that have gone this way.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Razor on November 05, 2003, 05:35:51 pm
Oh My Good God! :eek:
If this is effective this is absolutely a scientific and medical breakthrough.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Flaser on November 05, 2003, 07:51:20 pm
IMHO I doubt they found a virus causes cancer alone, but since viruses create a DNA mutilation or inject their own twisted DNA/RNA the effects are almost the same as normal mutation that can be caused by a wide range of things (radiation for instance).

I think it is possible though that there is virus that kills mainly the faulty cells alone.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 05, 2003, 07:56:53 pm
Sweeeeeeet.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Knight Templar on November 05, 2003, 08:33:46 pm
how Ironic that cancer should be killed by a virus. Well.. I guess not really. But that still kicks ass.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Martinus on November 05, 2003, 08:42:48 pm
[color=66ff00]This is a great piece of news. :nod:

Anyone else noticed that the news has been generally quite interesting recently?
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Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Setekh on November 05, 2003, 09:10:03 pm
Indeed, that is very encouraging. :) Unfortunately, looks like no sign of effect on lung cancer... :sigh:
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Black Wolf on November 05, 2003, 09:40:18 pm
I've been saying for years that genetically modified viruses are the way to go to cure diseases - tis even better that they found a natural one.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Shrike on November 05, 2003, 09:51:20 pm
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Originally posted by Flipside
It's great news, problem is we will probably all be about 70 years old before this treatment stops being available only to the ridiculously paid or famous. After all, as long as their are enough of us to pay for all the bombs, what does it matter who lives or dies?

Flipside.

Edit : Sorry, long day, but I have seen a few 'miracle' cures that have gone this way.
Hm, I rather doubt it.  If it's just a simple retrovirus it should be easy to culture in large quantities.  After all, that's what a vaccine is, right?  Just an innocuous form of a dangerous virus.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: IceFire on November 05, 2003, 10:11:35 pm
Wow, fantastic stuff.  I've also read about documented cases going back as far as 1890's where a paitent with cancer was in a sense able to cure him/herself.  The cause of the healing?  The cold virus.  The cold virus the person got stirred up so much of the immune system that it infact also targeted the cancer cells killing them as well.

Fascinating stuff!
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: an0n on November 05, 2003, 10:18:48 pm
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Originally posted by Setekh
Indeed, that is very encouraging. :) Unfortunately, looks like no sign of effect on lung cancer... :sigh:

If they find out how it targets the cells, they'll have a metric ****-load of new cancer-poisons flooding the market sooner or later.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Setekh on November 05, 2003, 10:23:03 pm
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Originally posted by IceFire
Wow, fantastic stuff.  I've also read about documented cases going back as far as 1890's where a paitent with cancer was in a sense able to cure him/herself.  The cause of the healing?  The cold virus.  The cold virus the person got stirred up so much of the immune system that it infact also targeted the cancer cells killing them as well.


That is pretty fascinating. Unfortunately, the more likely result is that the cold will actually kill the person - since their immune system is so compromised, there's usually nothing left to call into action. By sheer virtue of hanging around the hospital so often these past couple of years, I know people who've been hit that way, and died. :o

Indeed, that's my hope, an0n.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: karajorma on November 06, 2003, 05:21:27 am
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Originally posted by Flaser
IMHO I doubt they found a virus causes cancer alone, but since viruses create a DNA mutilation or inject their own twisted DNA/RNA the effects are almost the same as normal mutation that can be caused by a wide range of things (radiation for instance).


Actually the human papillomavirus has been directly linked to cervical cancer (over 99% of all cases are from women who caught the virus). Although the virus doesn't directly cause the cancer it does trigger uncontrolled reproduction of cells. Under those conditions it's only a matter of time before one of the cells turns cancerous. Unlike radiation this is targetted on specific genes.

If you're interested here's a (very medical) link (http://www.reproline.jhu.edu/english/3cc/3refman/cxca_hpv1.htm).
 Fortunately HPV might be on the way out anyway since they've discovered a vaccine for it recently. If they can administer this to all women at a young age we might be able basically wipe out cervical cancer (which would make it the not first one we are able to cure but even better the first one we are able to prevent occuring in the first place!)
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Gloriano on November 06, 2003, 06:22:28 am
this is wonderful:)
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 06, 2003, 08:13:36 am
Hey this is great news!!!  But, one things goes away I'm sure something else will take it's place.
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: karajorma on November 06, 2003, 12:08:35 pm
Cancer isn't a disease so like scurvy or heart disease if we get rid of it there won't be an evolutionary niche left empty. (Unless you're saying that something would replace HPV in which case you're probably right but at least we'd get 10-100 years of peace :D )
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: SKYNET-011 on November 06, 2003, 07:03:43 pm
Sweet.

Now if there only was a cure for AIDS...
Title: Virus Kills Cancer Cells
Post by: Gortef on November 07, 2003, 02:26:40 am
Great news indeed :nod: