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Title: Car Modding
Post by: Max Sterling on November 08, 2003, 04:00:34 pm: Well, I started with MODding games when I was a kid, and then FS2.. and now I've modded... my CAR.

Here's a page with the list of performance MODs... and..

http://www.stephanos.net/steve/mustang/index.html

I've 'modded' the exterior as well :)

(http://www.stephanos.net/steve/mustang/dragonstang.gif)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: beatspete on November 08, 2003, 04:06:08 pm: I dont have a car to modify myself or anything, but i see a lot of cars that have been round where I live - you need better alloys.
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Post by: phreak on November 08, 2003, 04:22:08 pm: well its pretty nice. im a mustang fan myself. if it was a civic with only a tin can exhaust i'd have to kill you
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Post by: Taristin on November 08, 2003, 04:25:55 pm: How about an Integra with one? *Goes to take picture of his car*
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 08, 2003, 04:26:57 pm: I'll not say anything about it, I'd only be called a pedant.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 08, 2003, 05:50:46 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
How about an Integra with one? *Goes to take picture of his car*

what its 1/4 mile time? if its >16 seconds then you get beat :p
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Taristin on November 08, 2003, 05:51:50 pm: /me looks awayt
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Post by: phreak on November 08, 2003, 05:56:05 pm: My friend's '99 eclipse has a less pronounced tin can exhaust. i don't care since it runs like 13.7 at 100mph
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Post by: Taristin on November 08, 2003, 06:00:57 pm: I've never raced my car. I won't. I don't enjoy losing.

When I get a 3000Gt, then we'll talk. ;)
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Post by: phreak on November 08, 2003, 06:01:15 pm: good idea :D
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Post by: Taristin on November 08, 2003, 06:01:49 pm: That was quick. :)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 08, 2003, 06:11:34 pm: haha about time someone made a topic like this :lol: :D

Very nice work on the exterior of your Mustang... but post other pictures too! post some of the back, side, interior, etc.

i haven't personally done much "MODDING" work to my car... there's not really much you CAN do. the only "MODding" has been done to the system (OK, the system's completely aftermarket, as well as the head unit), and a bit on the suspension (inflatable rear air shocks...) other than that i haven't really done any exterior-visible work.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 08, 2003, 11:54:21 pm: nice m8, now put some neon on in ;P
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Odyssey on November 09, 2003, 07:27:41 am: It looks kind of like a big white blob with a nostril...
...see, this is why I plan not to own a car. No money wasted. Job done. I think a car that doesn't exist looks nicer than any car that does.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Martinus on November 09, 2003, 03:24:05 pm: [color=66ff00]How many cubic feet of air can it shift in one minute? :D
[/color]
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Odyssey on November 09, 2003, 03:42:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]How many cubic feet of air can it shift in one minute? :D[/color]

Enough to keep equally bored guys who mod computers instead of cars happy ^_^
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 09, 2003, 04:01:31 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Odyssey
It looks kind of like a big white blob with a nostril...
...see, this is why I plan not to own a car. No money wasted. Job done. I think a car that doesn't exist looks nicer than any car that does.

A man of sense!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Odyssey on November 09, 2003, 04:16:06 pm: Public transport is so misunderstood :p
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Post by: Taristin on November 09, 2003, 04:21:03 pm: (http://autobymax.com/inventory/1426/MVC-001S.JPG)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Odyssey on November 09, 2003, 04:37:38 pm: [color=cc9900]Argh! A different coloured blob! :S
Seriously, that thing is ugly.[/color]
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Taristin on November 09, 2003, 04:54:48 pm: You, sir, have no taste. :p
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 09, 2003, 06:49:31 pm: it's just because he doesn't have a car... if he had one he'd be taking the other side of the argument ;)
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Post by: Kamikaze on November 09, 2003, 06:57:52 pm: Sod cars, I wuv my country's bullet trains. :D If only I was over there. :p
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 10, 2003, 01:59:45 am: I see a debate on materialism on the horizon...
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 10, 2003, 11:02:03 am: ok stealth, here is your car:

(http://www.swooh.com/lorenzo/transam0002.JPG)

it looks like a nice firebird, even though the filename says transam. meh. any decent mods?
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 10, 2003, 11:13:57 am: Never thought I'd see this thread here. I love cars and have been racing/modding them for the last 10 years.

Right now I'm riding in a 2003 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE (picture below) that I got a few months ago. Has 245 horsies, and too much torque for the stock tires. Right now the only mod I have in it is a WAI (that's a warm air intake for those who don't know) w/ a wider intake midpipe and apexi racing filter. I am definitely going to continue modding my baby and hope to get it in the 13's in a few months.

Plans for the car, in order of what's next:

Greddy cat-back exhaust
lighter/smaller underdrive pulley
ECM flash (if they finally crack our computers)
racing slicks
headers
lighter flywheel
racepipe (if the headers don't include it, depends which I go for)

I may not get all of those, but I hope to get close. I know I won't be satisfied til I break into the 13's.

Here's my car:

(http://hyb.kicks-ass.net/images/DSCN0655.JPG)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 10, 2003, 11:20:05 am: ooh nice!

three questions:

1: engine displacement/configuration
2: manual or automatic
3: best 1/4 mile ET
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 10, 2003, 11:21:03 am: All the images I've seen are of ugly cars. Post something that looks good.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 10, 2003, 11:21:46 am: want me to post the pic of the espirit again? or will a DB-7 suit you?
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 10, 2003, 11:34:25 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
All the images I've seen are of ugly cars. Post something that looks good.

By your command...
(http://www.ragbone.net/shop/lledo/tv/va22003_trotter500_291.gif)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 10, 2003, 11:36:37 am: :ick that reminds me, i saw one of those new mini coopers around here. i really wished i had an RPG when i did. the guy would fare no better if he would have been hit by someone in a mid-sized sedan
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Post by: 01010 on November 10, 2003, 11:37:11 am: LIMITED EDITION
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Post by: Taristin on November 10, 2003, 12:30:44 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
All the images I've seen are of ugly cars. Post something that looks good.

Another with bad taste. Which do you prefer, then?

(http://www.mitsubishi-fto.org/steve/i/lg_gpx.jpg)

(http://www.dennigcars.com/exotics_for_sale/ex1024-1.jpg)

(http://www.rapidcars.com/images/monarotrack.jpg)

Any?
Or perhaps this is more your speed, being European and all...

(http://www.ford.co.uk/spg/images/SPG_3_28_0_1431.jpg)

Unless of course, you do prefer the limited edition Jalope there...
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Ashrak on November 10, 2003, 12:43:09 pm: ill take a SkyLine or an EVO 5 anyday :p
Title: Car Modding
Post by: kode on November 10, 2003, 01:01:20 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ashrak
ill take a SkyLine or an EVO 5 anyday :p

okay, you take the evo 5, I'll 'settle' with an evo 8.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 10, 2003, 01:24:04 pm: If you want something done, do it yourself.. ok.. to squash your impressions about my love of European cars - how do you like these apples?

(http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~knutfy/gts1-2.jpg)
That's Japanese or something, isnt it? ;)

(http://www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/firstdrive/2002/aston.martin.vanquish/02.astonmartin.vanquish.f34.500.jpg)
Aston Martin Vanquish. I want one.

(http://www.blackhawkcollection.com/image/cars/1961%20jaguar%20etype%20rdst%20f.jpg)
I want one of these as well. Jaguar E-Type. Great car (old, but look at it - it's a classic).

(http://home.swipnet.se/eurenius_design/elise.jpg)
It doesnt have to be big to be sporty. Lotus Elise - a nice little car they stick together with glue (no kidding).

And finally...
(http://home.planet.nl/~zuide111/fordfiesta.jpg)
Mine. (Well, one like mine - which is actually blue). It's small, slow and brilliant for a first time driver. Meh...
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Gloriano on November 10, 2003, 01:27:15 pm: This one is(http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~knutfy/gts1-2.jpg)
Dodge Viper

summer in LA i drived Viper
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 10, 2003, 01:27:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
(http://home.swipnet.se/eurenius_design/elise.jpg)
It doesnt have to be big to be sporty. Lotus Elise - a nice little car they stick together with glue (no kidding).

HELL YEA

and the first pic of yours is a Viper
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Post by: Fineus on November 10, 2003, 01:31:44 pm: I know it is, I was making a joke/stab at the big American muscle cars on the rest of the thread :)

Oh, should mention, dad owned one of these...

(http://www.dial60.freeserve.co.uk/dsc00006.jpg)
Really nice car... reached 150mph on more than one occasion... smooth as hell to drive. Shame we sold it!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 10, 2003, 01:36:33 pm: here's a car that may beat a viper in races

(http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/02images/gt-40_2.jpg)

i so want one. they're like 150 grand and available in 2005 IIRC
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Post by: J3Vr6 on November 10, 2003, 01:39:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by PhReAk
ooh nice!

three questions:

1: engine displacement/configuration
2: manual or automatic
3: best 1/4 mile ET

My Nissan Altima is, of course, 5 speed :D It's a 3.5 liter, 6 cylinder V block slanted at 60 degrees, dual overhead cams, with 245 horses with a displacement of 213.45 cubic inches. Small engine, I know, but it's pushing 246 pounds of torque at 4,400 rpm's.

Front wheel drive with thin, stock performance tires means this car basically sits there if I floor it. That's the one thing I don't appreciate, cuz even when I want to cross a street or make a quick turn between traffic I spin for a split second. But that will change if I get pseudo-slicks (they're basically racing slicks w/ a little bit of tread).

The WAI I installed adds about 7-10 horsies. I haven't dyno'ed the car yet to know what the power is at the wheels, but I hope to do that soon. Haven't taken this car to the track, either. From what I've seen, it does about 14.3 to 14.5 in the 1/4, stock. I've been planning a trip to the track for some time now, but it's just a mission to go (it's over an hour and a half drive). Some have gotten it into the 13's already after modding, and I plan on being one of them.
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Post by: Odyssey on November 10, 2003, 01:51:04 pm: [color=cc9900]I remember the days when one horse was enough for anyone... Or a donkey...[/color]
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Post by: Kamikaze on November 10, 2003, 01:55:33 pm: Hehe, pictures!

SLK Roadster
(http://www.mercedes-benz.com/com/e/home/products/passengercars/slkclass/images/11410.jpg)

TVR Griffith 500
(http://hem.passagen.se/realcars/fakta/img/tvr/griffith.jpg)
(http://www.algonet.se/~andiloor/tvr03.jpg)

Ruf CTR2
(http://www.911turbo.com/turboclub/images/993_CTR2.jpg)

Tommy Kaira Z
(http://www.tommykaira.com/z/photo/photo04.jpg)
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Post by: 01010 on November 10, 2003, 03:52:35 pm: I like TVR's, handmade in Blackpool of all places, there's a Cerbera round my way and it's a beauty.
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Post by: Taristin on November 10, 2003, 04:01:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth

That's Japanese or something, isnt it? ;)
Viper. Not bad, but it's a testament to overdoing things...
Aston Martin Vanquish. I want one.
Overpriced Ford
I want one of these as well. Jaguar E-Type. Great car (old, but look at it - it's a classic).
Another Overpriced Ford
It doesnt have to be big to be sporty. Lotus Elise - a nice little car they stick together with glue (no kidding).
Meh.
And finally...

Mine. (Well, one like mine - which is actually blue). It's small, slow and brilliant for a first time driver. Meh...
:Ha: hehe

And that viper may have Jap parts. Chrysler owns Dodge. They also merged with Mercedes, and have controlling interest in Mitsubishi, so...
Title: Car Modding
Post by: 01010 on November 10, 2003, 04:06:40 pm: You call the E-Type Jaguar an overpriced ford and expect people to take your opinion on cars seriously? The car is a CLASSIC.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 10, 2003, 04:11:46 pm: I'm reading this thread with a smirk on my face, and shaking my head in pity.
Just so you know.
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Post by: Odyssey on November 10, 2003, 04:15:09 pm: [color=cc9900]I saw a site once that illustrated how much you'd save if you never owned a car. It was a bloody lot. And the car in question was economical, unlike most of those petrol-guzzlers above.[/color]
Title: Car Modding
Post by: 01010 on November 10, 2003, 04:15:26 pm: I don't even like cars all that much but to deny the E-Type it's classic status is just immoral. Heads will roll mark my words.

::Grabs a grapefruit and a large rolling pin::

Oh yes.
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Post by: Martinus on November 10, 2003, 04:20:08 pm: [color=66ff00]0 to 600 in 0.53 seconds:
(http://3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/rocketcar.jpg)
[/color]
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 10, 2003, 04:27:22 pm: I take it those wheels are fixed? Lets face it, it's not as if it needs them. :D
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Post by: Taristin on November 10, 2003, 04:28:38 pm: Quote
Originally posted by 01010
You call the E-Type Jaguar an overpriced ford and expect people to take your opinion on cars seriously? The car is a CLASSIC.

Meh. I don't really care for Jaguar. It may be a classic, I don't actually know much about the Jaguar lineup, save for the XKR. And even then, my knowledge is limited.

I don't actually care if you 'take me seriously.'

This thread isn't going to change my feelings towards any of you, or my tastes in cars.

And why should you take me seriously? I'd prefer to have a 3000Gt VR-4 (Or the Japanese MR version) over any vehicle on the market (except perhaps an FTO GP Version R, not available in America). I'd say my opinion is very biased.
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Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 10, 2003, 04:41:57 pm: I knew it. It's turning into one of those primary-school our-car's-bigger-than-your-car-therefore-we're-better.-Don't-insult-my-car-or-my-big-brother-who-by-the-way-is-bigger-than-your-brother-will-come-and-beat-you-up things.
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Post by: Flipside on November 10, 2003, 04:42:53 pm: (http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/images/Car.jpg)

Ph34r the Carmageddon!

Sorry guys, I just had to introduce my personal favourite car :) Please...continue :)

Flipside :D
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 10, 2003, 04:48:58 pm: If it was available in the US, i'm sure Raa would be all over a Skyline
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Post by: Odyssey on November 10, 2003, 04:50:18 pm: [color=cc9900]Hmm... Try this:
(http://greenspeed.com.au/GTR-E%20(Claret-DG)%20768.JPG)
Purdy![/color]
Title: Car Modding
Post by: kode on November 10, 2003, 04:57:48 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside

Ph34r the Carmageddon!

Sorry guys, I just had to introduce my personal favourite car :) Please...continue :)

Flipside :D

oh great! someone posts a pic from the game I am now playing again through for the umptenth time. I actually think I've played it more than the freespaces.

and the hawk is actually better at landing on the wheels...
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 10, 2003, 05:11:35 pm: Raa Tor'h, I think you ought to know that Jaguar used to be a purely British car firm (I believe). So did Aston Martine (why do you think they showed up in almost all the Bond films?).

Either way, take the car for what it is - not who made it - especially if you don't actually know who made it ;)

Petrarch, what were you expecting? I'm just saying which cars I like - as for everyone else... well I hesitate to comment!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 10, 2003, 05:40:31 pm: one of meh m8s ownz 1 of these
(http://srm.net/pixz/images/7/7205_7a89c.jpg)
he races with it...

EDIT: thats a honda prelude.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: 01010 on November 10, 2003, 05:50:25 pm: (http://www.southparkstudios.com/down/download.html?file=/media/images/511/image_07.gif)

The IT.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 10, 2003, 07:19:48 pm: Vipers aren't the fastest car there is you know :doubt:
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Post by: Fineus on November 10, 2003, 07:29:35 pm: Who cares? Neither are E-Types or Lotus Elises... but they all still have their place.

But if you want a pissing contest on speed - well - I win.

(http://www.billzilla.org/thrustssc.jpg)

(http://www.automotive-technology.com/projects/thrust_ssc/images/img1.jpg)

I give you Thrust SSC. The fastest land vehicle in creation. Topping well over Mach 1 and beating its nearest rival without breaking a sweat. And you know what's really amusing? It's British - and I helped to build it.

So, how do you like them apples? :D
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 10, 2003, 08:07:39 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
So, how do you like them apples? :D

dude, that aint go no apples. ;)

This here, has got some apples
(http://www.ferrari.com/ferrari/images/360_spider/780x490/photo_threequarterfrontred.jpg) :D

EDIT: thats a Ferrari 360 Spider... dam schweet
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 10, 2003, 09:04:24 pm: you want fast Kalfireth?

(http://www.wvi.com/~lelandh/sr_launch51.JPG)

and that's not even close to being one of the fastest planes ;)

beat that ***** :D

Anyway but back to cars... there's no such thing as the "fastest car"... all cars have different aspects and different potentials... if i could have any "realistic" (i.e. not something like an Aston martin, lamborghini, etc.) i'd take a Skyline. that has got to be one of the coolest cars on the market at the moment. i mean, it's got like 6 computers, four wheel drive and steering, it's incredible :)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 11, 2003, 12:31:59 am: damn EPA
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Post by: Gortef on November 11, 2003, 03:44:55 am: At first I read "Carl Modding"

nice pics this topic has. And nice car mods too.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 11, 2003, 05:50:28 am: It's just a pity Stealth doesnt know what a "car" is, and thinks that a plane will do fine.

Oh well, anyway want to try and teach him? ;)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Gloriano on November 11, 2003, 05:54:29 am: *looks his 2 beatyful cars*;)
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Post by: J3Vr6 on November 11, 2003, 09:01:00 am: lol... Viper may not be the fastest in the world, but it definitely is in the top 10, if not the top 5. And I guarantee, of all the production cars out there, it's the one that you are more likely to poop your pants in :)

I can hardly stand Ferrari anymore. I don't know why, but their cars just don't do it for me. Lamborgini, yes. Maclaren, definitely.

The cars I've wanted but never got:

(http://www.mkiv.com/mkiv_gallery/mkiv_gallery/exterior/large/cone80fr.jpg)
Toyota Supra twin turbo (my absolute favorite)
(http://www.rx7heaven.com/images/012302.jpg)
Mazda RX-7
(http://www.goldcoastcruisers.org/Assets/Memcars/BMasterson/full.jpg)
Gran National (once the fastest production car in the market)

BTW, Drew, the Prelude is nice (not the new body style, but the one in the pic) and it can potentially be quick if you do some real work to it. I had a friend when I was into car clubs that had a prelude that ran 13.12's in the quarter mile. He had a v-tech controller (that allows u to dial in where you want v-tech to kick in, if u know what v-tech is), full exhaust, some minor engine work, and a big ass turbo. Don't remember how many pounds he was pushing from the turbo, though. Thing was fast as hell, I loved watching it run at the track.

And I give Raa Thor'h some credit, the 3000 GT VR-4 was a beautiful and well made race car.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: magatsu1 on November 11, 2003, 12:34:17 pm: V-tech: variable valve, erm, somethin' (timing?) , and electronic control (i think)

Quote
Quote
..WAI(that's a warm air intake for those who don't know....

shouldn't that be "cold air intake" ?

my first car was a mk2, 1300 Golf with BMW wheels !!
wouldn't mind a 1600 zetec Focus now though.

I've got some video of that new Lambo. goin' past a Vanquish with the driver givin' the engine a real pastin'.
Sounded f*****g incredible !!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 11, 2003, 02:15:47 pm: Quote
Originally posted by magatsu1
shouldn't that be "cold air intake" ?

No, a cold air intake is a slightly different animal. A cold air intake, like the one most ricers use (hondas, acuras, etc like to use Injen or Iceman), is actually a metallic pipe that goes from the throttle body down underneath the engine and places the air filter infront of one of the front tires, behind the bumper. Look at this pic for the CAI:
(http://www.stillen.com/product_images/402870_f.jpg)

The science behind it is basically that colder air circulates close to the ground, so by placing the air filter that low on the car (basically a few inches from the ground), you're allowing the air to breath the colder air. Colder air is better for the car, performance wise.

A Warm Air Intake is basically a short midpipe from the throttle body to an air filter, still situated in the engine bay. It doesn't scoop up any cold air from the bottom of the car. It's not really warm air that it sucks in, though, cuz at wide open throttle enough air is getting pushed through the front grill that the temp is nominal. See this pic of a WAI:
(http://www.jay-man.net/altimas.net/members/pvick/altyengine.jpg)

So why get a WAI when theoritically a CAI seems better? Well, having a longer pipe in the CAI means that the car takes longer to breath that colder air thereby nullifying whatever gain you'd get in the cold air. You'll never get a definitive answer on this one, though, it's mostly user preference if u want a WAI or a CAI (in this respect).

Second, with a CAI you have a chance of completely ruining your engine if you accidentally drive your car thru a heavy puddle. Having the filter so close to the ground means you have a chance of sucking up that water. If you car sucks up water, you hydrolock the engine and pray you have enough money for a new one (or find a junked one). Many people don't worry about this, though, as where they live they don't suffer from flooding or think they're invincible (read: 16 year olds with daddy's money).

They sell a bypass valve that you cut into the CAI intake pipe where if the air filter gets completely submerged, the valve will open and would stop the water from getting to the throttle body.

Where I live and where my girlfriend lives there's too much flooding when it rains. I don't trust that bypass valve (although people swear by it), so I decided to get the WAI.

Anyway, this was probably too much information :D

Btw, if you want to see some nice racing videos, look at this link. There's some really nice races, from lamborgini's to hondas.

http://northwestnissans.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11232
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Taristin on November 11, 2003, 04:24:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by PhReAk
If it was available in the US, i'm sure Raa would be all over a Skyline

Um... no. I don't like it. I'm not one who goes crazy for power. I just have a Mitsubishi fettish. I wanted an Eagle Talon for the longest time, also.

Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
Raa Tor'h, I think you ought to know that Jaguar used to be a purely British car firm (I believe). So did Aston Martine (why do you think they showed up in almost all the Bond films?).

Either way, take the car for what it is - not who made it - especially if you don't actually know who made it ;)

I do know that. But like I said, I never cared for Jaguar. It's personal preference, I don't understand why me voicing my opinion is taken so harshly by all of you. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

Aston Martins were never big in America, or atleast not anywhere I've seen anyway. So I don't know anything about them, except what they show in GranTurismo, and even then, the cars are still biased by the programmers views of them.

Now I never said they weren't good or nice-looking cars (As you did to the ones we posted), just that I don't like them, and wouldn't buy anything Ford has produced. (Or GM for that matter, except for the Pontiac lineup (GTO, Trans-am/Firebird), which I have a soft-spot for...)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 11, 2003, 04:31:31 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
It's just a pity Stealth doesnt know what a "car" is, and thinks that a plane will do fine.

Oh well, anyway want to try and teach him? ;)

excuse me sir, but you're the one that posted a picture of some jet-engined experiment. if you consider that a 'car', then in that case anything with wheels is considered a car... which is why i posted a picture of a blackbird... ON THE GROUND, with WHEELS :rolleyes:
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Zeronet on November 11, 2003, 04:34:51 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth

excuse me sir, but you're the one that posted a picture of some jet-engined experiment. if you consider that a 'car', then in that case anything with wheels is considered a car... which is why i posted a picture of a blackbird... ON THE GROUND, with WHEELS :rolleyes:

Actually, the blackbirds primary form of propulsion is through the air, while the jet car is land, its a car, just face it. Your just being silly and making yourselve look foolish.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 11, 2003, 04:37:40 pm: Quote
Actually, the blackbirds primary form of propulsion is through the air, while the jet car is land, its a car, just face it. Your just being silly and making yourselve look foolish.

If the "jet car" on land is a car, then in that case so is a go-kart, a tricycle, a scooter, rollerblades, and multiple other wheeled ground transportation :rolleyes:

A one-of-a-kind, jet engine car that can go 4 miles without running out of gas, made for short, bursts of speed, is obviously not the kind of car we're talking about... so that's why i posted a picture of a blackbird... just to humor Thunder. I'm making ajoke. figures you'd have to take it seriously, being a car expert and all

EDIT: IN that case, if you want to compete, try beating a Kawasaki Ninja (it's a motorbike, but hey, it's got wheels, so it must be a car, right!!!???)... 0 - 60 mph in under 2.5 seconds.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 11, 2003, 04:37:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
Aston Martins were never big in America, or atleast not anywhere I've seen anyway. So I don't know anything about them, except what they show in GranTurismo, and even then, the cars are still biased by the programmers views of them.

I live in the downtown area of the city where I work (Coral Gables) and you see at least 2 or 3 Aston Martin's a day. There's a guy who has the Vanquish parked daily right across my apartment window when he goes to the gym. It's a beautiful car, but it's not for me. For some reason that car doesn't push my "I WANT I WANT I WANT" button. I still gawk at it, though :)

In this city, you also see 2 or 3 Viper's a day (man I love them). Gotta love Miami :D

Quote
Originally posted by Raa
Now I never said they weren't good or nice-looking cars (As you did to the ones we posted), just that I don't like them, and wouldn't buy anything Ford has produced. (Or GM for that matter, except for the Pontiac lineup (GTO, Trans-am/Firebird), which I have a soft-spot for...) [/B]

I honestly think they fubared the new GTO. It's extremely underpowered and looks... well, plain. When I heard they were gonna re-release this car I almost jumped for joy cuz I loved the classic. Was actually thinking of waiting to get one before the Altima. But when I finally saw it and reviewed it, I wasn't impressed.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 11, 2003, 04:41:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Actually, the blackbirds primary form of propulsion is through the air, while the jet car is land, its a car, just face it. Your just being silly and making yourselve look foolish.

If you go to that website I linked that had all the racing videos, there's one of a Formula 1 race car racing against a fighter jet at take-off w/ full afterburners. Can't remember which video it was. Formula 1 was the winner.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 11, 2003, 04:50:55 pm: Formula 1 race car, eh? LOL we're getting pretty hard-core now, aren't we ;)

OK so perhaps Thunder's car counts now, but it didn't count when we were still talking about produced cars
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Martinus on November 11, 2003, 04:58:53 pm: [color=66ff00]1up-manship is funny as long as you don't take it personally.
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Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 11, 2003, 05:11:35 pm: (http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/halopc/hpc_screenshot06.jpg)
bah u aint got nothin on this beast ;7
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 11, 2003, 05:14:08 pm: i'll see your puma and raise you a hummer

(http://casusbelli.iespana.es/casusbelli/mm/humvee-sam.jpg)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Taristin on November 11, 2003, 05:14:10 pm: Quote
Originally posted by J3Vr6

I live in the downtown area of the city where I work (Coral Gables) and you see at least 2 or 3 Aston Martin's a day.

In this city, you also see 2 or 3 Viper's a day (man I love them). Gotta love Miami :D

I honestly think they fubared the new GTO. But when I finally saw it and reviewed it, I wasn't impressed.

I've not seen an Aston Martin on the road. There is a dealership in Nyack, but they have nothing but BMW's in the display window, and I'm not about to walk inside.

There was a mercialleago on the road near my house though, damn rich NYers...

And Vipers don't impress me. When I lived in Florida, I saw one almost every other day. I know I sound repetetive, but the only car that makes me excited is the 1999 3000Gt. If it were VR-4, it's be AWD, AWS, and have Active Aerodynamics, which is sweet, cuz the rear wing will shift postition at 55Mph. :D

Again, this is just me.

Also, I agree the GTO isn't sporty looking, but I like it, for one reason or another. But then again, I like things noone else here does...*looks away*
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 11, 2003, 05:37:40 pm: Quote
Originally posted by PhReAk
i'll see your puma and raise you a hummer

http://casusbelli.iespana.es/casusbelli/mm/humvee-sam.jpg

bahh
(http://www.univer.omsk.su/students/lachin/challeng.jpg)
:D
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Zeronet on November 11, 2003, 05:55:55 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth

If the "jet car" on land is a car, then in that case so is a go-kart, a tricycle, a scooter, rollerblades, and multiple other wheeled ground transportation :rolleyes:

A one-of-a-kind, jet engine car that can go 4 miles without running out of gas, made for short, bursts of speed, is obviously not the kind of car we're talking about... so that's why i posted a picture of a blackbird... just to humor Thunder. I'm making ajoke. figures you'd have to take it seriously, being a car expert and all

EDIT: IN that case, if you want to compete, try beating a Kawasaki Ninja (it's a motorbike, but hey, it's got wheels, so it must be a car, right!!!???)... 0 - 60 mph in under 2.5 seconds.

By being pedantic, you are only increasing the likely hood of being mocked for your foolishness. Really, i can see why people flame you now.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 11, 2003, 06:46:27 pm: Ok ok, calm down please guys - my posting Thrust SSC was generally meant as a joke since everyone was going through the whole "my car is faster than yours" shinnanigans. Hard to beat the fastest land vehicle in the world. Hence me posting it.

Anyhow, enough... lets get back to whatever the point of the thread is (tanks apparently at the moment... not sure how that happened!)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: phreak on November 11, 2003, 07:01:42 pm: drew posted the puma from Halo.

*waits for sandwich to post a merkava*
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 11, 2003, 07:04:24 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Kalfireth
Ok ok, calm down please guys - my posting Thrust SSC was generally meant as a joke since everyone was going through the whole "my car is faster than yours" shinnanigans. Hard to beat the fastest land vehicle in the world. Hence me posting it.

Anyhow, enough... lets get back to whatever the point of the thread is (tanks apparently at the moment... not sure how that happened!)

LOL Thunder, i was just kidding. you think i was serious when i posted the blackbird? :D ;) :) It's just annoyances like zeronet that have to poke their noses in.

Oh and zeronet, quit being a dumass. the only people that flame me are Stryke, an0n, and Knight_Templar, and you know that i don't care what any of them say.

"pedantic"? damn man, use some proper English. what do you think we are here, professors? :D ;)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Flipside on November 11, 2003, 07:13:28 pm: (http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/images/Spaceballs.jpg)

Stand by for..... Ludicrous Speed!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 11, 2003, 07:37:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside

Stand by for..... Ludicrous Speed!

but does it have NOS :D
Title: Car Modding
Post by: StratComm on November 11, 2003, 08:57:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Flipside
Stand by for..... Ludicrous Speed!

:lol:

"I order you to stop this ship at once!!!"

"But Sir, it's too dangerous! We have to slow down first!"

That movie cracks me up every time.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 11, 2003, 11:03:05 pm: hehe mel brookes is a comedic genius :)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on November 12, 2003, 01:41:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by Drew

(http://www.univer.omsk.su/students/lachin/challeng.jpg)
:D

Is it me or is there a lens in the end of that gun? That's no tank! It's a press photographer mobile!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Gortef on November 12, 2003, 03:58:04 am: (http://www.tncar.com.tw/coolshow/show-room/bettle/1/kupla2-1-j.jpg)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: TheCelestialOne on November 12, 2003, 04:11:29 am: Quote
Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB

Is it me or is there a lens in the end of that gun? That's no tank! It's a press photographer mobile!

Ah, Now I see why they shot that cameraman in Iraq :p
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 12, 2003, 08:36:02 am: ...

Lol, I mentioned the video w/ the jet fighter to kinda defend Stealth's posting of the Blackbird, but that didn't quite work out :)

Oh, and CelestialOne, that's not a camera in the tank barrel. That's really a soap bubble. Tanks today blow soap bubbles at their targets!

There's a car dealership up the street from where I live called The Collection (http://www.thecollection.com/) that's is like one city block big. It's completely enclosed by a glass window, but behind that window is the most beautiful collection of cars I've ever seen. One on side, they have all the Ferrari's parked just glinting in the gallery. On the other side they have Porches, and between them they have the Aston Martin's. You keep on walking down the sidewalk and your greeted with the most beautiful collection of Lotus'. The place just continues on. Everytime I have to drive by there I always slow down to look at the gallery (cuz that's what it basically looks like, an art gallery).

Look at the website and you'll see they have every single exotic car possible. And supposedly, if they don't have it they will order it for you.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Gloriano on November 12, 2003, 09:00:04 am: (http://www.thecollection.com/gifs/new/jaguar/s-type/l_top.jpg)

they even got car i have let's see if they got my another one ....nope there is not my another one;)

this one i gonna buy some day if i can(http://www.thecollection.com/gifs/CayenneTurbo.jpg)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 12, 2003, 09:19:15 am: One of the owners of the company I work for bought that Porsche SUV. He had to order it and it hasn't been delivered yet. I don't like Porsche too much, not a big fan of them, but I wanna see that car from the inside.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 12, 2003, 11:16:18 am: Quote
Originally posted by PhReAk
If it was available in the US, i'm sure Raa would be all over a Skyline

yeah but a Skyline's not really "available" in the US... ;) both of them aren't :D

EDIT: hey J3vr6, could you tell me what movie clip on that site you linked to has the F1 car racing a fighter?
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Ace on November 12, 2003, 11:28:59 am: Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
(http://autobymax.com/inventory/1426/MVC-001S.JPG)

Does anyone else see the irony in this picture?

An American flag in the background and a Mitsubishi in the foreground?

Honestly, anyone else? :lol: (Don't mind me, just being irreverent today...)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Taristin on November 12, 2003, 12:58:23 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ace

Does anyone else see the irony in this picture?

An American flag in the background and a Mitsubishi in the foreground?

Honestly, anyone else? :lol: (Don't mind me, just being irreverent today...)

You mean how Mitsubishi prodused the 'Zeros' that attacked Pearl Harbor? I knew that, but that's in the past.

There's also the Flag of Texas there too.

Quote
Originally posted by Stealth

yeah but a Skyline's not really "available" in the US... ;) both of them aren't :D

I read, Nissan is interested in selling the skyline in america, but possibly under the Infiniti name badge... Not that I care, I want an FTO. :p
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Gloriano on November 12, 2003, 01:07:28 pm: Quote
Originally posted by J3Vr6
One of the owners of the company I work for bought that Porsche SUV. He had to order it and it hasn't been delivered yet. I don't like Porsche too much, not a big fan of them, but I wanna see that car from the inside.

i am gonna order that car before january

i
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 12, 2003, 03:03:36 pm: Sorry, Stealth, I don't remember which video it was. It's at the tail end of a compilation video. I'm at work so I can't really check to see right now :(
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Zeronet on November 12, 2003, 03:19:59 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth

Oh and zeronet, quit being a dumass. the only people that flame me are Stryke, an0n, and Knight_Templar, and you know that i don't care what any of them say.

"pedantic"? damn man, use some proper English. what do you think we are here, professors? :D ;)

It clearly seems the complexity of my language has you baffled, one might question whether you have the right to call me a "dumass", a word which I cannot recall even existing in slang form. I shall however, respond in a mature way to your ill conceived post.

(http://www.volitionwatch.com/vwbb/images/smilies/booty.gif)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 12, 2003, 05:20:35 pm: OK Zeronet, whatever. :rolleyes:
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Zeronet on November 12, 2003, 05:22:35 pm: I'll consider the matter dropped now then :).
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 12, 2003, 05:57:23 pm: yeah. i don't hold grudges :D

and i do stupid things too believe it or not ;)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 12, 2003, 06:01:31 pm: Stop it you two, or I lock the thread and move you both onto "last chance" status (if you already are... well you know what that means).

Now, back to cars... yes?
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Zeronet on November 12, 2003, 06:22:18 pm: We've already resolved the matter between ourselves Thunder, there's no reason for threats.

On the subject of cars however, i found this gem.

(http://www.mssociety.ca/manitoba/images/big%20red%20car%20-%20big.jpg)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 12, 2003, 06:23:44 pm: Dude, Thunder...

it was over. i had apologized to Zeronet, and we were through. i had just said that "i don't hold grudges" and that "i can make mistakes too".

geeeez :rolleyes:
;) :D :)

EDIT: w00000h00000. nice car there!!!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 12, 2003, 06:30:50 pm: K. Cool. Thx. Bye. :)

And yeah, very smart - classic looking!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 13, 2003, 08:17:20 am: That car is tight. Well-kept classics will always win my vote.

Quick question, would you get a classic PT cruiser or the new one? I would get a classic one in a heart-beat. The new one looks cheap and made poorly. Plus it's slow as hell.

Alright, I'll show you the car that made me cream since I was little:

(http://www.collectorcar.com/69-corvette-stingray.jpg)

And it's father's version:

(http://hem.spray.se/anjen/Bs02/corvette_stingray.jpg)

I don't know if any of you were old enough to remember, but there was this old tv program called Stingray. The main character had the fattest corvette I had ever seen. I think I only watched that show for the car.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 13, 2003, 11:57:28 am: corvets are badass, beutiful, peices of junk.......
Title: Car Modding
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 13, 2003, 01:46:44 pm: Heh, I remember when I had my Volkswagen Jetta I had fixed it mad. Was running 14.8 in the quarter mile. One time at a light a yellow stingray pulled up next to me. Thing was GLUG GLUG GLUGGING so pretty. The light changed and we started racing. That thing blew me away. Not by just a car length or two, either.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: magatsu1 on November 13, 2003, 03:00:32 pm: hmmmm, late 60s muscle. How can a car with a seven litre, v8 be anything less than incredilbe ?

Does anyone else think Porsche has sold out by making an SUV ?
The Boxster was made to be profitable, but at least it didn't detract from the core values that Porsche has spent the past 50 years developing. Hell, even the 924 was more "Porsche" than that thing. I'd get a VW Toe-rag instead.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 13, 2003, 05:11:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by magatsu1
Does anyone else think Porsche has sold out by making an SUV ?

id only be disapointed if Ferrari made an SVU... Unless you could get it down to 10 second quarter mile :p :D ;7:rolleyes:
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 13, 2003, 09:51:53 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Drew
corvets are badass, beutiful, peices of junk.......

i love corvettes... old and new. my friend's restoring (OK, well he's financing, i'm doing most of the work :p ... i'm in the process (very slow, whenever i have time) of rebuilding the engine, it's lying in pieces in his garage) a 69 stingray. it's a beautiful car... late 60s stingrays were very curvy, i love them... and fast too... very fast :D

about 2 weeks ago me and my friend were driving in a local movie theater looking for a parking spot when i spotted the infamous back end of a newer corvette (the flat four lights in the back ;) )... but i recognized it instantly that they were different. within like 2 seconds i was like "pull over, there's a 2004 corvette over there". i studied it a little more, and apparently the back windshield is a lot different from the other corvettes... more pointy, and longer. in fact the whole back end is bigger. and you gotta love those headlights :nod: :D ;) :)... wow. they even have FANS in them... to stop condensation i'm guessing. i was thinking, it would make sense now with the whole 2004 corvette design, because with the back bigger and the way the back windshield is, and the headlights, i think they were going for as aerodynamic as possible, and they get flying colors for that... it looks badass :yes:
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Stealth on November 13, 2003, 10:02:04 pm: although one of my favorite cars of all time is the 1959 Cadillac... it's a beautiful car, gotta love it. typical late 50s "simple" engine, but enormous... extremely big car, massive fins... you either love it or hate it... i love it.
(http://i10.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/e2/1f/9c_1.JPG)
(http://i17.ebayimg.com/02/i/00/e1/e7/4d_1.JPG)
(http://i20.ebayimg.com/01/i/00/e2/4c/30_1.JPG)

my dad and i recently bought (for $1700) a 59 coupe, sitting up in North Carolina. it's been sitting in a field for 5+ years, exposed to the elements, obviously with flat tires, etc... but the body is in semi-good condition still. my dad used to restore 59 and 60 cadillacs for a hobby back in the day, so me and him are going to drive up there in the next few weeks, and try to get it running. if we can, i'll drive it back... if we can't, we'll put it on the trailer and bring it back down.

although i think if i change the fluids, plugs, check distributor, timing, ignition, put a new battery in, pour a little gas in the carburetor, i'm sure she'll start right up. hopefully. i'm thinking 20 minutes to get her running... hopefully :p but i'll let you know how it works.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 13, 2003, 11:05:54 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth

i love corvettes... *snip*

(http://www.kerbeck.com/wallpaper/1024/Wall_1024_05.jpg)
(http://chevrolet.jbcarpages.com/Corvette/2002/Bilder/2002%20Corvette%20Blue%20front%20left.jpg)
;7 *horneh*
yup, shes a beauty
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Black Wolf on November 13, 2003, 11:44:33 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stealth
you want fast Kalfireth?

(http://www.wvi.com/~lelandh/sr_launch51.JPG)

and that's not even close to being one of the fastest planes ;)

You think that's fast?

You've quite obviously never been in one of these

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/space-shuttle-landing1.jpg)

Anyway, I don't want a car. I want one of these.

(http://www.moller.com/skycar/m400/m400.jpg) (http://www.moller.com/skycar/m400/m400-flag.jpg)

The Moller M400 Skycar. 0wnt :D

http://www.moller.com/skycar/
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 14, 2003, 12:37:37 am: do you have any idea how LOUD that skycar is? thats like worse than a group of preetens screamin at an eminem concert...

but not quite as bad as a drunk an0n :nervous:

*runz*
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Black Wolf on November 14, 2003, 02:07:19 am: I'm not really that fussed about noise. It's a flying car - the ultimate aim of all human trechnological advancement over the past fifty years (well, almost). I want.
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Gloriano on November 14, 2003, 04:43:14 am: (http://www1.faa.gov/ats/afss/newyork/aurora.gif)

Aurora

i would want this;)
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 14, 2003, 05:06:02 am: Sod it...

(http://www.airventure.de/historypics/XB70_ECN-792.jpg)
XB70, I choose you!
Title: Car Modding
Post by: TheCelestialOne on November 14, 2003, 05:08:46 am: Ow, that thing is ugly...
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Fineus on November 14, 2003, 05:56:42 am: Fast though :nod:
Title: Car Modding
Post by: beatspete on November 14, 2003, 06:36:17 am: Mach 3.2

Execpt one of the two they ever built got pwned by its escort aircraft :p

linkage
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 14, 2003, 02:35:00 pm: Quote
Lockheed/NASA F-104N, flown by NASA chief test pilot Joseph Walker, was sucked into the jet vortex of the giant XB-70. The F-104N flipped over onto the top of the massive bomber, clipped off the bombers left tail section and turned into the massive fireball pictured here.

that sucks.......
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Taristin on November 14, 2003, 04:51:21 pm: MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI MITSUBISHI
:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Drew on November 14, 2003, 11:10:52 pm: ...

:wtf:
Title: Car Modding
Post by: Odyssey on November 15, 2003, 03:09:36 am: [color=cc9900]Drew, you like your large spaces of blackness, don't you? At least put a large WTF smily in them... :p[/color]