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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Baron MacDoblin on November 20, 2003, 12:53:03 am

Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 20, 2003, 12:53:03 am
VERY rough sketch (that's why it's a WIP) of the Space Battleship Warspite. The purple thingies are mounts for where the turret will go eventually.  I'm hoping to make the superstructure not suck eventually.

(http://bobmcdob.homestead.com/files/warspite.jpg)
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Knight Templar on November 20, 2003, 01:20:32 am
Better perspective shots would be nice.
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: KARMA on November 20, 2003, 04:06:00 am
the bridge suck, and it also intersect the hull. Not much a rendering problem anymore, but there could be collision detection problems
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: TrashMan on November 20, 2003, 04:20:18 am
Ahh....You're trying to make something like a WW2 battleship...
Something like THIS:
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/Pics/PaladinBC.JPG)
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Charmande on November 20, 2003, 08:21:02 am
:eek2: Wow!  Trashman!  that model is beautiful!
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: diamondgeezer on November 20, 2003, 08:30:33 am
Trash mate, I dunno what size you were thinking of making that thing but it's sitting there shouting 'patrol boat' at me :nod:

Oh, and way to hijack the Baron's thread :D
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Lynx on November 20, 2003, 08:41:47 am
Hmm the original FS Textures look bad on TrashMans model. It screams for individual textures.:D
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: kasperl on November 20, 2003, 09:02:13 am
Baron, i like the ovverall ship, a lot, the bridge indeed needs work, it neds to be shorter, and indeed intersecting poly's is reported to be bad for FS. i'd make it a nice corrvette.

btw, the warspite was an corvette or AWACS during the main FS2 camp, right?
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: pyro-manic on November 20, 2003, 10:34:08 am
The Warspite was a Deimos in the TAG missile test missions. But it was also a sweet-looking RN battleship in the 30s and 40s. Dunno why they gave a corvette a battleship name...

Baron, I can't really comment on your ship 'cos I can't see what it looks like - post some isometric and top/side elevations, so we can have a good look at it. :)

Trashman: slap some decent textures on that thing, and make it less symmetrical from top to bottom - it's rather plain at the moment. Also, I'd have to agree with DG on this one - if it's a battleship, it needs to look much more massive and heavy. Give it bigger superstructure, and more polys to give it a bit of detail. :)
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: J3Vr6 on November 20, 2003, 10:43:45 am
From that perspective of the warspite, it looks like a submarine mixed with a cruise ship.
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 20, 2003, 02:35:04 pm
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Originally posted by TrashMan
Ahh....You're trying to make something like a WW2 battleship...
Something like THIS:
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/Trashman/Pics/PaladinBC.JPG)


Well ... no :p It's too flat and boxy for my tastes. I wanted something more like this:

(http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/the158th/mik/CapWIP-01.jpg)

only not :p

I'm going to completely redo the model to make it less curvy and more box-y. I've made about half a dozen of these so-called "model sketches", trying to find the right one. In the end I might junk the turrets entirely and just make rows of broadside torpedo tubes, a la Space Dildoe HonorHarrington / Wing Commander Movie :D
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: magatsu1 on November 20, 2003, 02:54:32 pm
would look alot better minus the turrets on the lower half. yhe others look fine.
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: TheCelestialOne on November 20, 2003, 03:03:16 pm
Wow, nice ship ya got there! Nice indeed! :D

Ermm... In those first pics it looks like a big ass steamboat lol
Title: Finally I can see it!
Post by: Star Dragon on November 20, 2003, 06:40:33 pm
Those earlier thumbs were too small for me , he he..

   I like it, though I agree too gun heavy on the bottom (unless it was upside down? (kidding)

   Baron, since you like the Space-Battleship concept have you considered doing any of the Starbazer ones? I'd love to get the Andromeda!!! (the one with the twin wavemotion guns on the bow).   I DO have the Yamato (aArgo), and Harlock's  Arcadia somewhere in cob format but need to be optimized and subobjected... If you are interested and would send them back to me ASAP!!! :)

http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/4-3-1-1051829698?m=0&pg=3&ro=2&co=0

http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/4-3-5-1061632919?m=0&pg=3&ro=2&co=4

and darn it I still have Andromeda (TV) and last starfighter GUNSTAR, as well as Buck Roger's Star Fighter sitting on ym damn drive waiting for a good optimizer! LOL

someone PM me! ;7
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: karajorma on November 20, 2003, 06:47:59 pm
*For future reference*

If you're going to post a link to Mikhael's stuff you ought to mention who did it or otherwise you're hijacking your own thread :lol:
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 21, 2003, 02:21:31 am
Completely Redone!!!!!(!)

(http://bobmcdob.homestead.com/files/green.jpg)

With apologies to Mikhail - I think the basic form borrows a little heavily, as well as from a certain Star Trek ship :\
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: TrashMan on November 21, 2003, 03:15:50 am
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Trashman: slap some decent textures on that thing, and make it less symmetrical from top to bottom - it's rather plain at the moment. Also, I'd have to agree with DG on this one - if it's a battleship, it needs to look much more massive and heavy. Give it bigger superstructure, and more polys to give it a bit of detail. :)



Who said I'm done?:wink:
 Anyway, the texturing is not good, it was a 2 min job (as allways)... darn... I have to work more on it
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Unknown Target on November 21, 2003, 10:07:16 am
Baron---Looks a lot like a sub. Nice job. Could be usefull as a "Subspace attack sub" :D ;)

Trashman--good model, but too flat and boxy. Make it use the Y dimension more, and add more smooted bits ;)
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: TrashMan on November 21, 2003, 11:45:56 am
Point taken...

And it's not a battleship, it's a battlecruiser (3km).
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: an0n on November 21, 2003, 11:51:02 am
.......Less armour, more speed?
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: TrashMan on November 21, 2003, 11:57:08 am
Same as battleship, only smaller.

Battleship - 7.5 km, 1 very small hangarbay, ultra-heavy armour & shields, ultra-heavy armament, 25m/s
Example (about 2,5 mil HP, 5 mil shield, 90+ turrets)

Battlecruiser - 3km, no hangarbay, heavy armour & shields, heavy weaponry, 30m/s
Example (about 450000 HP, 1mil shields, around 50 turrets)
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 22, 2003, 06:58:06 pm
Armed!

(http://bobmcdob.homestead.com/files/battlewagon.jpg)

I find it ironic my mesh is becoming closer and closer to Trashman's :\

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Baron, since you like the Space-Battleship concept have you considered doing any of the Starbazer ones? I'd love to get the Andromeda!!! (the one with the twin wavemotion guns on the bow).


I seem to recall someone (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,14880.0.html) handling that already :)
Title: You're right...
Post by: Star Dragon on November 23, 2003, 02:40:04 am
Heru hasn't been here (or at least posted a message) since MAY 14th! So I just mailed him to see if he was alive (cross your fingers).

   It was  a case of out of sight, out of mind... two or three others have mentioned doing a SB mod before but they never panned out.. (sorta like Star Trek). ,Hmmmm.he he he

   Anyay, the mesh looks great, can't wait to see what it looks like mapped. Is this for a specific mod or is it gonna be a general release?  ;)
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: TrashMan on November 23, 2003, 01:43:07 pm
N offense Baron, but give me a single bomber and I'll blast that ship to kingdom come!

It has too many places where a fighter can hide and simply blast away.
My current model (like I said, it's still not finished) may not look uber-cool, but it can kick ass....
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: StratComm on November 23, 2003, 04:21:36 pm
Well Trashman, technically the best ship for not being able to hide from is a sentry gun.  And any ship, no matter how large (with the possible exception of the Hades) can be armed in such a way as to prevent holes in the field of fire.  And if you're talking about another one of your giant overtiled cubes of death, then well :doubt:
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: TrashMan on November 24, 2003, 09:47:41 am
CUBES???? CUBES????

I don't make cubes. I make good loking, functional ships!
If you don't like it...tough!
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: mikhael on November 24, 2003, 12:49:22 pm
You do?


*runs*
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Knight Templar on November 24, 2003, 07:36:03 pm
The correct term would be rectangles.


:D
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: StratComm on November 24, 2003, 07:38:46 pm
Rectangular prisms actually, but who's nitpicking :D

And Trashman, it's not that your ships are bad.  They are just, well, simple.  Look at Mikhael's carrier thing, then look at the last thing you posted publicly.  Yours probably has more polys but it's form is a little less aestheticly pleasing.
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: TrashMan on November 25, 2003, 04:14:38 am
*pummels Michael into non-existance*

I can make complex ships too (and no, my ships are low poly....I could make high-detailed "aestheticaly pleasong" ships, but you could have only two--three in a mission. I want large-scale battles!)
Title: [WIP] The Battleship Warspite
Post by: Baron MacDoblin on December 05, 2003, 04:36:24 am
If you're all finished pissing (and you are, quite obviously), I wasn't quite happy with my battleship thing, so I stole inspiration from a Battlestar Galactica sketch and made this:

(http://bobmcdob.homestead.com/files/belleraphon.jpg)

Only 2000-something polys! Probably more once I triangulate and boolean (ooOOOH)! And I promise I'll texture it! Or not!