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Title: The Terran Something....
Post by: adwight on November 21, 2003, 11:28:19 pm
Well here it is, the first something bigger than I fighter I've tried to whip up.  Comments/ideas are appreciated.  I also haven't decided a name for it either...

Perspective View:
(http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/purv/capshipperspective.jpg)

Top View:
(http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/purv/capshiptop.jpg)

Bottom View:
(http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/purv/capshipbottom.jpg)

Side View:
(http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/purv/capshipside.jpg)

I know its not great, I just want to know what you think, and what I can do to improve my skills (or lack thereof) period.
Title: The Terran Something....
Post by: Starks on November 21, 2003, 11:39:58 pm
Call it the GTCv Sebarak.
Title: The Terran Something....
Post by: adwight on November 21, 2003, 11:54:19 pm
What does Sebarak mean, I'm just curious...
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Post by: Starks on November 22, 2003, 12:46:55 am
I doesn't mean anything... We can always call it the GTCv Scimitar, which is a type of sword.
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Post by: Liberator on November 22, 2003, 01:11:45 am
Looks like a bomber version of the Vesuvius.  How about Pompei.  Besides being the more well known city-by-the-volcano, IIRC Pompei was also a Roman Emperor.  Though it may be spelled different.
Title: The Terran Something....
Post by: mikhael on November 22, 2003, 02:28:30 am
Pompeii with two i's I believe.

What's with everyone leaping to name a ship that isn't even finished yet, and NOT CRITIQUING THE DAMN MESH?
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Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 22, 2003, 02:38:45 am
It's boxy. And boxy.
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Post by: Galemp on November 22, 2003, 02:51:33 am
I like it, in an old-school kind of way. It reminds me of some of the FS1 tri-segmented Terran designs, like the Fenris, Faustus, Chronos and Centaur. If you made it a civilian freighter, with a TAC1 dock on the side, it would be nice to use in the FS2 era since the Chronos was retired.

As a fighter or bomber, though, it's not particularly attractive.
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Post by: Turnsky on November 22, 2003, 02:51:57 am
Bloody volvo drivers
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Post by: karajorma on November 22, 2003, 03:22:00 am
I wasn't picturing this as a bomber at all. This has to be a torpedo cruiser! :D

I quite like the basic shape too. It is fairly old school but it does remind me of the FS1 era ships like galemp says.
Title: The Terran Something....
Post by: adwight on November 22, 2003, 08:05:35 am
Yes I've been intending to be some sort of a Torpedo Cruiser too.  However, what do I need to do to make it so un boxy, smooth it out and make any fixes?
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Post by: kasperl on November 22, 2003, 09:01:38 am
Pompeii wasn;t an emperor, there were a few guys named pompeii, all generals, some senators, some govenors of pretty important places, one even consul without a colleauge, but non made emperor IIRC.

anyway, i don;t like the assymetry for a terrran design, but it does have some good things about it. if you put that wing on both sides it might look more Terran. otherwise, add a lot of spiky stuff, and round it off a bit, and call it a shivan bomber.
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Post by: Fozzy on November 22, 2003, 09:20:41 am
The easest way to make it rounder is to press the "Smoth Quad Divide" button.
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Post by: TopAce on November 22, 2003, 09:21:28 am
Put textures on it. The Colossus textures may look like so good.
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Post by: adwight on November 22, 2003, 10:56:57 am
Alrighty, I'll have to give it a shot.
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Post by: Woolie Wool on November 22, 2003, 11:18:59 am
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Originally posted by Liberator
Looks like a bomber version of the Vesuvius.  How about Pompei.  Besides being the more well known city-by-the-volcano, IIRC Pompei was also a Roman Emperor.  Though it may be spelled different.


GTC Herculaneum! That city was also destroyed by the 79 A.D. eruption.

Oh, and there was a man named Pompey who competed with Julius Caesar for control of Rome; I think you're talking about him.
Title: The Terran Something....
Post by: Knight Templar on November 22, 2003, 11:25:58 am
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Originally posted by mikhael
Pompeii with two i's I believe.

What's with everyone leaping to name a ship that isn't even finished yet, and NOT CRITIQUING THE DAMN MESH?


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Post by: Beowulf on November 22, 2003, 12:14:38 pm
Extrude much? ;)

Anyway, I like the idea of a torpedo ship, maybe like a PT boat idea. Give it something powerful like torpedoes, make it fast, make it weak.
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Post by: Woolie Wool on November 22, 2003, 01:00:11 pm
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
*snip*


There's not much to say about it. It's just this cruisery bombery thing. There's nothing really good or bad about it, it's just boring.:blah:
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Post by: magatsu1 on November 22, 2003, 03:45:26 pm
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Originally posted by Fozzy
The easest way to make it rounder is to press the "Smoth Quad Divide" button.


care to explain further ? ;7
um. please ?!
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Post by: Knight Templar on November 22, 2003, 05:38:03 pm
Are you using max?
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Post by: mikhael on November 22, 2003, 06:05:28 pm
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool


There's not much to say about it. It's just this cruisery bombery thing. There's nothing really good or bad about it, it's just boring.:blah:

Perhaps, then, you could give the man some idea's to help make it less boring?
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Post by: Woolie Wool on November 22, 2003, 06:09:20 pm
Add details. Extrusions, recesses, dishes, whatever. Just break up those dull flat spaces.
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Post by: adwight on November 22, 2003, 06:35:16 pm
No, I'm using Truespace 3.2.... Smooth would be a nice thing to learn...
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Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 22, 2003, 06:52:03 pm
Hand it to me and I'll add some curves.
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Post by: adwight on November 22, 2003, 09:32:39 pm
Alright here it is.  Thank you for your help.
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Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 23, 2003, 01:02:43 am
Here's a bit of what I did...

(http://bobmcdob.homestead.com/files/cruiser.jpg)
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Post by: TopAce on November 23, 2003, 01:26:17 pm
Did you make it with 'Smooth Quad Divide'?
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Post by: Nifelheim on November 23, 2003, 02:00:49 pm
hmmm, adwight's version lacked a bit of detail. I like what Baron MacDoblin did, and if textured good it could be excellent!
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Post by: TopAce on November 23, 2003, 02:14:12 pm
Typically, this is the stage of a model, where the modeller has to realize his UV co-ordinates are wrong, and several textures are not visible.
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Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 23, 2003, 03:05:59 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce
Did you make it with 'Smooth Quad Divide'?


I... don't have the slightest idea what that is :) I mostly chamfered the edges here and there, with a bit of tesselation ... is that what you mean?
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Post by: TopAce on November 23, 2003, 03:12:48 pm
It is located in the toolbar of TrueSpace. Next to the 'Plugins icon'
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Post by: Lynx on November 23, 2003, 03:25:34 pm
Actually 'smooth quad divide' is the worst thing that could happen to most models:p
I've got not a single model that looked better after the process.

BTW Bob that looks cool, Would make a good torpedo gunship. Now slap some cool individual textures on it. I don't want such a cool model to be befallen by the tiling disease.
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Post by: TopAce on November 23, 2003, 03:29:06 pm
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Originally posted by Lynx
Actually 'smooth quad divide' is the worst thing that could happen to most models:p


It is merely a subjective opinion, isn't it?
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Post by: Taristin on November 23, 2003, 03:30:16 pm
That's definately not SQD'd... SQD would round it off. It only works on *Some* Vasudan ships. And only if you do it just right...
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Post by: TopAce on November 23, 2003, 03:42:57 pm
It worked every time I clicked on it. :D
Or do you mean something else?
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Post by: Taristin on November 23, 2003, 03:46:03 pm
I mean the effect doesn't suit the model nine times out of ten. The best effects are usually only on Vasudan ships, and even then, most don't look good.
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Post by: TopAce on November 23, 2003, 03:48:16 pm
That's also good for increasing the polycount. For those who go for the numbers.
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Post by: StratComm on November 23, 2003, 04:05:46 pm
:wtf:

yeah...  as if anyone would want to up the polycount without adding detail...
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Post by: adwight on November 23, 2003, 06:46:11 pm
Whoa man, that looks way better, I gotta learn gmax better, if I can do that to models...
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Post by: Baron MacDoblin on November 23, 2003, 10:34:31 pm
The problem with the basic design is that it seems to lack direction -  when I open it up it looks like a spacefaring version of the International Space Station. Doug Chiang, designer for the Star Wars prequels, said a good design should be expressible in a minumum of strokes, barring details. While of course if you want to design an industrial ship you can throw that out the window, it will be heavily dependent on details and textures to break up the confusion. A good design looks good detailed or not.
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Post by: StratComm on November 23, 2003, 10:39:42 pm
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Originally posted by Baron MacDoblin
it looks like a spacefaring version of the International Space Station.


You do, I trust, realize the irony of that statement.

I agree, its parts are not as cohesive as I would put in to one of my designs.  However, neither are the EA ships in inferno, and most of them come over very well.  I tend to have the habbit of modeling on the fly, so most of my ships don't come out like the concepts anyway.
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Post by: karajorma on November 26, 2003, 05:31:47 am
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Originally posted by adwight
Whoa man, that looks way better, I gotta learn gmax better, if I can do that to models...


Not to put you off learning GMax but you could have done that in TS too. :)
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Post by: adwight on November 26, 2003, 11:47:46 pm
I need someone to teach me man, the only person who has ever sat down at taught me was Black Wolf...
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Post by: BlazeME on November 27, 2003, 01:32:52 am
Its boxy so definatly a cruiser. (with a torpedo launcher) :nod: