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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Fineus on November 24, 2003, 11:19:54 am
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I know it's a really long shot - but did anyone other than me end up at Telewest Arena in Newcastle yesterday to see Radiohead? Thought a little discussion might be in order if the answer is yes ;)
As for my opinion... ****ing awesome. One of the greatest gigs I've ever seen - everything was just right. If any of you ever have the oppertunity to see them - go do it!
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Indeed, it may be a long shot.
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Radiohead? Havnt heard much of them, most ppl over here hate them.
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Yeah, not many UK types around here - and even less of them likely to have actually gone to the event! Ah well.
How come people in the US hate them Drew? (if any other US types can answer this - lets hear it). I'm not saying you have to like them of course - but I can happily avoid country and western without hating it - I just don't like it.
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I saw them here in Vancouver a few months back...
Coolest. Concert. Ever.
Next to the Tragically Hip of course....
And Shrike says they're weak.. BAH
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I personally find Radiohead to be seven shades of bland, much like Coldplay, Travis, The Strokes, The Coral, Blur, Oasis. All that sorta stuff is just nondescript to me, doesn't really do anything other than bore me.
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Those ones that you just listed bore me to tears.. The Strokes especially.... Radiohead on the other hand, do not... Old Radiohead is better, but the new stuff is still good..
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Originally posted by Thorn
I saw them here in Vancouver a few months back...
Coolest. Concert. Ever.
Next to the Tragically Hip of course....
And Shrike says they're weak.. BAH
They are!
Their music is whiny, bland and dull.
So sayeth me.
Don't like the Hip either.
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[color=66ff00]I've really really wanted to like their new stuff but with the exception of one or two tunes it hasn't really got me in the same way as everything before Kid-A. They are a whole different experience live though (saw them on Jools), very energetic.
I'm a big coldplay fan and Muse too, the voice was always my main focus in music. :nod:
BTW ACDC are playing here in january/february. I can't wait. :D
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Originally posted by 01010
I personally find Radiohead to be seven shades of bland, much like Coldplay, Travis, The Strokes, The Coral, Blur, Oasis. All that sorta stuff is just nondescript to me, doesn't really do anything other than bore me.
hey, deh coldplay is cool.
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Originally posted by Shrike
They are!
Their music is whiny, bland and dull.
So sayeth me.
Don't like the Hip either.
And I say you are whiny, bland and dull!
So there!
Well.. Whiny anyway...
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Now now ;)
I can understand the desire for something unique about music - but I actually find that there is something unique about all those bands (Radiohead, Coldplay, Blur, Oasis, etc.) ok - some of their songs are bland. No denying it. But I guess it depends what you look for in a band - I don't see Prodigy lovers heading for Coldplay due to their similarities ;)
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No no no. You can't put radiohead anywhere near coldplay. Coldplay are the sort of light weight indy pop ****e that should have been shot at birth.
Radiohead - even if you think they are a bit depressing - try something a bit new and different, and I respect them for that. Just listen to kid A.
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Have you listened to Radiohead though? They're not depressing. I find most of their stuff pretty uplifting actually (perhaps with the exception of Talk Show Host and No Suprises). Coldplay on the other hand have some very depressing songs. Although I quite like The Scientist - it may be indy but it's good indy. Plus I caught the tail end of the social group who liked Oasis and Blur when I was younger - so I'm still partial to that kind of thing.
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Originally posted by Drew
hey, deh coldplay is cool.
True dat, Clocks rocks. Errr, I didn't mean that rhyme. :p
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I can't stand coldplay, his voice puts me to sleep. Oasis is alright if they don't also put me to sleep. I only like early blur...
Anyway, I like Radiohead, their imagination to make a tune. And I like their early stuff and their newer stuff, with Kid A probably being one of my favorites. And I can't see them as depressing, save for a couple of songs.
Most people I know don't like radiohead for some reason. And usually it's because they liked the early stuff and didn't appreciate them changing their style. Which I think is idiotic, because most bands need to change once in a while.
If I could I'd go to one of their concerts.
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[color=cc9900]Never liked radiohead much myself. I keep trying to listen and like, but it's all so same-ish to me. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention to see the differences, but it's not my fault it puts me to sleep.[/color]
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It's not that I haven't listened to Radiohead, I like a some of their songs, but much like The Red Hot Chilli Peppers or any band that releases such a large volume of songs, I'm going to like at least one or two in a large amount that I don't like.
I like early Radiohead the most. The new stuff does absolutely nothing for me though.
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Radiohead's not particularly horrible, they're just one of those untalented mass-produced bands that has a vaguely original sound to the casual radio-listener and is relatively inoffensive in the same way the Red Hot Chili Peppers aren't. It's perfectly acceptable to like them, bad bands are just fine. Hell, I'm a Frank Black and the Catholics fan, I think they've got about one song that doesn't basically suck. I'd recommend REM if you want a somewhat pretentious pseudo-novel pop band in your album collection over Radiohead, but whatever, you know?
Coldplay, however, I don't get. It's like someone pretending to be a mosquito. A depressed mosquito. Who plays exactly one chord per song. I've got only a shaky understanding of why people are into music so much, but it seems to me that the purpose of music is pretty emphatically not to numb or annoy, and so Coldplay seems kinda counterproductive. At least the Strokes had that whole I'm-the-drunk-guy-standing-on-the-bar-table-singing-atonally charm for the first time you heard them, and the rest don't get stuck in your head.
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Originally posted by Kalfireth
How come people in the US hate them Drew? B]
eh why do most ppl here hate Radiohead? probably cuz they are far from the mainstream. THe current FM radio climate caters to popular artists like Linkin park but shuns artists that are "different"
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Drew: Um, you're kidding, right? Radiohead gets a perfectly disgusting amount of airtime on all the Clear Channel stations basically every time they fart out a new song. They're thoroughly mainstream. They're just also pretty bad.
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Radiohead are mainstream? In the same way that Linkin Park are mainstream? I'm sorry but you're insane. While I can understand that a lot of their songs may sound the same to the casual listener - they're not mass produced like much of the pop ****e you get these days.
Oh, and mainstream does not equal mass produced pop ****e. Not always anyway.
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I never said it did- if anything, you just equated them in that last post. I think I in fact went to lengths to point otherwise.
Radiohead is mainstream because it's played all the ****ing time. If everybody and their dog have heard of the band and know at least one of their songs, they're mainstream as it gets. If their music is played on corporate radio stations regularly, it's really mainstream. What, exactly, are you looking for here? A total monopoly on all music played in any format, anywhere, ever? Would that make it mainstream? Or maybe we need to carve the image of their latest CD cover into the moon for them to be mainstream- would that cut it, or would they still be one of those underground subculture bands?
Bands like Radiohead develop a good chunk of their fanbase from the pretence that they're somehow a niche, a tiny subcategory of elites who find all the music nobody else will listen to. It's the same basic concept as all those designer brands that charge twice as much for a crappy T-shirt that's supposed to express your "individuality", that everyone you know ends up buying anyway. Same as that "Army of one" bull****- it doesn't have to have anything to do with reality, it doesn't even need to make sense all the time, because people want to believe the myth. Tell someone they're a special snowflake, and they'll buy anything, doesn't matter what it is. The fact that Radiohead fans still invariably claim that they're some sort of oppressed minority (and defend such violently- you should see the flames I've gotten for almost exactly the above paragraph) when the band has to be at the very least in the top 50 sellers right now really just says it all- do you really wanna buy into that kind of horse****? Value the music for itself, not for some meaning a guy who gets paid to lie to people attaches to it. If you still like it then, sans all the advertisement crap, then fine, you like it for the right reasons. I doubt most people would.
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Fair enough - glad you clarified though because I was thinking you were putting the mass produced pop ****e and Radiohead in the same basket... which to me it isnt.
But I like to think I'm not so naive as to think I'm one of the special few to like Radiohead - lots of people like them, lots of people don't. I was just curious as to why some dont (not looking to persuade - just ot hear a point of view). I do like their music because of how it sounds... that said I don't like all thieir music - ho hum :)
By the by - what music do you (and everyone else here if they care to say) like?
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Varies. I have a lot of Led Zeppelin and Ozzy Osborne these days, because that's what's on the network.
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Clear Channel owns like 2 or 3 stations (one being alternative rock and the other being classic rock, not sure of the other one if there is one) down here and not one of them plays new radiohead so I don't know about them being played "all the time." The only one they actually play is "Creep" and that's far and in between.
What I listen to? Mostly: NIN, Baby Fox, Esthero, Portishead, Tricky, DJ Baby Anne (breakbeatz), DJ Icey (breakbeatz), Jane Jenson, Liz Phair