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Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 12:22:16 am
Alright,
i know theirs many Talented and gifted ppl here .. with art , Freding, and animation and all sorts of stuff...
im willing 2 learn. if anyone would like 2 Teach me or take me on as a 'Learner' or somthing id be glad 2. i would like 2 make Art.. as in fs2 art that u c on the right side of the home pg of HLP.

Anyone interested in teaching me?

Spike out!
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Shrike on November 30, 2003, 12:27:27 am
Hmm, I'll put this in FS modding.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: kv1at3485 on November 30, 2003, 12:29:49 am
Well, FREDding is not something that is taught, per se.  The way I started FREDding was to peek into other people's missions.  I took what I thought to be the best techniques and applied them to my missions.  There is no shame in learning from those more skilled than oneself.  (I should know, I'm still learning... :nervous: )

Go download missions and campaigns and open them up in FRED, that should give you good start! :yes:
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 12:33:51 am
ty kvat, but 1 q.
how do i opean it up in fred? do i put it in games\fs2\data\missions ?  or what.. so i can opean it up wif fred mission editor.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: kv1at3485 on November 30, 2003, 12:37:32 am
Truthfully, it doesn't matter where you place the mission files.  You can search for and open them in FRED.  However, placing them in your /missions directory will allow you to test your missions quickly since that is where FS looks for them.

On the other hand, if the missions you want to open are in a '.vp' file, you'll have to get VPView to extract them.  I believe a download link for VPView may be found through the 'Resources' link on the HLP homepage.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 01:00:07 am
ty again.
il check it out.

also,
i would come up with excelent missions cept i dont understand the Sexp's nothin works.
can anone help me out?

Spike
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: kv1at3485 on November 30, 2003, 01:05:08 am
What problems are you having?
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 01:07:05 am
my email is [email protected].

and my probs.. wel i just cant put a darn sexp in anywher, i dont understand it. its overwhelming 2 me, i jsut cant put 2 and 2 togeather when im trying 2 figure out sexp's.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Bobboau on November 30, 2003, 01:20:49 am
stop useing numbers as words,
it's 'to'
use real words, not AOL truncations
most of us are in our 20s and that sort of crap just makes you look like an idiot, and causes great pain in our eyes when reading your posts, please write like a normal human, it woun't cause you keyboard to wear out if you use all the leaters in a word,
note; I am NOT a strikler for spelling/gramer
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 01:29:41 am
I wil Try to remember and work on doing that.
Plz be patient with me.. im trying ok.
Spike
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 01:30:31 am
this is the first day on the fourms and ive gotten alot of crap already.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: kv1at3485 on November 30, 2003, 01:31:50 am
First things first: have you read the FRED2 help file?  (Can be accessed through the 'Help' menu and clicking 'Help Topics.')  When in doubt, read the instructions. :)

Just to review: to get to the events editor, select the 'Editors' menu, and click on 'Events' to access the events manager.

Yes? :nod:
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Galemp on November 30, 2003, 02:07:34 am
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Originally posted by Charismatic
this is the first day on the fourms and ive gotten alot of crap already.


Well, you did start off by completely bypassing all the normal required reading and telling us we're all playing a dead game by posting in every forum... :doubt:

But anyway. Since we assume you've played the main campaign, all you have to do is open FRED and the help file and do the tutorial. Don't just read it, actually DO the steps, then save and play it to see what happens. After that you'll be all set.

Or you can start by downloading some of the user-friendly finished mods around here (like Inferno, the NTV demo, Lightning Marshall, even the FS Port) and playing through those to see what we've been up to.
Check out the hilights, browse the modding forum, and try to contribute to discussions and absorb some information before posting a new thread about something that could easily be found through a search. Respect everyone here and they will respect you.

Have fun; most of us do. :)
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Black Wolf on November 30, 2003, 02:16:45 am
If you want to learn to do Art like the stuff on the main page you'll need some 3d software with render capabilities. 3ds Max is, IMO, the most user friendly of the bunch but it's also expensive, and the Free version, GMax, has no rendering capabilities. Anybody else have any suggestions?

As for FRED, do the walkthrough, and read the relevant sections on the Wiki. It's small ATM, but it's got some handy tips and tricks. Once you start to understand how to script your events, you're well on your way to becoming a successful FREDder.

Oh, and Play NTV. NTV - teh ownage. :D
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: karajorma on November 30, 2003, 03:41:06 am
Have a look at my FAQ (the link is below) for some more tips on how to start FREDding and Modding.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Ashrak on November 30, 2003, 04:04:43 am
well....art.....erm i can teach you some stuff if you have lightwave 3d otherwise i dont know :(
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Lightspeed on November 30, 2003, 06:37:35 am
Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
stop useing numbers as words,
it's 'to'
use real words, not AOL truncations
most of us are in our 20s and that sort of crap just makes you look like an idiot, and causes great pain in our eyes when reading your posts, please write like a normal human, it woun't cause you keyboard to wear out if you use all the leaters in a word,
note; I am NOT a strikler for spelling/gramer


I know him. Let's hope he doesn't mess up here (like he did in various other locations *cough*) :)
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Taristin on November 30, 2003, 09:05:21 am
/me wonders if linking to the HLPBB on the VWBB was a good idea...
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: diamondgeezer on November 30, 2003, 09:15:45 am
Well Petrarch started bringing PC Gamer types over here, and this can't be much worse.

*reads thread*

Oh... oh dear
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Lightspeed on November 30, 2003, 09:47:24 am
I like trouble kiddies. It keeps the 'reasonable' people active because they have to keep things civilized. The only situation where it sucks is when you dont have any form of moderating powers (like on PXO, or the former VBB). :nod:
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: kasperl on November 30, 2003, 11:08:02 am
ok, everything as been mentioned, but in case you don;t know where the wiki is, here is a link:

http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/fsdoc/
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: diamondgeezer on November 30, 2003, 11:47:41 am
I'm scared of the Wiki... :shaking:
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Carl on November 30, 2003, 12:55:17 pm
The Wiki is coming for you, DG. It's at your door right now...
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: kasperl on November 30, 2003, 02:29:03 pm
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
I'm scared of the Wiki... :shaking:


it doesn't even bloody well work, what's there to be scared of?
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: diamondgeezer on November 30, 2003, 02:31:54 pm
It's big and complicated and frightening. I'm scared of new things.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 02:40:36 pm
Ashrak,
how do i get that ' lightwave 3d' software?
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: kasperl on November 30, 2003, 02:48:10 pm
by paying a lot.


google is a nice option too, you know. just type "lightwave 3d" and i am sure you can find something, now can't you?
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: DragonClaw on November 30, 2003, 03:47:23 pm
And I thought I've seen the worst of the newbies... wow.

Hmm.

Charis, you seem to be a very impatient type. So don't even try getting into the 3d art part of hte world. Why? Because the #1 factor in good art is PATIENCE.

Just get the free version of TrueSpace 3.2, and you'll see what I mean ;7
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Lightspeed on November 30, 2003, 03:51:53 pm
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Originally posted by DragonClaw
And I thought I've seen the worst of the newbies... wow.

Hmm.

Charis, you seem to be a very impatient type. So don't even try getting into the 3d art part of hte world. Why? Because the #1 factor in good art is PATIENCE.


Don't even bother :)
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Stryke 9 on November 30, 2003, 03:52:00 pm
Nothing good can something with a name like Wiki.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Starks on November 30, 2003, 03:54:02 pm
What about Wikipedia?
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 03:57:19 pm
dang, you guys really are bias agienst me.. and im only on my second day here.

i can be patient. if i try >)

you guys dont care bout others feelings do you ?

Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Charismatic on November 30, 2003, 03:58:20 pm
and Lightspeed seems to be the most bias. >(
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Bobboau on November 30, 2003, 04:04:06 pm
and there is an edit button

just calm down and quit trying to be 1337
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Taristin on November 30, 2003, 04:05:36 pm
Err... You come off a bit strong.  You made a topic saying that the game we come together for is old and dead. You also continued to use the 2 instead of to, and the like, here, after Bobboau asked you not to on the VWBB... And Lightspeed claims he knows you, so I wonder if he has good reason to be biased.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: DragonClaw on November 30, 2003, 04:06:33 pm
Bias is generally an unjustified prejudice or judgement on another.

We have plenty of justification for judging you.

Lets see.

Spam, spam, not searching before posting, more spam. Uhh... Saying stuff is dead when it most certainly is not. More spam. And thats only with ~30 posts. Wow.

Btw, if you want to be of more worth, find me a good 3d model of a human. Female or male I care not I just need something to make a cutscene out of.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: karajorma on November 30, 2003, 04:15:39 pm
Charismatic I've found HLP to be one of the most friendly bulletin boards around.

It appears that completely by accident you're managing to push peoples buttons. So take some friendly advice.

1) Lots of people have posted links or advice, myself included. We've posted them cause the answers you want are there. For example the question about LightWave you asked is actually answered in my FAQ's modding section.

2) Try a bit harder with the grammer and english. While most of us will forgive it in a foreigner it's a little harder to stomach from someone who is most likely a native english speaker. Using bad grammer and no capital letters looks sloppy and makes your sentances harder to read. The upshot is most people will cease to bother trying and just ignore your posts.

3) The people on this board are reasonably forgiving of minor transgressions so if you smarten up a little and improve your image no one will remember it in a few days time.

I'm not a moderator or admin of any sort around here so you can ignore what I'm saying if you choose to do so but I would advise that you pay it some attention.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Lightspeed on November 30, 2003, 04:29:07 pm
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dang, you guys really are bias agienst me.. and im only on my second day here.

i can be patient. if i try > )

you guys dont care bout others feelings do you ?



and Lightspeed seems to be the most bias. >(


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Err... You come off a bit strong. You made a topic saying that the game we come together for is old and dead. You also continued to use the 2 instead of to, and the like, here, after Bobboau asked you not to on the VWBB... And Lightspeed claims he knows you, so I wonder if he has good reason to be biased.


ohh the good old times... lets quote

Quote
what the lsd, and others said
lsd?
yes
:)
hi light speed u little ****er!
hi ephili
hi
lsd and esd!
who are ya living pxo
guess :P
guess :P
ah **** u
all noobs join evo's game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
every one JOIN EVO"S GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL JOIN EVOS GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yep
all join evo's game!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!111111oeneoneoneoneoneone
:p
you said newbies
all join evo's gme!!!!!!!
ohh he's learning
less !!!!! action
all join evo's game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
amm join evo's game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ephili
all join evo's game@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
---
hi ****ING SSC
the machines live there
hi ephili
well, all non ssc join me!>>>>>>>
youre making yourself look like a moron
lol
hi smily
i love people like him
---
I AM THE GREAT EPHILI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyone here LOL>
?????????????????????
I AM THE GREAT EPHILI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>.
 


Ephili = Charismatic, FYI

just a little excerpt of what he's up to.

I mean, look at it. Then judge, I have my reasons to be 'skeptic' about him.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Falcon on November 30, 2003, 04:37:48 pm
Falcon comes in, looks at Charismatic, and laughs saying, "what kind of name is Ephili?" Laughs again, and walks out of room. :lol:
:ha:
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Taristin on November 30, 2003, 04:38:28 pm
...right. Ok Enough said for me. Between this and on the VWBB, I'm forming my own conclusions already...
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Lightspeed on November 30, 2003, 04:42:10 pm
I cant say about the VWBB since I never actually was active there but everywhere where i have met him he's been like that, or got to be like that.

His ego is uhm... inflated to unusual proportions...
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Taristin on November 30, 2003, 04:44:49 pm
Freud would claim it's tiny Pee-pee syndrome, no?

Sorry, my head's in the gutter now..
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Falcon on November 30, 2003, 04:50:53 pm
Me thinks he's evil. :devil:  Can he be deflated?

Hmm... could create mission out of him... Shivans leave cause GTVA has new weapon the Ephili virus.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Bobboau on November 30, 2003, 04:53:22 pm
yeah all they'd need is an IRC chanel and an ETAK device the shivans would blow them selvs up in a matter of a few days.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Falcon on November 30, 2003, 04:55:35 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
[opens  up his weapons tbl to see if possible]
Give it a nice green fungi effect and the sounds would be
"ALL JOIN EVOS GAME" so loud it would blow out the eardrums of everybody within a certain radius.
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Lightspeed on November 30, 2003, 05:46:18 pm
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Originally posted by Falcon
Me thinks he's evil. :devil:  Can he be deflated?

Hmm... could create mission out of him... Shivans leave cause GTVA has new weapon the Ephili virus.


Well, beating him 15 to 0 doesnt deflate it. Usually that helps, but in this special case, it only makes the situation worse.

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[opens up his weapons tbl to see if possible]
Give it a nice green fungi effect and the sounds would be
"ALL JOIN EVOS GAME" so loud it would blow out the eardrums of everybody within a certain radius.


Well, that's more realistic than you think. I think at some point he messed around with the microphone chat in FS2 multi :nod: :lol:
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Taristin on November 30, 2003, 05:54:24 pm
Okay... now that this session of n00b bashing is completed...(hopefully)... this thread has outlived it's usefulness...
Title: Hay Guys... Im wanting 2 pick up some skils...
Post by: Fineus on November 30, 2003, 05:57:58 pm
Roger that.