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Title: eh?
Post by: silverwolf on December 07, 2003, 10:15:01 am

Unless my fs knowlage escaped my brain(god forbid) theres is no such thing as freespace darkness rising or a unreleased fs game. Yet http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3062511972&category=11047

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Post by: diamondgeezer on December 07, 2003, 10:34:29 am

It's the FS2 OEM pack isn't it? You get the first act, getting kicked out before the Vasudan missions start.

I got bit by this buying Conflict:FreeSpace. Thought I was getting the whole deal only to get booted out after the Taranis mission :blah:

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Post by: silverwolf on December 07, 2003, 10:41:41 am

i thought conflict freespace was freespace in another country

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Post by: Starks on December 07, 2003, 11:27:33 am

I own:

Descent Freespace: Darkness Rising

Freespace 2: Sci-Fi Sim of the Year Edition

Freespace 2: Collosus

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Post by: Lightspeed on December 07, 2003, 12:01:33 pm

I own...

Conflict: Freespace - works fine, I can play the whole campaign

It's just the name. Conflict: Freespace is actually the same thing as Descent: Freespace is

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Post by: diamondgeezer on December 07, 2003, 02:39:56 pm

No it's not. My Conflict: FreeSpace is the short OEM version. Descent: FreeSpace is the actual full game :nod:

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Post by: vyper on December 07, 2003, 03:01:33 pm

Nope, Conflict: Freespace  The Great War is the UK release of fs1

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Post by: Lynx on December 07, 2003, 03:03:13 pm

Conflict:Freespace is the european/german name for Descent:Freespace. Feck if I know why they changed that.

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Post by: Hippo on December 07, 2003, 03:31:03 pm

darkness rising is the demo of FS1...

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Post by: DeepSpace9er on December 07, 2003, 03:44:26 pm

Now why is Freespace 1 officially called Descent Freespace: The Great War, and FS2 called Freespace 2 without the Descent part? I specualte that FS1 was intented to continue to Descent saga but FS2 went too far off on a limb to really bear the Descent name... just my speculation, whats the truth?

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Post by: vyper on December 07, 2003, 04:01:47 pm

The truth is there were legal issues with the name.

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Post by: Hippo on December 07, 2003, 05:47:51 pm

FS1 was suposedly the space variation... It was origonally going to be called Descent: Spacesomethingorother... Before FS2 came out, they decided to drop the descent part since it didn't fall in line with the descent series...

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Post by: Taristin on December 07, 2003, 06:52:22 pm

...My OEM FS1 was the full game... Just it was unpatchable... and only runs on a P3 machine...  Unless I can get the FS1 exe from Sandwich again...

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Post by: Hippo on December 07, 2003, 07:09:55 pm

Thats where it is... Darkness Rising is packaged with the old computers, sortof like my FS2 says "Packages software. Not to be sold seperately." FS1 couldn't patch, and my FS2 lacked the GOTY stuff, since it came out before the goty version...

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Post by: Knight Templar on December 07, 2003, 08:36:42 pm

My darkness Rising went up to the Taranis and came with my old Gravis Blackhawk joystick. Man those were the good old days, I actually thought that was the end of freespace and didn't realise until I got FS2 and they were talking about a Lucifer that I had missed anything. :D

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Post by: diamondgeezer on December 08, 2003, 08:49:02 am

OK, last time I'll post in this argument cos it's pretty pointless.

I've just looked at my CDs, to make double sure. Descent: FreeSpace is FS1, in the cardboard wallet with the two discs. Conflict: FreeSpace is a single disc in a white-backed jewel case and is the OEM 'software bundle' version, with only the first third of the game. Thank you and goodnight.

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Post by: Black Wolf on December 08, 2003, 09:56:44 am

FS1 was prefaced with Descent because there was already a Disk Cleaning utility with the copyrighted name "Freespace". Since there was no disk cleaning "Freespace 2", V dropped the Descent from the sequel. Dunno why it became conflict Freespace in the UK though. Another interesting naming tidbit the name "Freespace" actually comes from what Adam Pletcher originally decided Subspace was going to be called.

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Post by: Hunter on December 08, 2003, 10:22:19 am

The real deal from the horses mouth - The Descent titles did not go down to well in places like the UK (maybe not in viewpoints, but definitely in sales figures), and thus, the name "Descent" was changed to Conflict for the purpose of not misleading the public to believe this was a Descent title.  Conflict Freespace is the official name for the European release of FS1. Anyone wanna add? :P

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Post by: magatsu1 on December 10, 2003, 12:53:30 pm

I've got the original release and a latter budget release of Conflict, and they're both full versions of the game.

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Post by: diamondgeezer on December 11, 2003, 08:58:26 am

Told you this wasa pointless argument

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Post by: magatsu1 on December 11, 2003, 02:36:56 pm

Quote

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Told you this wasa pointless argument

why, cos' you're wrong ?


Bring on the flames!!:cool:

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Post by: Nico on December 11, 2003, 02:53:42 pm

Quote

Originally posted by Hunt Smacker
The real deal from the horses mouth - The Descent titles did not go down to well in places like the UK (maybe not in viewpoints, but definitely in sales figures), and thus, the name "Descent" was changed to Conflict for the purpose of not misleading the public to believe this was a Descent title.  Conflict Freespace is the official name for the European release of FS1. Anyone wanna add? :P

voila, the guy got it right:
Descent is well known in europe, but not a big seller, so they went for conflict to avoid FS1 being judge from descent. that's all there is behind it.

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Post by: Star Dragon on December 13, 2003, 05:48:48 am

Considering the descent 3 trailer was out on the FS disc but FS1 and 2 blow it away!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL kill off descent series and stick to FS! No offense to anyone out there :nervous: