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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stunaep on December 09, 2003, 08:25:44 am
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My copy of LOTR:TT:EE just arrived.
See ya in 3 days.
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Originally posted by Stunaep
See ya in 3 days.
:lol:
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It's pretty good... lots of extra goodies but mainly just an all-around improved film. A good bit of that character development stuff found its way back in, and the whole Ent thing doesn't seem like such a random side-treck anymore. I have read the books, and the film still doesn't come close (depth or accuracy to the original story) but it's better than the theater version.
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The first one was pretty close to the book, not exactly perfect but still pretty close. When I saw the 2nd one I thought it was going to be the same, but it really was different from the book. Kinda dissapointed me.
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I noticed the differences and was not disapointed one bit. I loved The Two Towers....a really powerful and emotional movie. I loved the imagery, the characters, and the way it was all setup.
I didn't for a minute believe any of them could be exactly the same as the book...its a book, this is a movie, a different medium requires a different approach.
But thats just me....
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Yeah, IceFire is dead on.
I've got my TTT:EE DVD sitting on the shelf next to FOTR:EE. I haven't watched TTT yet, though. The weekend before my wife and I go to the theatre we've picked out (Stratcomm: Brier Creek. Newest cinema in the area, big screens, stadium seating and excellent chairs), we're going to watch FOTR on Friday night, TTT on Saturday night, and Sunday night we'll go see ROTK.
If I were a real geek, I'd get some of the 1day screening tickets from work and go spend an entire day watching all three extended movies back to back to back. I just can't sit for nine hours at a shot.
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I'm really happy with my the Extended Edition! :D Great appendices and and just a allround better film. And the commentaries are just great. They give the reasons why they did some departures from the book and they all seem sound. And I'm really happy the gave a nice conclusion to the little competition between Gimli and Legolas. Just icing on the cake. Though what was funny with the PJ commentary was that originally the whole scene with Saruman and Gandalf at Isegard was intended for the end of the TTT but PJ instead said that it seemed better for the beggining of the 3rd movie, then end the 2nd. But now with PJ cutting that scene out of ROTK, his explenation was the complete opposite. He now said it seemed like it was wrapping things up for the 2nd movie and not suited for being the beggning of the 3rd. Hmm... Well it better be somewhere then, cause its a pritty pivotal scene. It pritty much sets off everything for the 3rd movie...
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I agree with everyone here. The LOTR Movies are nowhere near the level of greatness of the book, but by far the best thing that has come out of Hollywood since Empire Strikes Back (which IMO, is inferior to both movies, as is A New Hope, not to mention the other Star Wars movies, but I'm placing this as a marker, because I don't want to piss off any SW junkies here)
Anyway, I am really, REALLY pissed, because for some reason, my TT EE is in black and white. :wtf:
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uuh, :wtf: Black and White? Did you brake your S-video cable or is it just the EE dvd?
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That's just the EE. I'm guessing it has something to do with it being a Region 1 dvd. Although my DVD player is supposed to be multiregional
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B&W is usually a PAL/NTSC thing.
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does that actually count in DVDs?
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Ah, yes it does. IF you're tv cant display ntsc correctly it'll show in Black and white. Its your TV dude.
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Ah, and where can I read if the thing is in NTSC?
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the dvd? Usually when they're R1 they're NTSC, because they're from the United States. But you can check on the DVD discs themselves. There at the bottom where you see the R1 logo (a globe with a 1 on it) you should see NTSC below it.
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how 'bout computers? Does NTSC display colors on them?
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*shrugs* i liked it :D
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[q]how 'bout computers? Does NTSC display colors on them?[/q]
Computers, like so many borg, usually adapt to display either pal or ntsc.
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[color=66ff00]X2 was one of the best sequels I've seen in a very long time (probably since Aliens or T2) that's not counting any of the LOTR movies. I thought TTT was an excellent movie in the cinema, PJ did the book as much justice as he could in the cine version, the DVD will no doubt be better but I still highly rate the original cut.
If academy awards were actually worth anything anymore I'd put gollum forward as best supporting character, which is pretty bloody astounding considering the only part of him that exists in the real world is his voice.
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That's only partly true, his motion is often actually motion capture from a real guy (a somewhat nutty guy, but he's the same one who does the voice) with animation overlay. But how funny would it be to have him win an academy award?
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Why do you people have such a goddamn fetish about the LOTR books?
I'm like half-way through ROTK and I have to say, it's pretty ****in stupid.
It reads like one of my primary-school stories from when I was 7.
War starts, big battle, start losing, start winning, losing again, stupidly over-powering reinforcements arrive, start winning again, win abruptly and suddenly with little descriptions as to how or why! Repeat on larger scale.
And the subtle homosexuality running throughout is just about unbearable.
See, most people think Tolkien never had any real women in his books (and when he did, they were warriors) because he had little experience in dealing with women in his life. But it's for a completely different reason; He was as gay as Virtu in a ballerina's dress.
A bunch of guys - out in the woods - wielding their weapons - horses and dwarves thrown in for some sick fetishist measure.......
And there always seems to be some valiant struggle to get inside some small circular structure filled with warm, welcoming 'goodness'.
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heheheheh...:lol: I guess you can "interperate" the books that way if you wish.
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I think it's because he makes up Elvish in the books, and ****e like that. Most of the real LOTR fans are drawn from the same crowd that learns to speak Klingon.
Honestly, between LOTR, Dune, and the supermarket checkout counter my faith in peoples' ability to discern good writing has just entirely dissapeared. People are stupid, and deserve nothing better than the filth they keep swallowing on TV.
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Thats exactly why I suggest people read "Greyfriars Bobby". Now theres a wovely wittle thtoory. Or if you feel like something more amusing, "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy". Though both books have absolutely nothing in common, they're still good reads. But alas, I am also suprised at the fact that people can still read in this day and age, with the TV on 24/7.
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Were my roommate not going to object at great length, I would have shot my TV long ago. Never turn the blasted Satanic little device on, certainly.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Were my roommate not going to object at great length, I would have shot my TV long ago. Never turn the blasted Satanic little device on, certainly.
It's your own fault if you never bother to tune into the programs that are informative and educational.
Even in America PBS shows some of the shows from the UK that are well worth watching. First time I went to the US they were showing a program I'd caught in the UK following the route Alexander the Great took through Persia and India. Learnt more from that one program than I did in 3 years of history classes.
In the UK the situation is much better with programs on science and history getting prime time slots fairly often.
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Was sitting here not working on a paper today while my roommate watched the Nature Channel, and it dawned on me after a few minutes that the lecture they were doing on some wild bird was done in reality show form, with them daring naturalists to go harass the bird without getting an eye pecked out or something.
Like hell I'm going to give TV a chance.
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TV is the Devil!
The Waterboy, I think. :lol:
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Best thing I ever saw on a TV was the way a cathode ray tube implodes when set alight
Me.
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Originally posted by karajorma
It's your own fault if you never bother to tune into the programs that are informative and educational.
Even in America PBS shows some of the shows from the UK that are well worth watching. First time I went to the US they were showing a program I'd caught in the UK following the route Alexander the Great took through Persia and India. Learnt more from that one program than I did in 3 years of history classes.
In the UK the situation is much better with programs on science and history getting prime time slots fairly often.
The one good thing about being forced to pay License Fees. By forcibly sucking cash from everyone who owns a TV, the BBC are legally obliged to provide educational, informative, original and entertaining television.
Unlike Channel 5 who just show porn to rake in cash and ITV who show ****ty soaps to draw the mindless masses.
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I have a TV for the purpose of watching Star Trek, SG-1 and the 'rasslin. I see no reason why I should pay the license fee (well, other than the big fat fine, of course)
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It is a bit annoying to be forced to pay it, but it is educating people, so even if you don't go watch TV it's still having the effect of improving exam results and making the people who plague you each and every day a little smarter.
And BBC News 24 is probably the only impartial news service left in the world, so that alone is worth the fee.
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Originally posted by an0n
It is a bit annoying to be forced to pay it, but it is educating people, so even if you don't go watch TV it's still having the effect of improving exam results and making the people who plague you each and every day a little smarter.
' must be watching a different BBC than me. Red Dwarf aside, of course.
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Originally posted by magatsu1
' must be watching a different BBC than me. Red Dwarf aside, of course.
Well if all you tune into is Eastenders and Fame Academy then yes :)
BBC2 tends to be the more educational of the two channels but even BBC1 tends to do stuff that is presented in a more viewer friendly way but is still pretty educational (e.g the recreations of the last days of Pompeii or the building of the pyramids they did a while back)
Yeah there's a lot of crap on BBC but there is some pretty decent stuff on there. Even something like Time Commanders which is unabashedly early evening light entertainment is full of historical information.
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time commannders is great.
all the stuff the BBC does on history is fantastic, really. it is better then most Discovery stuff, and it is waay better then anything we get on our own national TV. we only get BBC 1 and 2 though, and the sounds on 2 seems a bit bad, but that might be our own cable company.
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I bet you Total War : Rome sells double what the other two games sold in the UK.
I love the show but I can't imagine Creative Assembly complained about the idea of making a show based on their engine which would effectively give them a 45 minute long advert on BBC2 every week :D
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So was thread about Lotr:TTT EE or about other things;)
anyway TTT ee got good extras
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Never actually seen Time Commanders - when's it on?
And TV is crap. The only good thing on at the moment is Little Britain. Brilliant stuff, but then Mark Gatiss is involved.:D American TV (what I've seen of it) is even worse - it's about as low-brow as you can get for the most part, and seems to trade solely off human misery....
As for The Two Towers, I haven't even seen it yet, but I couldn't forgive them for leaving out the Old Forest, Barrow Downs and Tom Bombadil from the first one. That messes up the whole flow of the film - it's like Bree is just next door to the Shire, and Rivendell is just down the road from that. Screws up the whole scale of the thing. And it moves a bit too fast - the Moria bit makes it seem like they're only in there for an afternoon, when it takes 'em about five days in the book.
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well, they do say "it's a five day journey to the other side". And what can you expect from a three hour film.
Oh, and watch the EE.
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Never actually seen Time Commanders - when's it on?
Mondays at 6:45. They originally put it on in a serious history program slot at 8:00pm to attract the history buffs and then they moved it to the "yoof" slot at 6:45 to get all the younger people.
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
I couldn't forgive them for leaving out ...Tom Bombadil
You die now.
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:wtf: He's a prancing fool, I know. It's an important part of the plot, though - the Old Forest and the Barrow Wights are the first major bits of action, and it shows the distances they have to travel....
Re. Time Commanders - bugger. I'm busy Monday nights. Oh well... Don't suppose it's repeated, by any chance?
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He shows just how bad fantasy writers are at writing about anything not evil.
Come to think of it, their evil ain't all that hot either, mostly consisting of fangy things and stuff that wants to eat your brain.
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Re. Time Commanders - bugger. I'm busy Monday nights. Oh well... Don't suppose it's repeated, by any chance?
Not as far as I know but I'm sure they'll repeat it fairly soon. It's audience won't be as big once Total War : Rome is released.
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wopee, I got it working! (well, not really, I just switched copys with Teno')
I'm through the first run of the four discs. Now, onwards to commentarys.