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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stryke 9 on December 11, 2003, 04:59:24 am

Title: Well, ****.
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 11, 2003, 04:59:24 am
No more Fallout 3. (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/fallout3/news_6085243.html)

Bloody typical that they'd can the one series in the genre I find even marginally playable.
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Post by: Kamikaze on December 11, 2003, 05:01:22 am
I'm thinking Interplay has absolutely nothing to redeem itself with now.
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Post by: Ashrak on December 11, 2003, 06:06:21 am
interplay SUCKS!
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Post by: Thorn on December 11, 2003, 06:12:10 am
someone get me the coordinates for the Interplay offices... I've got an old Russian missile with their name on it..
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Post by: Turnsky on December 11, 2003, 07:34:55 am
well.. nobody's ever accused interplay of being smart.. but so far, they make my toenails seem like they each have an IQ of 40000 by mere comparison..
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Post by: Kamikaze on December 11, 2003, 08:00:39 am
Well, it is fact that Black Isle wasn't getting them as much greenbacks as they'd like. CRPGs are a rather niche-genre.
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Post by: Impurial on December 11, 2003, 08:31:22 am
CRPGs are niche?  Non-open-ended RPGs maybe.

Nonetheless BIS were Quality. Sad to see them go. :(
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Post by: IceFire on December 11, 2003, 08:34:57 am
Thing is tho...Interplay has canned most of its games over the last little while.  A game not getting enough greenbacks should in theory be better than not getting any greenbacks at all...just a thought.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on December 11, 2003, 09:15:28 am
I'll assume we'll not be getting FS3 either, then
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Post by: Thorn on December 11, 2003, 09:35:47 am
Was it absolutely necessary to mention that DG?

The Interplay execs must be taking from Jack Daniels though...
BIS probably brough them in a lot of money in the past, and had the potential to bring in loads more. More things along the lines of Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, all of that stuff could have if they let them, plus whatever else they might have been cooking up...
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Post by: Vilkacis on December 11, 2003, 09:54:46 am
Well Baldur's Gate, Fallout, etc... may be good games but did they actually sell that well compared to an average console game? I mean if you were Interplay would you bother to run a PC based developer team if you could have one or two newbie console developers instead who would also bring in more cash?
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Post by: Woolie Wool on December 11, 2003, 10:12:18 am
I have a feeling Intardplay will not be around much longer. I haven't been monitoring Interplay much, but generally cancelling many products in a short period of time is a sign of big, big problems.

What happens to the FS rights if Interplay goes under?
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Post by: karajorma on December 11, 2003, 10:54:34 am
Probably nothing considering that they claim not to own them in the first place :D
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Post by: Kazan on December 11, 2003, 11:10:34 am
yes the FreeSpace universe copyrights are in de facto abandonment... I should make a formal claim on them and assume the copyrights :D
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Post by: kasperl on December 11, 2003, 11:11:44 am
do so be all means, please.
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Post by: Liberator on December 11, 2003, 11:17:59 am
It appears that Intercrap has joined the ranks of the console zombie and decided to become console centric.  

That leave us with Ubisoft, EA, Sierra and Atari as the major game publishers for the PC and two of those are known to release crap like Britney Spears this or NASCAR that.  

There are so few decent PC games on the horizon, it's kind of depressing.:sigh:
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Post by: Woolie Wool on December 11, 2003, 11:24:57 am
Activision and Gathering of Developers publish some PC titles.

I think simulation games and big-name first-person shooters will dominate the PC market for the forseeable future. Simulation games are too complex and have too many controls to work well on consoles and FPSes have a large number of modders who will always be source of profits in the industry.
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Post by: Blaise Russel on December 11, 2003, 11:31:19 am
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Well, it is fact that Black Isle wasn't getting them as much greenbacks as they'd like. CRPGs are a rather niche-genre.


That, and Interplay messing everything up all the time.

How smart is it to lose the rights to the next big thing that your CRPG development team is working on? 'Cause that's what Interplay did with BIS' Jefferson project. Why, if the idiot who came up with that wonderful idea was here right now, I'd say "Smart move, Captain Fantastic, you certainly can't be outsmarted by a bowl full of three-week-old dead yeast."

But he isn't, so I won't.
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Post by: karajorma on December 11, 2003, 11:35:25 am
Well if Interplay have given up on Black Isle what's to stop them approaching Wizards of the Coast directly and saying "Hey, we've got a killer half written D&D game for you"?
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Post by: Nico on December 11, 2003, 11:37:52 am
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Originally posted by Woolie Wool
Activision and Gathering of Developers publish some PC titles.


Didn't GoD disappear a couple years ago already?
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Post by: Gloriano on December 11, 2003, 11:48:55 am
they are alive

http://www.godgames.com/
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Post by: magatsu1 on December 11, 2003, 02:48:28 pm
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"Hey, we've got a killer half written D&D game for you"? [/B]


"No Thanks! Rather do our own game than finish someone elses!"

That's what I'd say. Maybe.
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Post by: Blaise Russel on December 11, 2003, 02:50:38 pm
Plus JE Sawyer mentioned that Jefferson was rather dark compared to WotC's guidelines for D&D adventures. That was one of the reasons he let it go; he'd rather not do it than let WotC gut it and turn it into a saccharine sickly-sweet Famous Five adventure.
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Post by: karajorma on December 11, 2003, 03:13:42 pm
That's a pity. D&D is at its best when it's dark.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on December 11, 2003, 06:46:51 pm
That would be why they print out dozens of fair to thickish books consisting solely of lists of creepy things that gnaw the top of your head off, yes. And why basically the entire freakin' planet is trying to kill you out of sheer spite in any given game.

They ain't Lovecraft (more's the pity, I'd actually be interested in a scary tabletopper. I think.), but it's pretty silly to say that much is "too dark" for D&D.
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Post by: Falcon on December 11, 2003, 06:59:37 pm
I thought Interplay went bankrupt years ago? Or is that just my thoughts? :drevil:  

Hard Light Productions owners of Freespace. Better than Interplay. :D
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Post by: deep_eyes on December 11, 2003, 08:55:33 pm
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Originally posted by Thorn
someone get me the coordinates for the Interplay offices... I've got an old Russian missile with their name on it..


Coordinates X: 10345.2763 Lognitude

Y: 3746294.3758 Latitude

How bug is the yeild?
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Post by: Grey Wolf on December 11, 2003, 09:00:48 pm
BIS really started dying after Bioware, who developed the engines for all their games, jumped ship to Atari. It appears Bioware can survive without BIS, but BIS can't survive without Bioware....
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Post by: Ace on December 11, 2003, 09:51:19 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
That would be why they print out dozens of fair to thickish books consisting solely of lists of creepy things that gnaw the top of your head off, yes. And why basically the entire freakin' planet is trying to kill you out of sheer spite in any given game.

They ain't Lovecraft (more's the pity, I'd actually be interested in a scary tabletopper. I think.), but it's pretty silly to say that much is "too dark" for D&D.


WoTC has a bunch of guidelines for liscensed products about how good must prevail in the end or if evil wins it must be a phyrric victory, etc. etc. *sigh*
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Post by: Liberator on December 11, 2003, 10:49:55 pm
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WoTC has a bunch of guidelines for liscensed products about how good must prevail in the end or if evil wins it must be a phyrric victory, etc. etc.


That's pretty funny!
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Post by: Stryke 9 on December 11, 2003, 11:28:35 pm
Ah. How lame.
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Post by: diamondgeezer on December 12, 2003, 09:11:53 am
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Originally posted by Thorn
Was it absolutely necessary to mention that DG?

Oh sorry, are we still doing that whole 'sore point' thing when FS3 is mentioned? I thought everyone had gotten bored of that. My bad.