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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: magatsu1 on December 16, 2003, 03:40:33 pm

Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: magatsu1 on December 16, 2003, 03:40:33 pm
1: I haved to spend like 20 minutes with the title screen before anything happens.
2: When i enter a vehicle and "Wildstyle" radio station is on, the game locks up.

it takes a load of wacking the eject button to unlock my rig, then eventually I can play minus music or speech in the cut scenes.
(the disc works fine on my old machine, so it's not that.)

specs:
2 ghz P4
1ghz sdram
Geforce4, ugh, MX

any ideas anyone ?
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: Flipside on December 16, 2003, 04:06:19 pm
Not the GeForce 4 :)

Are you using an Audigy s/card? I had movie/radio problems, though no problems loading with one of those.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: IceFire on December 16, 2003, 04:21:43 pm
That GeForce 4MX may be causing your troubles.  I'm not sure but doesn't the game make heavy use of DX8 features?  Ie.....stuff that the GeForce 4 MX doesn't do.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: Triple Ace on December 17, 2003, 09:28:05 am
If you have PS2 get it for Ps2 it is less buggy.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: 01010 on December 17, 2003, 12:54:22 pm
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Originally posted by Triple Ace
If you have PS2 get it for Ps2 it is less buggy.


What are you talking about? Vice City runs perfectly and there isn't a single bug in the PC version that isn't in the PS2 version. Have you tried defragging your HD magatsu? It makes a huge difference where VC is concerned.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: magatsu1 on December 17, 2003, 01:37:39 pm
the g4 wasn't my choice....

I think it's more a prob. with the drive.
I get the "not responding" message with Task manager.
I'l try de-fragging my hard disk.
Try the easy stuff first right ?


many thanks!
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: 01010 on December 17, 2003, 02:14:15 pm
Try copying all the adf files off your CD into the sounds directory and aquiring a No-Cd crack. That should solve the CD reading problem.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: magatsu1 on December 17, 2003, 02:27:53 pm
No-Cd crack ?
where would I find somethin' like that ?
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: diamondgeezer on December 17, 2003, 02:31:54 pm
The land of locked threads I imagine
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: magatsu1 on December 17, 2003, 02:37:28 pm
what, where this one is probably headin' ?:sigh:
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: Drew on December 17, 2003, 07:09:20 pm
a no-cd crack is quite legal if you have actually purchased the game.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: Triple Ace on December 18, 2003, 07:56:04 am
No-cd cracks are too hard too find. You also have to find the one that matches your version of the program. I have found some for mine but not many.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: IceFire on December 18, 2003, 08:36:37 am
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Originally posted by magatsu1
the g4 wasn't my choice....

I think it's more a prob. with the drive.
I get the "not responding" message with Task manager.
I'l try de-fragging my hard disk.
Try the easy stuff first right ?


many thanks!

Remember...GeForce 4 MX and GeForce 4 Ti are two totally comletely differently separate cards.  The Ti one probably wouldn't give you problems but the MX will...its the same as a GeForce 2 GTS with new packaging.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: magatsu1 on December 18, 2003, 12:11:04 pm
I'm gonna sod it off and get a 9600pro eventually anyway.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: Flipside on December 18, 2003, 12:45:42 pm
I'm running Vice City on a MX440, without a single problem on it, never have had any with the Video Card, however, as I said earlier, the Audigy Soundcard was another matter.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: magatsu1 on December 18, 2003, 02:59:48 pm
I didn't get to choose my GPU, what's your excuse ?:D
Don't know what sound card I'm runnin' at the mo...
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: Flipside on December 18, 2003, 03:32:41 pm
LOL Mine came as part of the package and, to be honest, I plan to upgrade as soon as possible too ;)

Flipside :D
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: vyper on December 18, 2003, 03:50:13 pm
[q]a no-cd crack is quite legal if you have actually purchased the game.[/q]

*whips out software law notes from last Uni semester*

Is it hell. :p
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: diamondgeezer on December 18, 2003, 04:13:32 pm
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Originally posted by Drew
a no-cd crack is quite legal if you have actually purchased the game.

Really? Then why did Thunder lock my thread in the SCP forum asking for a build that was simply vanilla FS2 with the CD check removed?
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: vyper on December 18, 2003, 04:32:56 pm
Because the contract u agree to at installation says you cannot reverse engineer an application or alter it in any way.

Software contract law means you would be breaking those terms by applying a crack of any kind.

I should know I wrote a god damned 15 page essay on law and its application to our degree project.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: Kosh on December 19, 2003, 12:49:00 am
But you aren't reverse engineering it. Someone else is by doing the reverse engineering it. All you do is replace the exe with the *fixed* one.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: vyper on December 19, 2003, 09:38:51 am
You are simply using a tool to alter some protected (by the contract) component of the software -  thus u are as guilty as the man who wrote the crack.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: 01010 on December 20, 2003, 05:31:05 pm
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Originally posted by vyper
You are simply using a tool to alter some protected (by the contract) component of the software -  thus u are as guilty as the man who wrote the crack.


Yeah but using is nowhere near the same as writing. Your not doing any harm to anyone by using the crack if you own a legitimate copy of a game, it's a shade of grey really.
Title: GTA Vice City: Runs like s**t
Post by: vyper on December 20, 2003, 05:38:36 pm
Not in terms of British/European law anyway.