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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Omniscaper on December 25, 2003, 05:36:18 am
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Star Trek Ships
These are conversions of starships created for Bridge Commander by the Bridge Commander Modding community at BCFiles.com
The Latest TBL's can be downloaded here:
http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1716
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Aww man, an excellent Christmas present indeed. Thanks very much - I'll try and get some action shots soon :D
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And this is why this work is so great! Woo! ;7
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Whoa... somethin is not right with that picture, if your sovereign is firing that beam. I made a custum glow for the base of the beam. It should be called "phaserglow.jpg" under effects directory. Be sure to TURN ON jpg/tga in the LAUNCHER. I used a number of TGA's and JPG's as textures. Especially the quantum and photons.
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MMm, something was up with the overall settings - I need to fiddle. But the ship looks class doesn't it :)
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I see your using the UBER textures Excellent. Hows your framerate? PLease post all or any comments in the nodewar forum as well.
Remember this is a beta releaase and I am still working on aome TBL tweaks and still have damaged partsand debris to make.
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It's completely playable - though I only played the mission you packaged with the downloads. I'll stick a lot more ships / backgrounds / etc and see how things go :)
Edit: A little testing later - I get a solid 70FPS with one ship in a nubula. Time to add more to things and see what happens.
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I present the Beta release of our favorite Galaxy Class Starship!!!
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Galaxy.jpg)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Galaxy%20Class%20Beta.rar
Model/Texxtures - Scotchy
Additional Textures - Pneumonic81
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(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/133822/galaxyac.JPG)
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Guys wot version of Fred are you using to put these into missions? I keep getting pof reading errors.
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Use the Fred that came with the official build from the SCP website. I don't recommend having "show models" turned on when using the Galaxy in Fred. There are vertice issues that the game don't care for but Fred flips out about.
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Defiant Time.....
Heres a beta release of NINE OF NINE's Defiant conversion. The TBL needs some work. Its tough deciding whether or not to make it a bomber class or a cruiser class. Its an adequate TBL meesa thinks. Have fun.
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Defiant.jpg)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Defiant%20Class.rar
UPDATE: Version2 "Playable and returreted":
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/DefiantV2.rar
CrashFix (adds dock and path points)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/DefiantFix.zip
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Holy Sh*t! Is that the FS_Open! My god! It's beautiful!
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Soon all we'll need is a few light ships like Runabouts, Fighter shuttles (DS9 "The Maquis Pt.2", DS9 "Sacrifice Of Angels"), and Maquis raiders and we could have some cool actual missions. Perhaps thow in Intrepid and Exelcior classes for smaller engagements, use nebula with intense lightning to simulate (poorly) the environment of the badlands, and you've got a theater of engagment.
Later!
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Here you go folks, the playable Jemhadar Fighter. "Bugship" The model and texture is by NINE OF NINE.
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Bugship.rar
Crash Fix!!! (adds dock and path points)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/BugshipFix.zip
Version2 - With Shields (requires previous version) FIXED ARCHIVE!!
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Bugship2.rar
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Bug.jpg)
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Don't forget about those Maquis raiders (DS9 "For the Uniform", VOY "Caretaker"). If anyone plans on making a Maquis demo campaign for these new ships, they'll need the raider.
On another note, after my comments in the original Galaxy promo thread, post Defiant release, I decided to make some alterations to the table files. I added a shield strength of 1700 for the Defiant, and limited the primaries to just the pulse cannons, rather than the rest of the FS2 weapons. I also added descriptions for the Akira, Defiant, Galaxy, and Sovereign, which I basically just wrote off the top of my head, though drawing on things I remember reading about for each ship. I also added descriptions in the weapons table file for the Defiant pulse cannons, photon torpedoes, quantum torpedoes and the Sierra spread torpedo. I was surprised when turret and primary forms of the pulse cannons have some difference in dammage factors, and the quantum torpedo has no difference in dammage from the photon design. I guess you're concentrating on the visuals rather than dammage ballancing. I would however, suggest you create a second photon spread torpedo design, which is more like the MX-52, where 6 or so torpedoes are fired at the same time from one bay.
Later!
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Must must hook me up with a copy, need to see your solution.
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Klingon Bird of Prey
Beta-release
Model/textures: Pneumonic81
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/BOP.JPG)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/BOP.rar
Crash Fix!!! (adds dock and path points)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/BOPFix.zip
REQUIRED Weapons Addon!!!
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/GreenTorp.zip
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Wasn't there a Maquis fighter in one of the TNG episodes? The one where Ensign Ro defects?
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Are you psychic?! Thats what I'm working on!! Give me an hour! =)
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Didn't Nine of One do some models and such for ST: Armada?
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at least on that jem'hadar ship you've got smoothing turned up too high, might be that way on the Klingon ship
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Wasn't there a Maquis fighter in one of the TNG episodes? The one where Ensign Ro defects?
They're basically the Federation fighter shuttles, Periguine class I believe. Omni's probably also has plans to include this in his "Sacrifice Of Angels" remake. It'll probably play hell with framerates, so it might necessitate a scaling back of the scale of the mission... unless he'd got a AMD A-64 3400+ system.
That still leaves Cardassian attack ships, Keldon class (possibly), Dominion battle cruiser, Federation Exelcior, Sabre, Steamrunner, Norway, and possibly Intrepid, as well as Klingon battle cruiser (the one based off the old D7), Kovort (sp?) (larger BOP design), and possibly the Negh'Var classes to round out the mission with all classes necessary.
If you're trying to create some Maquis mission capability, I'd still suggest Exelcior and Intrepid, and Runabouts (2 models since sometimes they have the extra dorsal torpedo bank) for the Feds, as well as the Maquis raider, which I belive is based of the unamred Runner class, and possibly one or two transport & cargo vessels. It'd probably be a good idea to include the other Cardassian designs to round it out.
Later!
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Keep me on my toes why don't ya Mr. Trivial Psychic!
OK, here are the WIPS:
Peregrine (maquis)
Raider (Chakote's raider)
Runabout Danube
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The Federation Fighter "Peregrine"
Model/Texture - Zorg / Morpheus
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Screenshots/Danube2.JPG)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Peregrine.zip
Texture Upgrade (requires original download)
Delete or overwrite original VP
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Peregrine1_2.zip
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CRASH FIX!!!
The lack of path and dock points has been crashing the game. Here are the fixes.
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/DefiantFix.zip
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/BugshipFix.zip
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/BOPFix.zip
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The latest TBLS can be found here:
http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1716
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That peregrine looks cell shaded in that pic...
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Model - Reddragon
Texture enhancements - Cpt. LC Amaral
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Danube.JPG)
Mission requires latest version of Jemhadar Fighter (check download section) and Galaxy Class.
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Danube.zip
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Beta Release - Vorcha Attack Cruiser
Model/textures - Activision
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Vorcha.JPG)
I had trouble getting information on weapon locations on this ship. If anyone could give me some pointers or refer some sites to go to, I would be grateful.
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Vorcha.rar
I am currently working on C2's Vorcha, which uses much higher resolution textures and beefier mesh. For now, heres Activision's stock model for Bridge Commander.
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These are something special, dude. I christen thee Omniscaper Giftwrapping Limited. Welcome to the highlights. ;)
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COOL!!! Thanks galore.
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Well done. :yes: Keep up the excellent work!
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Wow, man, this is some high quality work here!!!!!!
About the Maquis ships tho, they not only used the Pergine fighter, they also used some kind of bulk freighter ship. (The one that Chakotay and crew used in the pilot of Voyager.) And, as far as I know, that was the only time it was used. Some pointless trivia, I know, but still, if you are going for completness, might as well know this.
And the Vor'Cha is quite an enigma when it comes to weapon placements on it. Because, every time you see one fighting, the only constant placement for weapons is the one in the nose of the ship. The rest of the time you just see disrupter and torpedo fire coming from random points on the ship..... Maybe you could take some creative liberties and place them where you think they make the most sense, as that is pretty much what the people did on the shows, lol.
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now im waiting for Steamrunner and Dominion Batlleship;7
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The Type II Maquis Raider - Beta release
This is the large version of the Maquis raider used by Chakote's crew.
Model/texture - Zorg / Morpheus
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Raider.jpg)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Raider.zip
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That be it. Man, you are quick with this stuff.
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3 words:
O - obsessive
C - cumpulsive
D - disorder
=)
Remember I am not building these. I am just transplanting them from the Bridge Commander Modding Community. A sort of , cross pollenation. Not to say that it is easy, but it would take much longer if I were to build them from scratch. Fighters are actually easy to convert because I don't have to deal with so many turrets and debris bodels. Of course I could add those too but I don't believe its that necessary.
School and work keeps me from going all out in original work. One original is in the design phase.
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Heck, as long as the people who originally created them don't mind you using them, it's a definitely plus for the rest of us - and it shows what the improved FS engine really can do!
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Here is the Bridge Commander stock model of SPACEDOCK
Model/Textures - Activision
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/SB1.JPG)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/SB2.JPG)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/SB3.JPG)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Spacedock.rar
**UPDATE** Version 2 is much larger. Still Can't fit the Enterprise D, but Version 3 with the Uber textures will be even bigger and will be finished shortly.
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/SpacedockV2.rar
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:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
OMG i can't say anythink just ..... WOWWWWWWW:eek2:
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:shock:
That thing is...............HUGE!!!!!!!!!
How many polys are we looking at????????
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that.......and i forgot to ask.........how did you get those ships inside it? :nervous:
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Ohhhh.... that is some brilliant work, you're really pushing the engine there. Nice one. :)
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Are you going to be doing the DS-9 station?
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hee hee
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Is that a yes?
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Steamrunner v1.0 (non-playable)
Model/Textures - Pneumonic81
I included Tricobalt torpedos like in StarTrek Armada. It only carries 4 but they pack quite a punch!
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/sr00.jpg)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Steamr.rar
You can also download DDS versions of the textures (faster load times and more colors). You'll have to delete the VP that came with it if you want to use DDS. If you're going to create missions in Fred (only uses PCX textures), keep the VP around.
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/SteamrDDS.rar
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non-playble.... i can assure you it will be playble in my freespace:D :D
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you can do it two ways..
First move the ships in FRED until they are IN the SB then save mission or
Second, position the ships frist and than position the SB over them.. like this
http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon/2-2-1-1057678559?m=0&pg=1&ro=1&co=0
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EARTH!!!
Finally finished a rough version for the masses.
Its comprised of 4 spheres totally 12,000 polygons (it will only grow from here). Spans only 25000 meters. Will increase in following releases but it will require the Inferno build.
I've made available 3 different levels of texture detail for her. The 512x512 textures are included in the first file. The other two: 1024x1024 and the UBER 2048x2048 are being uploaded now.
So far it has subtle rotating layers of clouds and shadows. I'm still researching the possibility of planetary glow. If anyone can throw some ideas out, I'm all ears.
These pics don't remotely do it justice.
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Earth1.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Earth2.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Earth3.jpg)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Earth_v1.zip (http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Earth_v1.zip)
**Extract and overwrite previous DDS files in the maps folder to use these:
1024x1024 Textures
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Earth_Med.rar (http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Earth_Med.rar)
2048x2048 Uber Textures
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Earth_Uber.rar (http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/Earth_Uber.rar)
There is a single mission included with it, but just incase you don't have the Trek ships,
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/EarthTest.fs2 (http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/EarthTest.fs2)
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Mmmm. Nice.
Only thing I can complain about is the lack of a glow and the fact that the lighting does not give it sharp enough shadows.
Otherwise.
:cool: :yes:
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Has anyone done a Borg cube?
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I've found a few unfinished Borg models over at Sectorgame, but they're rather basic.
Hey Omni, I had a cool idea for your Earth model, or basically any planet that can be modelled in this way. Have cities on the planet's surface encompassed as subsystems of the model. Then if a ship does some orbital bombardment, they can be made to target those subsystems. It'd be even cool of each city's glowmap textures would be tied into the subsystem, so that when that city is destroyed, it won't glow anymore. Combine this with a beefed up version of Bob's dammage decals (which was I think, suggested in another thread) you could also have a big scar left behind. Cool eh?
Later!
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I am in shock. And awe. Wow.
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Yegads... real moving clouds? Nice... :eek2::yes: Welcome to the highlights!
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Simply stunning! Great work!
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beautiful.. just beautiful:eek2: :yes:
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That Earth is really, really sweet. The best in a videogame ( that I've seen, at least ) yet, should I say.
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/sr00.jpg)
:wtf:
There's Doom demon heads in the engines :p
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Originally posted by Nico
:wtf:
There's Doom demon heads in the engines :p
:lol: He's right. A cookie? ;)
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yeah, a "visual" one, if you get what I mean ;) ( no, not a photo of a cookie :p )
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There isn't enough of smilies to represent how good that looks :D
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She's absolutely beautifull. Great work! :nod:
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In Klingon Academy, if your ship has appropriate weapons you can target locations on the planet in your targeting computer.
Someone programmed a mission with Earth having the following targets: George and Gracie (the sperm whales), Saddam Hussien (in Baghdad), and a Terrorist training camp (in Afghanistan)... :cool:
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They would have to be sub systems
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Omniscaper why are your FPS down to 9 in the first picture
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Holy smokes!!! Thanks for the highligh.
Redmenace, the computer I was using was a comptent 2.56ghz with a Geforce4MX (a joke of a graphics card and a glorified Geforce2). I was running at 4x speed just to get to that distance. Don't fear a performance hit if you have at least a similiar computer spec. The model is 12k poly.
If you folks are having a major performance hit, I could make a low end version without the extra 3 spheres (2x cloud layer 1x cloud shadows). That should cut it down to 3k polys.
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UPDATE:
The Galaxy Class may get an EXTREME facelift. Scotchy is nearing completion of the model. The one I converted was only his BETA version with texture placeholders from Pneumonic81's Galaxy to cover incomplete sections. Here is a link to his current progress.
http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~bridgecommander/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14340
Also the Romulan VALDOR may be coming to Freespace shores soon. I'll have to put a hold on a public release till its creators releases it for Homeworld2 (creator directive). Of course I get to play around with it till the green light is given for public release. Hehe.
Textures by Redragon and the mesh is by Nowedar.
http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~bridgecommander/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14193&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
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Hotdamn...
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Does anyone have a ZIP with ALL the star trek models in them so I can get it all at once?
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Ah, all those perfectly good model makers wasting their time on those stupid frying pans...
:nervous:
"runs away from murderous mob"
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
Holy smokes!!! Thanks for the highligh.
Welcome, this is worth it you know. Been wanting something like this for years. :)
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how do i use the DDS textures? like activate them? everytime i try using the model ingame it crashes... did i have to select something in the Launcher?
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*sighs* again: Does anyone have a ZIP with ALL the star trek models in them so I can get it all at once?
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
UPDATE:
The Galaxy Class may get an EXTREME facelift. Scotchy is nearing completion of the model. The one I converted was only his BETA version with texture placeholders from Pneumonic81's Galaxy to cover incomplete sections. Here is a link to his current progress.
http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~bridgecommander/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=14340
Why are none of the pictures showing up?
Tin Can: I don't. :p
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okay, this has been asked before, but i'd like to get all those starships, etc in one neat little package..:)
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workin on it. if you think this is bad, you should see my painting studio!
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lol
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Originally posted by deep_eyes
how do i use the DDS textures? like activate them? everytime i try using the model ingame it crashes... did i have to select something in the Launcher?
We're still waiting for full support on DDS textures... but umm, ask around at the SCP forum for better directions, I say... :)
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Originally posted by Setekh
We're still waiting for full support on DDS textures... but umm, ask around at the SCP forum for better directions, I say... :)
in other words it works for some, and not others?
or is it a system requirements issue (to ur knowledge)?
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N00B ALERT!
How do I get the Earth textures to work? Especially in FRED?
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You're suppose to extract what ever texture version you downloaded into the Data/maps directory.
It will not work in fred unless you get the DDS plugin for Adobe Photoshop from the Nvidia website and convert it to PCX. Fred only reads PCX textures. I don't recommend using PCX in game because you lose ALL transparent effects and it will suck up all texture memory from your graphics card. All you will see is a black and white cloud sphere. You should just use PCX to to see it in Fred then move the PCX files OUTSIDE the Freespace2 directory so that the game uses the DDS and not the pcx. (pcx has priority in Freespace, so if you have two same name files, one DDS and the other PCX, the game will pick the PCX)
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Elaborate a little more clearly as to how I get these textures to work correctly. :lol:
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Any .dds files in the file(s) you've downloaded goes into the Freespace2/data/maps directory. That should get it running in the game. If you want to see it in Fred is a more complicated issue. Since Fred uses ONLY PCX files, and in-game should use ONLY the dds files when using the Earth model.
I can convert the DDS to pcx for you, I'll have it up in an hour. Put the PCX files in the same directory as the DDS's. Once you download them, use it to see what you're doing in fred. After you finish Fredding, get rid of the PCX files, so the game uses only the DDS.
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Alrighty then. :D
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
Any .dds files in the file(s) you've downloaded goes into the Freespace2/data/maps directory.
Dude, are you expecting everyone's FSO to support DDS? I've had mixed results at best in the past. :o
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As long as the DDS file doesn't have a PCX counterpart, DDS runs great. I've been using the DDS format since the December FSO builds. Thanks to DDS, this earth model became possible. Since it supports alpha channels AND compression, I am able to use uber-sized textures without hogging all video memory as TGA's do. I could have done the cloud transparencies using PCX's with green masks, but there would have been no gradiation in transparency. It would have been either opaque or invisible, and no subtle transparencies.
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Indeed, and that's the most impressive part of it - the clouds look... what's the word? Seamless. Okay, I've gotta give this another go. :)
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Originally posted by Setekh
Indeed, and that's the most impressive part of it - the clouds look... what's the word?
Antialiased.
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Earth and Mars skyboxes
These are transparent skyboxes with a background POF. I just couldn't stand not having planetary glows, so I conceeded into making these instead. It has no moving parts like the Earth model, which should be good news to alot of people without PC horsepower. However, 1x 2048x2048 texturemaps are used by each skybox.
The mission requires the runabout. If you want to incorporate these into your missions you'll need the latest FredOGL. It should be under background editor, just type the POF name in the slot.
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Eb01.JPG)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Mb01.JPG)
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/EarthMarsSB.rar
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DANG! God created some beautiful planets. You got a pretty sweet duplication there, too, I might add. :p ;)
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do Europa!
I LOVE Europa
coolest looking moon/planet in the solar system
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Originally posted by Bobboau
do Europa!
I LOVE Europa
coolest looking moon/planet in the solar system
You'd also have to do a Jupiter at the same time, since it's close enough to be quite imposing... and Lightspeed's gas giant just doesn't look Jupitery enough for the task.
Later!
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Originally posted by Sandwich
DANG! God created some beautiful planets. You got a pretty sweet duplication there, too, I might add. :p ;)
Well said. :D
Breathtaking, Lightspeed. Adjust the star colour in the mission to reflect the planet a little better if you can. :)
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Ooooo....
Is that an Akira class I saw there inside the station? Thats my favorite class and I'd hate to see it missed if that wasn't one :D
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Akira was released while back. You can find it here.
http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1680&pagenumber=1
I'm still trying to organize all the ships in one pack.
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These ships look really sexy omni... I'm having a slight problem, however.
where are the weapons?! :( I can't use the ships because I haven't got the needed files for weaponary... such as photon.pof. *cries*
Where would I find these...? I wanna blow up colossus with my defiant. ;7
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Hey, welcome to HLP, TMC. :) Where did you pop up from?
:welcome:
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Me? Well, I've been in the community since FS2 came out... my name was Greywolvesleader (on sectorgame) and my name here was 67 GW leader or something... but I forgot my password, so I went "meh" and started a fresh.
PS: After downloading all this FS2_open stuff and enhancements... FS2 is making my cry with joy.
PPS: Thanks for the welcome Setkth... but those bfgreens hurt like hell, I'll have you know.
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Originally posted by TMC
Me? Well, I've been in the community since FS2 came out... my name was Greywolvesleader (on sectorgame) and my name here was 67 GW leader or something... but I forgot my password, so I went "meh" and started a fresh.
PS: After downloading all this FS2_open stuff and enhancements... FS2 is making my cry with joy.
PPS: Thanks for the welcome Setkth... but those bfgreens hurt like hell, I'll have you know.
You know there's a "Password Forgotten" link, right? :p
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I do indeed.
However, it's been a long while since I logged in with that name, so I can't remember how I spelled it. (I'll go check just the now) and I think my email adress has changed like 4 times since I was last here.
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Whee, I managed to salvage my old persona. :ha:
Anyway, with the help of omni, I managed to get the pack working. (I hadn't downloaded the akira class, which contained the phasers and photons... hehe...) Great job, dude. Peregine is a beauty to fly like a madman. :)
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Ahh, that's more familiar. Welcome back. ;)
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yeah, he has a custom title and everything
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Hehe, nice one. Now stop walking on me.:lol:
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My God, excellent work with all the new Star Trek texture, gang. To quote a phrase:
"Impressive. Most impressive." :drevil: :thepimp:
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Sigh* I've been spending my Friday combining ALL of these packs together, the Earth_V1 one contains table data for apparently all ships released prior to it, so I am combining them in this order. This list will make it easy for people to know the order without having to read this thread over and over from start to finish. These are in order of post in this thread.
Akira
Sovereign
Galaxy Beta
Defiant Class
DefiantV2
DefiantFix
Bugship
BugshipFix
Bugship2
BOP
BOPFix
GreenTorp
Peregrine
Peregrine1_2
Danube
Vorcha
Raider
Spacedock
SpacedockV2
Steamr*
SteamrDDS
Earth_V1
Earth_Med
Earth_Uber
EarthTest.fs2
EarthMarsSB
*at the end of all this, Steamr data won't be in ships.tbl anymore (after installing the Earth parts). to get Steamr back, open separately the ships.tbl included with Steamr, and copy the "USS Appalachia" to the final ships.tbl you ended up with after all the copying.
Dammit...
OFFTOPIC ---- if any FSO people are reading this, for the love of terrans, modding, vasudans, shivans, vulcans, and green people with 7 arms, SEPARATE SHIPS.TBL INTO ONE TABLE FILE PER SHIP, not one for all ships. Volition's ships.tbl is driving me INSANE!!!!! Seriously, doesn't it make a lot more sense to have files separated for each ship, rather than have one bloated file that is hard to update?
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Thanks alot Gregster!!! I've been so busy with school and an upcoming open studio exhibition. I"m NOT dead folks. I have a barage of ships on its way once I get done securing my fine arts career.
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"We've got a barage of incoming fire from the enemy sir. They appear to be firing... MY GOD!!! They're firing SHIPS at us!!"
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Heh...in case anyone's wondering im NOT going to offer this combined pack I've created, for download. Reason being, the thing is bloated at over 100MB and even if i compress it I doubt I'll have the webspace or the time (even at DSL speeds) to upload that thing anywhere...
Make it yourself people, not hard just very tedious...Omni kinda made some of the folders not match up properly, so be very careful with those DATA directories!
:D
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I apologize for the head aches people. I'm not so experienced with being a one man team with this kind of a project. Every other project has a team of folks who are well organized. I was and still am obsessed with just getting the conversions out to this community, that organization became less paramount. Summer vacation is coming up soon, so prepare yourselves for another barrage of Trek ships and better organizations.
Until then, please bear with me, or HELP ME with this project.
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Originally posted by Gregster2k
I doubt I'll have the webspace or the time (even at DSL speeds) to upload that thing anywhere...
Webspace = Fileplanet or Swooh. Time = overnight. :nod:
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What help do you need, Omni?
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would helping to package all ships released thus far into a single .vp file help?
Edit: never mind, its been done as above, so no need.
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Basic prioritizing and organizing of model conversions, hardpointing, and release. There are so many elements in a Trek release, from weapon effects, sound effects, balanced hardpointing...etc.
I've spent so much time just converting/modifying/remaking the Bridge Commander models/textures (there are so much more to convert). There are other areas that deserve as much attention and time such as deciding the canon features of each ship which is another research job that takes hours to do and hours to implement and MORE hours to revise for balance.
Proper release structure is another issue. Many of these ships would go through revisions that require TBL overhauls and texture replacements. I do not know the best way to release a ship that is easy to update without confusion. TBL stats are difficult enough to keep changing.
All these models are basically useless unless missions are designed for them. All my efforts are put into conversion and polish. With the time I have left, I just whip up quick missions that are devoid of any complexity that it deserves.
I just wish there was already an existing team for a Trek Conversion project so I could just concentrate on getting the ships out there and let others handle its TBLs, missions, and organized releasing.
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Yeah, you need a manager. :p Well, ask if anyone wants to start up a TC project with you. :)
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Danube Runabout v2.0
Model/Textures - Sean Kennedy
Mesh Modifications - me
I've been busy with school lately its tough keeping up with you folks. Anyways I'm finishing up on some weapons placement on this baby. I don't care if she's small, she deserves all 11k polys.
Old....
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/Danube.JPG)
New....
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/run01.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/run02.jpg)
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/ReleasePics/run03.jpg)
Version 2
http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/DanubeV2.rar
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Sweet, though with things like that I can't help but woder if the polycount could be halved without noticable effect. After all, like you said, she's small. :p
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Indeed. I apologise, but I can't see enough difference to justify dropping 60 FPS on one ship alone. ;)
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Actually, the bussard ram scoops needed the improvement (am I a geek or what? :p), but the rest looked very reasonable. :)
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Heh...not even my brand new Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB DDR can handle the test mission with lots of ships flying around a starbase in orbit around the hyper-realistic earth model...well...it can...but...when the earth model is in view framerate becomes very unstable. I'm using the UBER textures, but hey, I love uber textures...heeheeeee...seems to have lots of z-fighting on the earthmodel though, flickering clouds and all. still having problems finding a build that renders dem skyboxes perfectly...skyboxes rule, no framerate drop with perfect-looking earth clouds...mmmmmmmm...do these things have LOD models?
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Well. its nice to see that a 6 year old game can do that to a current gen video card. No LOD's though, so sorry. If anything, these Trek releases are benchmark worthy.
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Omni, what're your specs again?
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
Well. its nice to see that a 6 year old game can do that to a current gen video card. No LOD's though, so sorry. If anything, these Trek releases are benchmark worthy.
HAHAHAHAHA...imagine that, if FSO gets "perfect" enough, people could use the high-res-uber-textured Omniscaper ship tests to benchmark their cards against one another...rofl...FSOMarks anyone? ;7 :nod:
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Xeon P4 2.66ghz (single CPU) 533mhz bus
Supermicro x5dal-g mobo
1gb Crucial PC2100 ddr ram
Ati Radeon 9500 pro 128mb ddr (agp 8x)
Audigy 2
I built it for video editing purposes and CG media creation. Of course game play is the icing on the cake. I do weep that the high-end consumer grade CPU's now support hyperthreading and have an increased in bus bandwith with their 800 mhz. And its cheaper too. Of course I have the option of plugging in another CPU, an option unavailable to many mobos.
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Ahh, cool. So aside from the sheer power of the CPU, my (future) new system should get higher performance all across the board.
Athlon XP 3000+ 400Mhz FSB
1Gb PC3200 DDR400
ATi Radeon 9800 Pro (the Hightech / HIS brand - just look at the cooling system on that baby (http://www20.tomshardware.com/firstlook/20031210/index.html)!
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Keep in mind, there are different kinds of performance.
For a gaming rig, its all about realtime bandwidth (mobo bus + memory speed) and multiple processor power (cpu+gpu+spu).
Video editing and CG media creation, its all CPU and what ever specialized card can do to help (matrox or Quadro)
Be aware that ATI and Nvidia got new stuff coming very soon. www.3dchipset.com
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I'll try and see what I can do regarding actually RELEASING the multiship pack. Right now, I've got everything in the pack EXCEPT for the latest Danube that Omni just uploaded and the pack is also missing all Steamrunner data (easily fixable). The main bugger that's getting me is the photon torps' glow images are offset from the actual red torp model and I don't remember them being offset when I first started working with these models.
Favored FS2_Open build is fs2_open_env2 (Environment Mapping build version 2).
Also, I installed the EarthMarsSB (Skyboxes) test missions but only Mars works, Earth doesn't. I'm pretty sure I was the one who screwed it up somehow, but I'm not sure.
Omni, what is your favorite testing build for your ship pack? Can you point me to it? (i'll look thru this thread just in case, but....)
Also, I'm going to be making the Mega/Uber textures be the default texture sizes. Other texture sizes will be provided with zips.
Don't expect it to happen very soon, though, as 1) I'm lazy, 2) I got lots of schoolwork to deal with these days, 3) I hate fileplanet a LOT and if Swooh is even remotely similar...RRGGGGGHHHH! :)
I still wish ship tables were for individual ships not one huge megafile. or at least, i wish we could have additive tables, table files that, when activated as a mod, are added to -- or temporarily override the entries of the FS2 main ships.tbl...
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This is a great thread, but it's time for it to be unstickified. :)
So you posted in it why? ;) // Sandwich
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So people would know where it went :D
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Too much (http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/bump.gif)
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I got my torpedoes from retail Trek into SCP Trek. I think they look good. Here is a screenshot, it does look better in game keep in mind.
My only question is HOW can I make the pic smaller? reducing image size helps to make the trop crisper as it bunches the pixels together BUT it doesn't really reduce the effect of the size, like I can do with the torps in retail as there thery are primaries and you edit size in the table???
The Galaxy is firing red photons, the BOP is using Klingon/Rom Green, adn the Bug is firing Quantums.
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/getter_robo_g_2004/detail?.dir=/a628&.dnm=632b.jpg
thoughts? (Especially from you Omni?)
BTW Can I use your Peregrine fighter, and BOP (wings down)?, they work great in retail (though I need to test the Maquis Raider), I would like to use that too cause in reality it's just a texture change from the one I am using now... (my textures as too BLUE) your are more "used"...
ALSO I LOVE your shield meshes!!! They're GREAT!
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I am just a transplant artist. All these models were made from scratch by those I've credited in the readme.txt's. As long as its original creators are credited, I'm allowed to use them. That goes for anyone else who would like to canibalize these models.
Update:
Scotchy's final Galaxy model in the smoothgrouping phase now. I'm having difficulties organizing smoothgroups for this one. I normally handly the smoothing in Max. Any tips wopuld be helpfull.
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/WIPS/Gsmooth.jpg)
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Originally posted by karajorma
So people would know where it went :D
Indeed. ;) Inexplicably disappearing threads are A-4 Annoying. ;)
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
I am just a transplant artist. All these models were made from scratch by those I've credited in the readme.txt's. As long as its original creators are credited, I'm allowed to use them. That goes for anyone else who would like to canibalize these models.
Update:
Scotchy's final Galaxy model in the smoothgrouping phase now. I'm having difficulties organizing smoothgroups for this one. I normally handly the smoothing in Max. Any tips wopuld be helpfull.
(http://www.penguinbomb.com/omniscaper/WIPS/Gsmooth.jpg)
*bump* Not enough people saw this. :)
That model is movie-worthy. Hands-down. Send Scotchy kudos. ;)
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Cool:)
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saw it last time already....MOST IMPRESSIVE
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OK folks... I really need help with this one. I just spent days completing the smoothgroups for this model in 3dsmax. All that effort seems to have been made in vain the second I exported it to a .3ds format. Its not Truespace's fault either. I opened the same .3ds file in max and ALL my smoothgroups are MESSED UP. Does the .3ds format allow the use of smoothgroups?
This is REALLY getting annoying. I'm ready to compromise by NOT making this model a single integrated mesh and making all 22 smoothgroups seperate meshes to to keep the shading correct. It will definitely be an INEFFICIENT model and HT&L will be effected.
Can someone point me to a good tutorial for creating smoothgroups in TRUESPACE (I hate this program).
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It's a limitation of the .3ds format I believe.
Can you get to truespace via another format? (Even if you have to use lith or 3D exploration).
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yeah, 3ds files supports smoothgroup, so I don't know the problem.
ANyway, I should point out that no matter what you do, PCS will put an autosmooth at 45° ( ar at least that's what woomeister told me ), so...
Btw, You're not forced to have 22 smooth groups, just put together parts that are not physically connected, and give them the same one.
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Originally posted by Nico
ANyway, I should point out that no matter what you do, PCS will put an autosmooth at 45° ( ar at least that's what woomeister told me ), so...
that's right (almost) but at least it'll fix the shadings errors that comes by applying a general shader to a complex mesh.
To apply a smoothgroup you'll just need to select the faces and paint them using a different shaders. No more, no less:p
Pcs convert only faceted and autofaceted
Modelview convert only smooth and faceted
if the model will give some faceted shadings using specular effects you may want to try the internal converter of modelview
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Where can i download a packaged version (with all stuff in it)?
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Hello??:nervous:
No answer? :(
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As far as I know, there isn't one, unfortunately. You'll need to do a bit of table combining I'm afraid.
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Originally posted by Nico
yeah, 3ds files supports smoothgroup, so I don't know the problem.
ANyway, I should point out that no matter what you do, PCS will put an autosmooth at 45° ( ar at least that's what woomeister told me ), so...
Btw, You're not forced to have 22 smooth groups, just put together parts that are not physically connected, and give them the same one.
If 3ds supports smoothgroups, then why do I always lose them?
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Truespace kills it.
BTW, when did this thread get resurrected?
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Blame Overlord.
It doesn't show my smoothing groups in 3d exploration as a 3ds. *sigh* I need to get the Max plugin to work.
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@Omniscaper: When do you plan to make a packed version?
BTW, sorry i'm really interested in and i don't want to make a new thread about it.
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Dude, its cool. Sarcasm is tough to convey with text. I'm just surprised that Trek still has some of its fanbase lurking around in here (cept a hand full).
I have no plans to release a packed version till I'm finished making final versions of all the major ships. If you want all the ships I've released so far (xcept the Galaxy, almost done wth version 2), you'll have to get em one by one an up to date list can be found here
http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1680
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Sigh* I've been spending my Friday combining ALL of these packs together, the Earth_V1 one contains table data for apparently all ships released prior to it, so I am combining them in this order. This list will make it easy for people to know the order without having to read this thread over and over from start to finish. These are in order of post in this thread.
Akira
Sovereign
Galaxy Beta
Defiant Class
DefiantV2
DefiantFix
Bugship
BugshipFix
Bugship2
BOP
BOPFix
GreenTorp
Peregrine
Peregrine1_2
Danube
Vorcha
Raider
Spacedock
SpacedockV2
Steamr*
SteamrDDS
Earth_V1
Earth_Med
Earth_Uber
EarthTest.fs2
EarthMarsSB
*at the end of all this, Steamr data won't be in ships.tbl anymore (after installing the Earth parts). to get Steamr back, open separately the ships.tbl included with Steamr, and copy the "USS Appalachia" to the final ships.tbl you ended up with after all the copying.
Dammit...
OFFTOPIC ---- if any FSO people are reading this, for the love of terrans, modding, vasudans, shivans, vulcans, and green people with 7 arms, SEPARATE SHIPS.TBL INTO ONE TABLE FILE PER SHIP, not one for all ships. Volition's ships.tbl is driving me INSANE!!!!! Seriously, doesn't it make a lot more sense to have files separated for each ship, rather than have one bloated file that is hard to update?
Second that. Would be great if the tables wouldn't be such a mess... :rolleyes: Actually, what I've understood, modular tables actually are like this? Except that instead of a huge folder full of different ship entries it's more like a vp, one file containing other files... Ah, I don't relly know a lot about them anyway.
I worked out things according to that list. Akira and Sovereign worked out just fine (exept for some anomalous error when loading mission - t told me that I have no xwing.pof on my computer.). But then the trouble started. The Galacy_beta was no longer available, and there goes some worthy tables down the toilet. It just didn't work any more. I tried to install Galaxy_v09 instead of beta, but to no avail - my system actually froze so badly that I had to apply the engineer button (aka power switch) to restart the system...
And, by the way, in which order should Exelcior and Constitution be installed so that the tables would fit?
And where the HELL can one get a table that manages to use all these beauties as it should? You mentioned that Earth_v1.zip had tables that should work as such, ie. use all ships released before that... It doesn't, the only thing in the *.zip folder is earthl.pof , no tables, nothing more than that single model.
What makes things more annoying is that most error announcements actually relate to weapons.tbl. There's literally big heaps of them when I start FS2_Open with Trek mode activated... :mad:
What should be done is the following: Collect links to the files onto one place so that one doesn't need to scroll through conversation to find everything, and secondly, create weapons and ships tables that really work with all the ships released. With the tables provided with the ship releases, no one who is not into tables and generally Freespace2 (or superintelligent) can figure out how to make things work. I'm one of these people. It's all very well to have the Akira and Sovereign functioning properly, but it pisses me off not to be able to use all the other ships. And I have basically no time to start combining tables - ships.tbl might go somehow, but weapons.tbl is a bloody mess and there most errors occur. ARgh. I hate not being able to do these things myself... :(
Anyway, I hope that some day there'll be a one single pack of these ships
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Holy Massive Thread Neocromancy Batman.
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I know but I don't care. I want those ships working... :p
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"I see dead prjoects" :)
I'm sorry Trek dudes. Its been so long and so many releases for me to make the fleet compatible with today's builds. So many upgrades and additions to tables and coding stuffs. I believe some folks are making more additions and possible TBL solutions to the Trek fleet.
Check out their work here http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2129&page=3
I'm too busy working on the BSG (Anti-Trek) Project. When I finally get the time off I desperately need, I'll will get back on the Trek saddle and see if today's modern builds can finally handle the Dominion war scenario i was once trying to assemble.
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Unless we can convince you to model Serenity? >..>
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Unless we can convince you to model Serenity? >..>
That'd be cool, but doesn't suit itself very well to the FS style of engine. Unfortunately. :(
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I think as a one off it'd be absolutely awesome. I just got into Firefly over the Christmas break and kinda fell in love with that ship. I reckon she'd be about cruiser size.
Plus of course, the more random fingers we stick into sci-fi pies - the more exposure the engine gets. Everyone comes from far and wide to see the awesome Trek / BSG / B5 etc. models for the FS engine.
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Omni: huh...wait. Didn't I compile a ST ship pack a long time ago? I think I uploaded it someplace, and a few people PM'ed me for it.
If you want, I can re-upload it. It's got all the ships done in that list a few posts up, along with a modified .tbl that incorporates all the fixes and all the files together.
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That sounds interesting.
So, according to that list, there would be no Excelcior, Constitution or Miranda class ships in that package? Well, I s'pose I could live with that...
Please bring it on by all means, I'd like it very much!
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ok, im uploading the package.
If anyone wants, please PM me, as bandwidth is limited on GW, so I cant just give the linky out.
Thanks and regards,
Singh
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OK, just asking.. Did my posts of the Trek ships in progess get eaten??? I specifically rememebr a Trek oriented thread I showed some previews in. Forgive me if I am getting as senile as I am blind :confused:
Early refit Kirk Era breifing...
"The most logged number of 'disturbing the peace' in Federation systems involve smaller civillian craft.
Amoung these, the Orion designed light cargo hauler is the vessle of choice by various never-do-wells.
Don't be fooled by it's out-dated or decrepited appearance. Despite the age of the design many of these are state of the art on the inside. Cheap and warp capable is a very appealing choice for small businesses and citizens who want interstellar access (even if slow).
Should you meet a worst case scenario and actually run across a 'pirate', watch out for an old trick. They slow to impulse and make it look like you are about to overtake them and at a particular good moment lower their rear shield just long enough to eject cargo pods filled with explosives. This usually can be withstood by most shield systems , howerve, this gives teh Pirates a chance to either go back to warp and make a run for it OR turn and attack the weakened shield with their other weaponry which is usually non-consequencial (civillian adapted mining lasers, ect). Very few Pirates have actual stolen Phaser or Torpedo systems but still you should be aware of it."
(Orion Light Cargo Transport - A.K.A. Orion Light Raider)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/opltans1.jpg)
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I just notived the post about the error in mysql(?)...
Anyway, Aldo didn't you make this for Combat Federation. (I whipped up some glow maps cause I was bored)...
Banshee-F
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/Bansheef.jpg)
Always liked this one.
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Hey Kalifreth (I miss you God avatar/Thunder), should I make a new thread or stay in this one since Omni abandoned Trek modding?)
Some Patroling Winged Defenders spot Invading Klingons so they Harass them and call in soem heavy support, a wing of WhiteWind Cruisers!
Winged Defenders
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/rwdef.jpg
Romulan Whitewind (I have to tone down the bridge windows slightly but I nailed it almost dead on!)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/rwhitewind.jpg
Let the battle begin!!!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/Combat2.jpg
Who's having a bad day? HE IS!!!
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/combat1.jpg)
I was too lazy to arm the Klingons yet so it was a slaughter! ;7
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I'd go ahead and make a new thread mate. This thread was originally kicked off by Omni after all - people might be expecting him to be posting Trek ships but not you in here - so they'll miss the great updates. Plus it's quite an old thread. You may as well have one of your own.
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Is there a single package with all the ships done here so far? I think the link in the first post is now defunct. These look awesome!
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:necro:
Its been two years...lol
and as for your question, I don't know.
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Why did you bump this?
EDIT: Apparently Droid803 didn't bump it, the guy before him did...
I have no idea where the models went. You would've done better posting your own thread about it.
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Urr, sorry if I made it look like I did it. Got trigger happy with the beam there.
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Sorry about that. This thread was a link in the first page of the Freespace celebration thread. I'm a huge Star Trek and Freespace fan and have always wanted to adapt Freespace to do Star Trek stuff (especially awesome on the big screen TV ;7). I found a whole bunch of COB models somewhere, but no POFs or tables. If this thread is dead, I'll download the COBs and get to work converting them and put them in a new thread. Also, the textures in the COBs were crappish, but I'm not a texturer at all.
(Battery's almost dead... Good night!)
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Sorry about that. This thread was a link in the first page of the Freespace celebration thread. I'm a huge Star Trek and Freespace fan and have always wanted to adapt Freespace to do Star Trek stuff (especially awesome on the big screen TV ;7). I found a whole bunch of COB models somewhere, but no POFs or tables. If this thread is dead, I'll download the COBs and get to work converting them and put them in a new thread. Also, the textures in the COBs were crappish, but I'm not a texturer at all.
(Battery's almost dead... Good night!)
Getter Robo G is still working on the Star Trek mod as far as I know. Talk to him if you want to know where he's at.
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star trek mod would be great
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Noooooo! (in Kirk voice)
Hehe, When Omni abandoned Trek I got all the Dl's he did and permission to continue. However as I an not a modeler (just a minor converter/tweaker) thigns slowed to a crawl. I had way more success with fighters and some occasinal starship conversion but none of them were finished.
They stay in limbo until an actual team can be rallied around the existing files and put into a functional context.
That and screenshots to tease you all... ;7
Now if you goto SectorGame site , All the files Little Ludi converted are there for your (non-mod) usage. He converted a ton of stuff from various sources but never gave anyone credit at all. (either he figured it was all for personal use only or didn't care).
Note they are NOT fighter friendly, they are way too small (average 300m as per book numbers howefver fs2 craft are way bigger. Conversions I have done as sized appropriately for in game perspective from a single pilot POV)...
Penguinbomb MIGHT have a few of omni's Old links active... I'd be willing to dig into my archives for a fellow MODDER on condition you'd work on the files...
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Noooooo! (in Kirk voice)
Hehe, When Omni abandoned Trek I got all the Dl's he did and permission to continue. However as I an not a modeler (just a minor converter/tweaker) thigns slowed to a crawl. I had way more success with fighters and some occasinal starship conversion but none of them were finished.
I don't suppose i could have access to those files could I? not really looking to make a mod, but i love FS2 and trek.
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Sorry, not about to pack up and upload a few gigs of models, textures, and effects (most of which are wips) and then find a site that can handle it. not to mention spread out over 3 drives (two of which are disconected). I blew my savings on a desperately needed new comp and until Mr Bush and the IRS gives me my f-ing money I can't afford two external drive cases. :P in other words it's not worth the hassle (ATM),
Goto sector game and use the Ludi versions...
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Sorry, not about to pack up and upload a few gigs of models, textures, and effects (most of which are wips) and then find a site that can handle it. not to mention spread out over 3 drives (two of which are disconected). I blew my savings on a desperately needed new comp and until Mr Bush and the IRS gives me my f-ing money I can't afford two external drive cases. :P in other words it's not worth the hassle (ATM),
Goto sector game and use the Ludi versions...
Fair enough, i dont suppose you have any other federation fighter models besides the peregrine, runabout, or the type9 shuttle do you?
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Tell you what, I had other plans for this weekend and the next maybe, but my modding will eventually come back to Trek (I can feel it, resistance is futile!)
I will make a small pack out of the functioning ones but using fs2 weps. It'll be released in June sometime (I get a month leeway ). how's that?
Limited to Feds though cause I am not about to release teh Gorn and Roms and Pirates and etc......
Release one set you might as well release it all (see what I mean, a slippery slope)...
Screwing with the Valkyrie (massive errors):
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/fsif.jpg)
One of Adonni's models:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/FedTypeS4.jpg)
A VERY old screenie: My Static torpedoes (NOW ANIMATED!!!)
Yeah that's Greywolf's old Galaxy class... :P
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/Sci-Fi%20amp%20Anime/632b.jpg)
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looking GREAT man!!! :yes:
Any news to how this is progressing?
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Tell you what, I had other plans for this weekend and the next maybe, but my modding will eventually come back to Trek (I can feel it, resistance is futile!)
I will make a small pack out of the functioning ones but using fs2 weps. It'll be released in June sometime (I get a month leeway ). how's that?
Limited to Feds though cause I am not about to release teh Gorn and Roms and Pirates and etc......
Release one set you might as well release it all (see what I mean, a slippery slope)...
still planning for a June release?
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Ran into a problem, still hadn't gotten any help and the meshes I planned to use are broke (most of them cause crash when you shoot them). Thanks for hanging in there but same old same old. Now I focus my energy on new things I don't have to wait for help with...
Like the Stargate fan design Scarab (looks Vasudan huh?)
I have no way to contact the author though I got the word out that I'm looking for him on BC sites. I also did a texture swap from the brownish drab covering for one of his other models and I think it vastly improved it.
If things work out I hope to add 3-4 more of his models to JC's SG-1 project.
(Note it's JC4JC's project on GW, so don't expect any releases soon, but I keep a record of my efforts so if something happens later there is an archive.)
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One of Adonni's models:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/FedTypeS4.jpg)
I like this one, looks vaguely like a next-gen Venture corvette.
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Ran into a problem, still hadn't gotten any help and the meshes I planned to use are broke (most of them cause crash when you shoot them). Thanks for hanging in there but same old same old. Now I focus my energy on new things I don't have to wait for help with...
Like the Stargate fan design Scarab (looks Vasudan huh?)
I have no way to contact the author though I got the word out that I'm looking for him on BC sites. I also did a texture swap from the brownish drab covering for one of his other models and I think it vastly improved it.
If things work out I hope to add 3-4 more of his models to JC's SG-1 project.
(Note it's JC4JC's project on GW, so don't expect any releases soon, but I keep a record of my efforts so if something happens later there is an archive.)
Any chance i could get some of the stuff youve worked on then to see what i can get out of it by fooling with it? Over the past couple of months ive gotten a fair amount of trek stuff working but not alot. Any tables and ships you could give me (fighters i need badly) would be great. No one works on trek mods any more........ :(
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Well I'm getting pretty screwed right now, in fact for years. (apparently a lot of models I thought were broke might actuyally be fine. It's jsu somethign is preventign PCS2 from working right on my last 2 computers).
Kazan told me it was teh models but various people have taken a few of the uploads I left here and said it works fine for them so now I have no idea of what is truly broken and what has problems...
PCS2 can often handle meshes that pcs1 can't and since I am limited to PCS1/MV that almost puts me back to square one.
It's been a revealing weekend and a the most frustrating one to boot.
I means I need skilled help more than ever and that maybe I should just quit since things seem stacked against me despite the fact I've hung in there for years with deluded thinking "I can do it through sheer perseverance!"
and that would mean the progress I've made during that time is a joke!
:mad::hopping: :mad:
I've been watching GUNBUSTER to many times...
I'm very upset right now and don't even want to talk about "projects" for a while:...