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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bobboau on December 28, 2003, 07:03:11 pm

Title: Dvd R
Post by: Bobboau on December 28, 2003, 07:03:11 pm
I have just one question:
why the hell are DVD+/-R/RWs so god damned expensive, I just paid $25 for ****ing 10 of them, it's not like there's anyhting on them, just blanks to help pull my sister's crap off of my machine.
I did som math I can get 100 CDRs for $20 each CDR holds 700 MB of data, therefor it costs $0.02,857 to store 100mb of data on a CDR, the DVDR on the other hand cost nearly twice as much $0.05,319 ($25 / 10 / 4.7GB), I would expect it to be lower on a per byte basis, but I am sadly mistaken.
Is this just becase it is a relitivly new technology, or becase you can't burn stolen music to them and listen to them anywere(therefore lower demand), or is there some other (good) reason why they are so costly?
more importantly is there any indication that the diference in price is going to go down anytime soon?
and while I'm on the subject what's the difernce between DVD-R and DVD+R, other than you can hold the shift button down the whole time while typeing out the second one.
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Nico on December 28, 2003, 07:06:34 pm
You forgot? That taxe thinguy for the majors, to balance their loss because of piracy? The thing that you pay even if you never pirated in your life? Or maybe you don't have that in the States.
That pisses me off too anyway, for now I have a grand total of 6 DVD-R. I wouldn't bother if my shelves were not already full of CD-R :p
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Bobboau on December 28, 2003, 07:11:42 pm
wouldn't that effect CDR as much, if not more, than DVDR?
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Nico on December 28, 2003, 07:22:24 pm
I guess not.
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Martinus on December 28, 2003, 08:30:54 pm
[color=66ff00]I always considered it a manufacturing issue. New technology is immediately sold at a high price to make up for the costs incurred in setting up a production facility. The prices slowly drop as the technology becomes more mainstream and more units are sold. An unfortunate side effect of the way that marketing works in the western world.

Give it a few months and DVDR's will cost a lot less than they do now. Consider how high priced CDR's used to be. BTW I managed to get 25 disks for £18 so you probably bought them form someone who has hiked up the price a bit.
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Title: Dvd R
Post by: Bobboau on December 28, 2003, 08:39:56 pm
isn't the pound more than the dolar, I don't think I got ripped off too baddly,
how long have they been out now I would have tought the price would have gone down by now

and what is the diference between the + and - DVDRs
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Martinus on December 28, 2003, 08:45:26 pm
[color=66ff00]Actually I think £18 is worth around 22 to 25 dollars (estimate) so that's roughly 1 dollar for each disk which is a lot less than you had to pay. It really is a good idea to shop around, especially if you can shop via the internet. :nod:

The very first CD burner I bought was a 4 speed and it cost almost twice as much as it could have, the shop I bought it from put a healthy chunk of their own on top of the RRP but I didn't know this at the time and figured it was a good price. Research told me otherwise. :)
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Title: Dvd R
Post by: Bobboau on December 28, 2003, 08:48:29 pm
I went three places and this was about the lowest I could find
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Fury on December 28, 2003, 11:16:14 pm
Here in Finland 80 min CD-R 10-pack costs 10€ and DVD+R 10-pack costs 31€. (average prices) So I'd say DVD+R's are here a lot cheaper if you need to burn a lot of stuff. :) I have two DVD+RW recorders.
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Bobboau on December 28, 2003, 11:22:01 pm
never mind, thinking not... right
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Sandwich on December 29, 2003, 02:05:19 am
The plus and minus DVD formats are simply competing DVD writable formats, backed by different companies.
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Bobboau on December 29, 2003, 02:40:06 am
thats it, they arn't even makeing an atempt to give one format a percived advantage over the other?
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Kazan on December 29, 2003, 09:34:34 pm
wal mart
5 x memory dvd-r [or dvd+r take your pick], or 3x dvd+rw (all w/ cases)

~$12
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 29, 2003, 09:41:26 pm
And two of those (ten) would come out to $24.

Well, it's a buck less.





Anyway.




Does it matter? If you're paying for a DVD burner right now you have too much money in the first place. It's an industrial application not yet properly brought to the civilian market, a toy for rich bored people. Stick to CD-RWs.

Me, I'm still pissed they don't sell CD drives for those little cartridges that'd make your CDs look like immense floppy disks anymore.
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Bobboau on December 29, 2003, 10:24:35 pm
you have no idea how much crap is on my computer that I need to get rid of, I guess I could just delete it, but then I would have to put up with all the years of whining, not everyone is a machete master.

and I was getting a DVD player anyway, so I paid the extra $50 to get a burner. how was I to know that the blanks cost nearly as much as the hardwar it'self (other than looking two feet to the left the day I bought it).
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 30, 2003, 12:10:51 am
Put it all on CD-R, then. You can get like a squintillion of them for ten bucks.
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Bobboau on December 30, 2003, 12:33:22 am
yeah, that's true
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Stryke 9 on December 30, 2003, 12:35:42 am
When are they supposed to come out with those blue-laser CD burners, anyway?

Rich-kid toy or not, I want one of those. They kick ass.
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Nico on December 30, 2003, 06:28:24 am
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
If you're paying for a DVD burner right now you have too much money in the first place. It's an industrial application not yet properly brought to the civilian market, a toy for rich bored people. Stick to CD-RWs.


basically, now, you don't have much choice, I bought my laptop, it was either the DVDburner, either raping the thing with a screwdriver.
DVDburner it's been, then.

And the problem with the squintillion of CD-R, is that they take about the same room in cm3 :p
I managed to save 3/4 the room they're supposed to take ( put two of them in one slim case ), but still they're like a new paintjob in my room, they're everywhere on my shelves :p
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Odyssey on December 30, 2003, 07:29:33 am
[color=cc9900]Tape drive storage. Everyone loves tape drives.[/color]
Title: Dvd R
Post by: Fury on December 30, 2003, 08:28:09 am
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
You can get like a squintillion of them

That exactly is the biggest problem of regular CD-R's. You will eventually have more than enough of them, with DVD's, you will have 6 times less discs.