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Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: vyper on January 01, 2004, 06:59:41 pm
What is your CPU Temp?

Currently 46C here.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Fineus on January 01, 2004, 07:15:41 pm
59C.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Venom on January 01, 2004, 07:16:31 pm
i'm running a P4 3066 Mhz overclocked to 3150 Mhz and 548 FSB
and this is my normal Temperature
(http://www.o2go.de/sauron5000/misc/CPU.jpg)
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 01, 2004, 07:19:04 pm
omg, what kind of hot CPUs do you use?

and @ venom: funny that you overclock your processor to run slower :p de-syncing your FSB in that horrible way :nervous:
In any way, overclocking sucks.

38 °C here.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: aldo_14 on January 01, 2004, 07:20:37 pm
System; 41 C
CPU; 60.5 C
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Venom on January 01, 2004, 07:28:02 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Lightspeed
omg, what kind of hot CPUs do you use?

and @ venom: funny that you overclock your processor to run slower :p de-syncing your FSB in that horrible way :nervous:
In any way, overclocking sucks.

38 °C here.


run slower? explain it please

i overclocked via my Asus Mobo and i only could overclock all parameters....at least i think so:wtf:

once i set the FSB up to 140 (560) and my CPU runs nearly 3300 MHz....but i dont wanna overclock it to much:(
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 01, 2004, 07:31:32 pm
well, you see... my FSB runs at 800 MHz (200 MHz quad pumped), my memory (dual channeled) also runs at 800 MHz. If I would overclock my FSB to 866 MHz or something, the RAM would not be synchronized with my FSB anymore... which would result in an enourmous perfomance drain :)

And as there clearly is no RAM speed matching your '548 MHz FSB' you will probably be quite a bit slower than an ordinary but synched 533 MHz system. :nod:
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Venom on January 01, 2004, 07:33:28 pm
well, that sound correct to me

but i dont see any performance decreases?
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Bobboau on January 01, 2004, 07:34:53 pm
CPU: 42C/107F
MB:   24C/75F
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 01, 2004, 07:35:48 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Venom
well, that sound correct to me

but i dont see any performance decreases?


maybe your system never was synched at all?

what kind of RAM do you use?
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Martinus on January 01, 2004, 07:37:46 pm
[color=66ff00]Barton 2500:
CPU 49.50 C
SYS 30.00 C

It's not overclocked.
[/color]
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Venom on January 01, 2004, 07:38:22 pm
i'm using the 333Mhz RAM (in order with my FSB533 CPU)
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 01, 2004, 07:38:53 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]It's not overclocked.
[/color]


*hands a cookie to Maeglamor* :)
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 01, 2004, 07:40:27 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Venom
i'm using the 333Mhz RAM (in order with my FSB533 CPU)


that explains it. 2x 266MHz dual channeled would work better.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Venom on January 01, 2004, 07:43:33 pm
why should i use slower RAM?

i'm using 2x 333Mhz @ 512MB DDR RAM in the "Dual Channel" Mode or how its called

and how i can "sync" my System?
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 01, 2004, 07:46:33 pm
synchronising things tends to make them faster :)
especially when it comes to moving around lots of data really fast

a synched system will have same FSB and RAM speeds. In my case this is 800 MHz FSB as well as RAM speed.

In your case it would mean 533 MHz FSB and RAM speed. You can only get to 533 MHz RAM speed by dual channeling two 266 MHz ram sticks.
The 533-MHz FSB series of the p4 simply isn't made for ultra high memory access performance :blah:
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Venom on January 01, 2004, 07:48:15 pm
interesting

but please answer all my questions from the last post
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Post by: Lightspeed on January 01, 2004, 07:50:00 pm
i did.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Venom on January 01, 2004, 07:53:46 pm
change my Ram into slower one will increase my System Performance? very odd:wtf:

this is to high for me:sigh:
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Blue Lion on January 01, 2004, 07:54:41 pm
I have no idea what the temp is
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 01, 2004, 08:30:10 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Venom
change my Ram into slower one will increase my System Performance? very odd:wtf:

this is to high for me:sigh:


look... i'll do it with images

(http://www.penguinbomb.com/lightspeed/rams.jpg)

the green bars are the times your CPU sends the data to the RAM.

Your RAM will accept and work with data at the blue times.

In the upper part the RAM is faster than the CPU, thus the times where it will work on data are closer. The CPU cannot send data faster though, it will have to WAIT for the RAM clock cycle. The red areas represent the wait time.

In the lower picture the RAM is slower, the same speed as the CPU. you'll see that there are NO red times. The CPU can get every packet directly to the RAM, since whenever it is sending, the RAM is recieving.

Now if you look at a certain spot in time, youll notice that in the lower part, although the RAM is slower, you will have MORE packets that made it into your RAM --> You have a better performance :)

clear?
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: phreak on January 01, 2004, 08:33:36 pm
CPU: 102/39
Mobo: 91/33

P4 3.0 ghz. 800Mhz fsb
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Venom on January 01, 2004, 08:52:34 pm
yepp

Ok, i made what you've said, i've clocked my RAM to 266Mhz and my CPU back to 3066 Mhz FSB 533

but there's no Performance increasing!:(  i've benchmarked my Comp and played some Games, theres nothing better so i've set it up to the old settings

oh, and the "Performance" of NFS Underground and Armada2 was decreased and not increased

means: i leave it as it is

edit: sorry for my crappy english in this thread but in Germany its right now 3:57 AM and i'm really tired
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Taristin on January 01, 2004, 08:56:31 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Blue Lion
I have no idea what the temp is
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Admiral LSD on January 01, 2004, 10:36:36 pm
atm:

CPU: 43.5C
Case: 33.5C

Athlon XP 2400+ (2.0Ghz), 266Mhz FSB
non-overclocked

It's a little higher than I'd like, the hot days here still cause it to spike at about 51C but since my brothers machine gets similar temps but is 400Mhz slower, 51 is still in the safe area for Athlons and there's probably no way to get the temps down where I want them without moving to something like watercooling (which I must admit I am considering but the price is a little prohibitive and I'm still a bit iffy about having liquid running around inside my case) I'm prepared to live with it.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Gloriano on January 02, 2004, 04:25:05 am
P4 3.2 ghz

40 C
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Zeronet on January 02, 2004, 04:40:32 am
Quote
Originally posted by Blue Lion
I have no idea what the temp is
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on January 02, 2004, 05:10:01 am
40.0 C

But then I have only been on for about 5 minutes. By the end of the day it'll be beyond 60.
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Post by: karajorma on January 02, 2004, 05:34:26 am
44.0 C with my XP2100

No idea what the temp is on my other computer.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Odyssey on January 02, 2004, 08:47:26 am
[color=cc9900]Holy cow... 61C on the CPU, 44C in the case. That's at a room temperature of 17.7C.
Something's telling me this first-gen 1.4Ghz Athlon (i.e. not XP) is close to kicking the bucket. Time to underclock, methinks.[/color]
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Ashrak on January 02, 2004, 09:28:48 am
39 normal 45 gameing
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Martinus on January 02, 2004, 11:14:40 am
Quote
Originally posted by Lightspeed


*hands a cookie to Maeglamor* :)

[color=66ff00]*Munches cookie whilst pondering the fact that KotOR runs flawlessly on it as is*
[/color]
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Flipside on January 02, 2004, 02:29:48 pm
Odyssey, check your fans first, they tend to die a lot quicker than the CPU does ;)
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Rampage on January 02, 2004, 02:52:10 pm
AMD 2700 T-Bred

Underclocked temp 40 Centigrade.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Odyssey on January 02, 2004, 05:21:43 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Flipside
Odyssey, check your fans first, they tend to die a lot quicker than the CPU does ;)

[color=cc9900]Well, it's telling me that the CPU fan is running at 4655 rpm. How much I trust it is another matter.
Underclocked to 1Ghz now, only reduces it to 55C but never mind.[/color]
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: HotSnoJ on January 02, 2004, 08:02:26 pm
currently running at 53.5C
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Kosh on January 02, 2004, 08:02:55 pm
My RAM is out of synch in my desktop and I got a performance INCREASE.

Oh, and my desktop is a 1.7 GHz Celeron and it never gets above 50 C
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Taristin on January 02, 2004, 08:05:06 pm
...How do you know the temp? My PC only tells me on the bootup..
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: HotSnoJ on January 02, 2004, 08:08:21 pm
Well I use HWDoctor by Winbond, it came with my BIOSTAR mobo.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Lightspeed on January 02, 2004, 08:37:49 pm
Asus PC Probe :D

and looking in BIOS at bootup is the worst place to look since without an operating system the CPU will have no 'wait' - it will be at 100% all the time. When I wait in my BIOS screen I can watch my CPU temperature go steadily up to 48°C, then I boot up, open PC Probe and it's at 45° dropping back to 38°C in no time.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Taristin on January 02, 2004, 08:39:26 pm
Ok. I got MBMeter. It's 21 C inside the case, and the chip is 34 C.  And I've been running it for about 3.5 hours...
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Ghostavo on January 02, 2004, 08:59:52 pm
I don't know about my chip, but my hard drives are 43, 38 and 36 C respectively!!! :D
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Ypoknons on January 03, 2004, 09:14:45 am
Quote
Originally posted by Venom
Ok, i made what you've said, i've clocked my RAM to 266Mhz and my CPU back to 3066 Mhz FSB 533

but there's no Performance increasing!:(  i've benchmarked my Comp and played some Games, theres nothing better so i've set it up to the old settings

oh, and the "Performance" of NFS Underground and Armada2 was decreased and not increased [/B]


Are you on a 845PE chipset? If so then you can't dual channel and DDR333 speeds seem about right - I don't think he's on Granite Bay, Lightspeed.

As for me, Dell doesn't give a CPU temperature meter on the boards so that blows... My mom's AthlonXP 2100+ runs at 38 degrees, though.
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Post by: magatsu1 on January 03, 2004, 11:00:41 am
Quote
Originally posted by Odyssey
[color=cc9900]Holy cow... 61C on the CPU, 44C in the case. That's at a room temperature of 17.7C.
Something's telling me this first-gen 1.4Ghz Athlon (i.e. not XP) is close to kicking the bucket. Time to underclock, methinks.[/color]


Quote
Thunderbird Athlons (before AMD added the "XP" epithet) provided great performance, but by god they ran hot


PC Extreme, NOV '03.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Odyssey on January 03, 2004, 03:09:44 pm
[color=cc9900]Yeah, I know about the Thunderbird stuff, but I'm pretty sure this isn't a Thunderbird. It's one of its relatives. Probably suffers the same problems though. Never mind, it's been running fine at 60C for a good few years already, no big deal ^_^[/color]
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: mikhael on January 03, 2004, 04:23:35 pm
yeah baby, 65C for the CPU, and 35C for the case. Of course, 65C is a perfectly reasonable temp for an an AMD 2800, according to the AMD engineer I know.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Darkage on January 04, 2004, 03:42:46 pm
CPU: 59C/125F
MB: 36C/96F
Comp running for about 12 hours now.

Running a AMD Athlon at 1.2ghz

I can get it up to 1.8ghz

Maby i can try that now.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Taristin on January 04, 2004, 03:45:14 pm
Whenever I overclock, even slightly, windoze doesn't boot correctly. Maybe something to do with my FSB/memory relationship?
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Falcon on January 04, 2004, 03:48:55 pm
Currently heating up a bowl of chicken soup on it and a while ago I was making some popcorn. It may take longer once I add the vegetables. :D
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: kode on January 04, 2004, 03:53:19 pm
this comp is at 43C, the one I use at home (by god, I wanna go home) runs a few degrees lower.

the one at home is a lot better, as I would actually be able to play any of the games I've bought, but the only reason it's running that cool is because it's pretty much wide open with the psu outside the case so that air can actually get moved by the cpu fan.
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: karajorma on January 04, 2004, 04:17:06 pm
I use my second computer to warm my feet now that it's so cold. Still don't know the temp it's running at though :)
Title: One for the geeks... How hot is ur chip?
Post by: Falcon on January 04, 2004, 04:18:48 pm
Just found out that I out of chicken thougth about using elephants so I'll use a hare. :lol:
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Post by: Darkage on January 04, 2004, 05:02:36 pm
My other comps aint running atm because i am to lazy to lay the cable for the network:D


See?

(http://www.swooh.com/premium/Darkage/pics/router.jpg)


I should set it up soon. My mom always stores her stuff on it. yes she actualy knows how to use a FTP program or to logon using IE.
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Post by: Bobboau on January 04, 2004, 06:37:51 pm
I just added a blower fan to help cool my video/sound/tuner cards, I think the tuner is going to need another one, the blower is focused between the sound and vid cards