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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Culloden on June 05, 2001, 01:06:00 pm
An Anti-Matter Slaser.

That would be so cool! Anti-Matter destroyes anything it touches, atom for atom, particle for particle. So, if you could make a Laser based on Anti-Matter and make it slice accross the hull of a ship, it could literally cut a ship in half as easy as a knife through butter!
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Post by: QXMX on June 05, 2001, 01:44:00 pm
Not to mention obliterate everything within a 5 kilometer radius.

E=mc^2  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

The Helios Torpedo is an anti-matter warhead, and it's prohibitivly expensive to make.

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: aldo_14 on June 05, 2001, 03:41:00 pm
The question has to be, if antimatter destroys normal matter on contact, how the hell do you store/ collect it?

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Nico on June 05, 2001, 03:46:00 pm
collect: gravity
store: vacuum
well just my idea...
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Post by: The Claw on June 05, 2001, 04:25:00 pm
Well... actually both gravity and vacuum for both, but that's just being picky  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Shrike on June 05, 2001, 04:58:00 pm
Create:  Particle accelerator
Storage: Magnetic fields
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Post by: wEvil on June 05, 2001, 05:35:00 pm
you can create antimatter when:

you accelerate a particle into a state where it has more energy than mass.

SO say you had an electron that weighs 2,000,000,000 electron volts (the amount of charge an electron has)

you have to give it that much energy, then collide it with something heavy like uranium or gold or lead.

Among the spray of weird very short lived particles will be some positrons and other anti-particles that could possibly be collected and cooled into antihydrogen.

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Snipes on June 05, 2001, 07:08:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Create:  Particle accelerator
Storage: Magnetic fields

Particle accelerator?! uh-oh...

They built one of those in Brookhaven labs here on long Island... Damn hem all to hell if they destroy earth!!!
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Post by: KillMeNow on June 05, 2001, 08:54:00 pm
they have made anit hydrogren atoms alrady not many though
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Post by: QXMX on June 05, 2001, 09:05:00 pm
Certainly not enough for a Helios  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Martinus on June 05, 2001, 09:54:00 pm
Figuring that the ones that they have made have a lifetime of nanoseconds you'd better be quick if you want to catch them  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: aldo_14 on June 06, 2001, 06:48:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Maeglamor:
Figuring that the ones that they have made have a lifetime of nanoseconds you'd better be quick if you want to catch them   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Maybe they're generated upon impact?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/spineyes.gif)

Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Culloden on June 06, 2001, 12:57:00 pm
How would firing the beam of anti-matter directly from the particle accelerator work?
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Post by: morris13 on June 06, 2001, 01:17:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Culloden:
How would firing the beam of anti-matter directly from the particle accelerator work?

Exactly the same as a normal particle accellerator does. Anti-particles still have a charge and you can accellerate them using magnetic fields exactly the same way. Its just storing the anti-matter particles properly and maintaing a good supply thats the trick.
Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Culloden on June 06, 2001, 01:21:00 pm
Thats what I'm talking about. Firing the anti-matter as soon as it's created in the accelerator. That way, there's no need for storage.
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Post by: QXMX on June 06, 2001, 01:44:00 pm
I don't know how much would be produced in the beam, but it'd be damn dangerous.  If I kilogram of Antimatter came in contact with 1 kg of matter, it would produce about 90 PetaJoules of energy.  I think that's roughly 1000-100,000 H bombs.  Wouldn't want that stuff touchin nothin  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Jabu on June 06, 2001, 05:48:00 pm
So you couldn't have a beam of pure antimatter, it'd wipe out that part of the universe. Unless it's something like a particle or two thick, which would be pretty crap for gameplay, as you can't see it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: phreak on June 06, 2001, 07:30:00 pm
To make 1 pound (454g) of antimatter would bankrupt the earth.
Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Martinus on June 06, 2001, 08:33:00 pm
To mess with 1 pound (454g) of antimatter would put a sizeable hole in the earth.

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Shrike on June 06, 2001, 09:33:00 pm
Nah, 1 kg of AM releases about 20 MT of explosive power (I think) - although it annihilates with 1 kg of matter as well, so you actually get 40-odd MT of bang.

And firing it straight from the accelerator is just....inneficient.  You can store it just fine with magnetic fields.

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: QXMX on June 06, 2001, 09:40:00 pm
Just workin it out  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

E=mc^2  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Although I don't know if that applies to matter-antimatter anihiliations tho.

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Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Starwing on June 07, 2001, 12:45:00 am
Of course does it. The Einstein equation gives the amount of energy that is equal to a certain amount of matter.
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Post by: Fattony on June 07, 2001, 08:05:00 am
The blast power of a nuke is the sum of all the particles bonds splitting. Anti-matter supposedly annihilates the atoms themselves. Now if the bonds can blow up Japan, then the particles could ****  everything.

Electron's colliding with Gold makes antimatter? Yeah right. Woman on wedding night gets electrocuted and Kaboooooooooooom. There goes Hawaii.

Electrons smashing into at near light speed(super-colliding) maybe?

Anti-matter is another example of a viable technology which hasn't been used due to testing and safety procedures and guidelines.
Title: How about this for a weapon!
Post by: Bushwacker on June 10, 2001, 04:33:00 pm
And about the time length they've been able to store it:  scientists have managed to keep about 2 micrograms of the stuff in a supercooled magnetic coil for about five seconds before it just "vanishes" (for lack of a better word).  The scientists think that stray hydrogen isotopes don't get pumped out when they go to put the vacuum in the magnetic tubing, and the antiparticles collide with the isotopes and disappear.