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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: TopAce on January 10, 2004, 02:33:13 pm
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I was bored, and something came to my mind: What if I model something simple, not related to FS? What would it be? Ahhh ... a Sith lightsaber.
Here is what I did:
(http://www.swooh.com/peon/TopAce/Sithsaber.jpg)
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nice now push the start button and it will start to glow :D
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and add textures! ;)
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I cannot make nice textures. I just modelled it, I have no remote plans with it. By hobby.
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What exactly makes this a Sith lightsaber?
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Just have a look at it.
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I did. I don't understand why you call it a Sith lightsaber.
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Because "Sith" is a fun word, and sounds sorta cool when you say it out loud. Sithhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
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Originally posted by mikhael
I don't understand why you call it a Sith lightsaber
Canon source (http://www.starwars.com/databank/technology/sithlightsaber/index.html)
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So um. Does that mean that Dooku's saber is not a Sith Saber? Or that Vader's isn't a Sith Saber? Can you show me a canon source where it says they are not? I mean, after all, only double bladed sabers are Sith sabers, then evidently we either have a discrepancy in canon sources or we have a misunderstanding about what the canon sources or saying.
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The one with double-blade is a Sith lightsaber. The single bladed variant is a simple lightsaber. Single sabers are used by all Jedi, even by Siths. Just the standard weapon of the Sith is the lightsaber this topic is about.
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So you're saying neither Vader NOR Dooku use a standard saber and that all other Sith who do use a standard Sith Saber use a double bladed saber.
All this despite the fact that we've only seen ONE double bladed saber and that MOST Sith use a single blade?
I think you're interpretting stuff incorrectly. But hey, if you want to, that's your business.
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Dooku and Vader were using a standard saber, as I told. Before(and during) the Sith wars, Sith lightsabers were widely used.
Dooku and Vader were not using a Sith lightsaber. They had a standard, single saber.
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So, that means that KOTOR is wrong? :p
coz last ( well only ) sith I saw were: one with standard saber, one with two sabers, and one with a standard saber, and one of those short light sabers ( a light knife? :p ).
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Does it matter? At all? Even in some bizarre alternate dimension where there are such things as Sith and lightsabers?
I mean, pedantry where the subject might actually have some bearing on the imaginary universe, fine, that's your fanboy bag, but honestly, even the Star Wars characters wouldn't give a **** what you call your phallic energy weapon of overhypedness.
And the saber itself? Um, take the ring bits off of the end and I could swear I saw that exact thing in a porn movie, but there's nothing outright wrong with it. Mostly because there's not much there at all- it's an untextured tapered cylinder with a few thingies on it. Not even that many thingies. It could honestly be anything, and nobody'd really be able to argue that.
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Does it matter? No, I was just *****ing :D
I'm not a big Starwars fan to be honest ( but at least I like it, unlike some other famous scifi universe ).
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Mad Max could take 'em.
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DoubleBladed lightsabers are called Lightstaffs.
IIRC, Exar Kun, before he turned Sith, made and used a Lightstaff. It was extremely rare that Sith ever used a Lightstaff, because it was so hard to manage and wield. Only the best could.
If you think about it, there really is no reason to even use a Lightstaff. Just using two separate lightsabers, one in each hand, would be a lot easier to use and allows a lot more freedom. A lightstaff is a stupid way to restrict freedom of movement.
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I had almost forgotten about that movie until you mentioned it! Why must it always come back to PORN? Oh shiest, that was my inner voice right? :nervous: Nevermind...
BTW does that give all the good jedi a bad rep if they like to run around wielding the so called "Sith Lightsaber"? Last time I remembered it was simply called a "dual-lightsaber"...
OPTIONS people, it's all about options... And I Choose to WIN!
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where do you see porn?
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Lockage in 5... 4... 3...
Stryke, I don't think that is any better :p
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Well, it was the best I could find. It involves a surprising amount of effort to get a good porn Google image search that doesn't involve kittens or something similar.
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Oh god, I wish I'd never read that :shaking:
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Misplaced names aside, it looks like a double-sided hose nosel and not so much a lightsaber.
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What would you do with a double-ended hose nozzle?
I mean, besides have sex with it, we all know you'd do that already, what?
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water two gardens at once?
....... how predictable of you. :doubt:
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I had to say it or you would, and then this thread would never get out of the gutter. Gutter's no fun here, nobody's got their heart in being pervy here. That, or nobody here ever touched a girl before. I make no assumptions. (like hell I don't)
Anyway. You couldn't water two gardens at once, there's nowhere for the hose to plug into.
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Meh.
It's a magical hose. You have sex with one and and water comes out the other.
I need sleep.
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Terribly impractical, 'specially if you're a guy.
Maybe it's a kinda wierd pen. One with no nib. Or maybe it's retractable, and has two, in which case you could write on a paper and write on another, somewhat elevated, paper at the same time.
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well, no. its a bicycle handle.
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Dammit, that actually works.
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Originally posted by Nico
So, that means that KOTOR is wrong? :p
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Yes. It isn't using canon source. I don't know the game itself, but as far as I know, you can use a Sith lightsaber there(= Saberstaff), just to make the game more exciting and make the game more sellable. Nothing made by LucasArts is canon, except for the two Encyclopedies they released(Behind the Magic, Insider's Guide). Just thnik of Rebel Assault 1 and X-wing(1992). In both games the Death Star was destroyed by NOT Luke. They both had different pre-story which led to the Battle of Yavin. Think of Rebel Assault II and Balance of Power: They both had one-one Super Star Destroyers. I hope you all know that before the Battle of Endor, mrely one Super Star Destroyer was at the service of the Empire. Then think of the stories of the other LucasArts games as well. You will slowly realize they completely contradict each other(Chandrilla at JKA, and at Rogue Squadron is a good example here) None of them are canon, LucasArts tend to do major changes in the universe just to make their games look the best they would like it.
The saddest is that some of them were 'made' canon by LucasArts, like Jedi Knight I by mentioning it in BTM. Those are only advertisements.
In my eyes, nothing by LucasArts is canon except for some areas of Behind the Magic and Insider's giude. To be honest, I don't have Insider's guide, so I cannot say how many LucasArts trashes it contains.
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Originally posted by TopAce
I hope you all know that before the Battle of Endor, mrely one Super Star Destroyer was at the service of the Empire
nah, since Solo says otherwise as they flyby. But heh.
To me, Lucasart is canon, since Lucas owns it ( heh ), and contardictions, well, that's nothing new, there's contradictory stuff in about every fictional universe, coz you just can't remember everything.
If Lucas didn't consider Jedi Knight official, and if they said otherwise, they'd have sued their ( well, his own ) ass.
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Give up on "canon". Even George Lucas can't decide on what's canon. Are the original-original-original movies canon? If so why were some things changed during the first run of Star Wars? If the re-released originals (not the special editions) were canonical, why were the special editions changed (in some cases signifigantly)? Are the special editions canonical? If the Special Editions are canonical, why did some stuff get changed for Ep1? Is that now canonical and eps4-6 not?
Sorry. There is no canon. And besides, you will not find anywhere, any source that says double-bladed sabers are sith only. You're making an assumption that its a Sith only weapon because the the entry for the lightsaber carried by a Sith uses Maul's double-bladed saber and not Dooku's.
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Originally posted by DragonClaw
DoubleBladed lightsabers are called Lightstaffs.
IIRC, Exar Kun, before he turned Sith, made and used a Lightstaff. It was extremely rare that Sith ever used a Lightstaff, because it was so hard to manage and wield. Only the best could.
So, *before* Exar went sith he used a "Lightstaff", right? Wouldn't that mean that a light Jedi used the double light saber/sith saber/lightstaff/dual saber/whatever the heck you want to call it at one point? If this is the case, then doesn't that make KOTOR more... uh... kinda almost canon? I'm just speculating, not defending. I've lost all respect for Lucas anyway.
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As chronicled by Common Sense + KOTOR
Why would one particular lightsaber fighting style be exclusive to the Sith? The arguement that it's only for Sith is like saying using two lightsabers is only for Jedi because we've only seen a Jedi do it... (In the movies that is.)
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I haven't a clue what could I say. I belive that LucasArts products give a Sith lightsaber to the hands of the Jedi simply to produce something that temptates people to buy their games.
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However, TopAce, LucasArts isn't the only StarWars outlet that shows double bladed lightsabers (lightstaffs) in use by Jedi. As previously pointed out, in Exar Kun's day, Jedi used Lightstaffs. This is in the Star Wars comic books. There's a scene near the beginning where Exar Kun is training with two other Jedi under the guidance of a Jedi Master. That Jedi Master is holding a lightstaff. This fight is also the first time you ever see any Star Wars character use two lightsabers simultaneously (Exar Kun gets angry at one of the other jedi, disarms her, and uses her saber and his own against the other student. The master intervenes).
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Originally posted by TopAce
I haven't a clue what could I say. I belive that LucasArts products give a Sith lightsaber to the hands of the Jedi simply to produce something that temptates people to buy their games.
I really doubt being able to use a double lightsaber as a lightsider would be cause enough for anyone to buy a game. Besides, like I said, why can't they do it just because they want to? Make things different.
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Besides, there's more light-weapons than just lightsabers. If I remember rightly, there are characters with light spears and in one case a pair of light-tonfa. The lightsaber is the most iconic form of the jedi (and hence the sith, since they're essentially the same thing, if you take your fictional history back far enough) weaponry.
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Light-tonfa? :wtf:
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EDIT- http://www.karatedepot.com/tonfa.html
(like an American police baton)
nunchuks? (SP?)
Now there's a bizarre idea.........:)
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Indeed. Aldo got it. Lighttonfa. Absolutely the best "light" weapon ever. :)
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Riight.. must have been one of those cooky mangas that did it.
:p
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It was one of the Dark Horse comics, actually. The same ones that introduced the Masassi and Exar Kun, and half the stuff that's accepted as canon by most fans nowadays.
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Fair enough.
Light-Billyclubs still sound silly to me though. It'd be like having a lightmachette or a light-bat. :p
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Well really, what's a lightsaber but a lightbat? (makes me think of the incredibly well written "Mage") Heck, a light-machete is just a differently shaped lightsaber. As I recall the light-tonfa were just very short lightsabers with a cross bar on the hilt. The character that carried them carried them concealed up her sleeves.
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You know.. it's got the knob at the end and the tape on the handle and then the blade comes out and gets fatter at the top. The the Sith pitcher pulls out his light-ball...
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
Riight.. must have been one of those cooky mangas that did it.
:p
The "cooky mangas" did light ( laser ) weapons way before starwars even existed :doubt:.
On a side note, why a normal people could not use a light saber? They use the force for batteries? :p
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Normal non-force sensitive people CAN use ligthsabers, if they grab one from a Jedi/Sith/Close friend :). It is another pie that he/she won't be able to survive in a battle for long. :D
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Han Solos uses a lightsaber in Empire Strikes Back to cut open a tauntaun.... i think the idea was that you need the foresight & control of The Force just to make sure you don't screw up and cut yourself with it whilst swinging.
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Indeed, but he wouldn't be able to reflect a single shot with it and survive a combat with stormtroopers.
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Originally posted by Nico
The "cooky mangas" did light ( laser ) weapons way before starwars even existed :doubt:.
On a side note, why a normal people could not use a light saber? They use the force for batteries? :p
We're talking about Star Wars comics/manga, not lifting things from StarWars or originating things in StarWars from non-StarWars stories.